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Buying Line Prophet 98. Length?

post #1 of 17
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Wondering if anyone can offer suggestions. I'm buying some 2012 Prophet 98s. Choosing between 186 and 179. I'm 5'10" to 5'11", 185 lbs, level 8 skier. Pretty aggressve skier. Like skiing trees at Mt. Bachelor and Mt. Hood Meadows. Will ski bumps where available. Pretty turny style and I'm currently skiing a Fischer Watea 84 in a 176. Those have been fun, but they're super super turny and feel short. Always wished I'd gone longer on those. I hear the Prophets skis short. Will i be happy on a 186, or will they fee too long? Thanks fo your thoughts.

post #2 of 17

Hey, welcome to EpicSki!

 

I think it depends on your primary goal! I don`t have any experience with the P98, just P90. But you can ride both sizes I guess. 179 would be better for bumps, but probably the 186 would be better for anything else, more stable. They also measure short, I know that the 172cm measures 170cm tip to tail with a straight tape pull, which is kinda usual for Line skis. You will probably have something like 176cm and 183cm tip to tail for the sizes you are interested in.

 

The Prophet also have a short turn radius so shouldn`t be a problem for trees riding the longer one (18.9m on the 186cm). Most of the recommendations I`ve seen here on Epicski say to go longer for the P98 for more stability and grip. 

post #3 of 17

PDXTED -

 

I'm 5'9.5" and 180#, upper advanced skier myself.  I've demoed the Prophet 98 (P98) in a 179cm at both Mt Hood Meadows and Crystal Mt.  Very nice ski by the way - one of my favorite 98mm waisted skis.

 

It seems like one would go long with a ski for stability and floatation.  Well, I've skied the P98 in crud at both Meadows and Crystal and thought the 179cm was plenty stable.  Haven't skied it in powder (none available when demoed).

 

While I didn't ski the P98 in bumps, it seems like the bumps at Meadows are spaced far enough a part that you could ski a 186cm ski in them with out a lot of problems.  However, I would much rather have a shorter ski for skiing bumps (like the 172cm P98!).

 

Seems like the only reason you would want the P98 in a 186cm is for more floatation.  However, the P98 is 98mm in the waist compared to your Watea's 84mm, so will the larger waist width give you the extra floatation that you need?

 

I'm debating getting a pair of P98 for myself.  If I do, there's no doubt I'd go with the 179cm.  Hope this helps.

 

Dave

post #4 of 17

I chimed in on this question once before here: http://www.epicski.com/t/107912/line-prophet-98-length-suggestions#post_1401176

 

Since then, I got a chance to ski the 98 in a 179 (I'm 6' 200# advanced skier) and felt very comfortable on it.  I didn't see a need to step up to the 186.

post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the feedback. Seems ike the 179 is comfortable for everyone. I guess it doesn't ski that short. 

post #6 of 17

The P-98 is a very different feeling ski than either the P-90 or P-100 both of which had a lot of sidecut in front and hence were pretty hooky feeling to me. I owned a P-100 and had to get a 186. Honestly didn't like the 179 much. The P98 in 179 is more stable that either of the others. Personally, I'd get the 186 but I'm heavier and just prefer this category of ski in longer sizes. I think you could go either way and certainly for the upper half of Batch.....the 186 would be a better call. However for the trees on the lower mtn, the 179 would get the nod.

 

SJ

post #7 of 17

Ted,

Since I am 5'10" and 155 lbs, I am on the lighter side.

So, I ski the P98 in 172. And I love them.

Great crud ski. Stable underfoot. Makes any size turn.

I would think 179 would be enough ski.

post #8 of 17

For your level and style. I would suggest the 186.  After a full season on the P100's at 172 (as mentioned skis a little differently than the 98, but close enough to make a reasonable judgement here I gather) I would have gone the 179's but they were out of stock when I ordered.  I don't think you'd have a bit of trouble driving the 186's at all.

post #9 of 17

Hi Guys,

 

I really need quick advice. I'm about to order my Prophet 98 tonight but haven't decided the length yet.

 

I'm 179 cm, 68kg (150lbs), I have always been skiing on rentals and then around 168-172 cm.

 

I mostly ski on resort and "side-mountain". What would you suggest the 172cm or 178cm?

 

Thanks!

 
post #10 of 17

178 or 182.  Don't go shorter.
 

post #11 of 17
go 179cm at least. I'm 165cm / 150 lbs and I ski the 172 and wouldn't want it any shorter!
post #12 of 17

I'm 6-1 (185cm), 175 lbs. (79.5 kg) and ski the 179cm. It feels super stable to me, yet it is very nimble when I want it to be. I haven't skied the 186cm, so can't comment on it.

post #13 of 17

Thanks for your advice. I went 179cm.

 
post #14 of 17

I'm pretty sure you'll love the skis.  Be sure to let us know after a few days on!

post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by horte View Post

Thanks for your advice. I went 179cm.

 

I think that was a good call. It'll give you a little more edge grip and control for hauling butt, especially on harder snow. The early-rise rocker will make them turn easy. Have fun on them!

post #16 of 17

Recently moved to Seattle and just getting back into skiing after a 10 year hiatus. I was an advanced skier. 6'01" 185lbs. Expect to pick things up reasonably quickly again and in as good if not better shape now than back then. I have thought about just renting for a season, but honestly I'd rather work one pair all year than try to build back skills while swapping sticks every weekend. Looking at picking up a pair of last year's Prophet 98s. Wondering what length to get... 179 or 186.  Last pair I owned were '95 vintage Rossi 7SK's in 201cm. Obviously reading this forum thread I think 179 would be fine, especially given the work I'll need to do to get the skills back, but on the other hand having come from "old school" long planks I've also been told the 186 will turn crazy easy compared to what I'm used to and wouldn't feel short either. Thoughts? Thanks!

post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by Griff View Post

Recently moved to Seattle and just getting back into skiing after a 10 year hiatus. I was an advanced skier. 6'01" 185lbs. Expect to pick things up reasonably quickly again and in as good if not better shape now than back then. I have thought about just renting for a season, but honestly I'd rather work one pair all year than try to build back skills while swapping sticks every weekend. Looking at picking up a pair of last year's Prophet 98s. Wondering what length to get... 179 or 186.  Last pair I owned were '95 vintage Rossi 7SK's in 201cm. Obviously reading this forum thread I think 179 would be fine, especially given the work I'll need to do to get the skills back, but on the other hand having come from "old school" long planks I've also been told the 186 will turn crazy easy compared to what I'm used to and wouldn't feel short either. Thoughts? Thanks!

I think both would be fine, I kinda prefer longer but really depends on what you would like better, it's hard for you to choose if you haven't been on any of the new shaped skis! As always 179 would be more nimble, fast and better for tight spots... 186 should be a little bit more stable! I was the same when I bought mine between 165 and 172 and ended up with 172, I'm 5'5" / 150 intermediate skier. Be aware that they ski short and also measure short they should all be around 2 cm shorter tip to tail than the stated length.

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