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Purchasing new skis, Line Prophet 90 vs Solomon Lord vs Nordica Steadfast

Poll Results: Which Ski?

 
  • 33% (5)
    Line Prophet 90
  • 6% (1)
    Solomon Lord
  • 60% (9)
    Nordica Steadfast
15 Total Votes  
post #1 of 14
8/11/12 at 5:55am
Thread Starter 

Hey there guys,

 

I'm replacing a pair of 2004 Solomon Scramblers 165cm for a new set of skis this year. I'm greatly improved to an intermediate to advanced ski level and have been looking at the Line Prophet 90 (2012), Solomon Lord, and Nordica Steadfast. I've heard absolutely amazing things about the Prophet, but have also heard that the top sheet is very thin and gets damaged insanely easily. My hesitation is that I want these to last for as long as my 2004 skis have. All of the reviews about the top sheet on the prophets being thin have been from the 2011 and earlier models. Anyone have any experience with the 2012 since they were redesigned? Also any feedback on the other to contenders? I'm 5'11, 155lbs and looking for a great all mountain ski. I'm going to be skiing all over the U.S.

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post #2 of 14
8/11/12 at 6:28am

Top skin on any of these are fine under normal conditions (any top skin will suffer under abuse). All of these skis are a great option, value wise the, the '12 Steadfast would be the way to go, the '13 Prophet 90 is a better ski than the out going model as in the '13 Rocker90 from Salomon over the Lord. If you plan on keeping the skis another 8 years, it is worth the difference in these two models. I would also suggest jumping up into the 170+cm range for your size. 

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post #3 of 14
9/15/12 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Top skin on any of these are fine under normal conditions (any top skin will suffer under abuse). All of these skis are a great option, value wise the, the '12 Steadfast would be the way to go, the '13 Prophet 90 is a better ski than the out going model as in the '13 Rocker90 from Salomon over the Lord. If you plan on keeping the skis another 8 years, it is worth the difference in these two models. I would also suggest jumping up into the 170+cm range for your size. 

Philpug,

 

I thought the only changes to the 2012/13 Prophet 90 over the 2011/2012 Prophet 90 was the graphics, no?

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post #4 of 14
9/15/12 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by k00k View Post

Philpug,

 

I thought the only changes to the 2012/13 Prophet 90 over the 2011/2012 Prophet 90 was the graphics, no?

I believe dimensions are the same, but the material used on the top sheet material/finishing seems a little different if you compare both side by side. Phil might have more details, but I think that`s what he was talking about

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post #5 of 14
9/15/12 at 9:24pm

I demoed the Prophet 90 and Steadfast last season and bought the Steadfast.  To me they seemed lighter and quicker than the Prophet.  When I tried them both in the same narrow chute, the Prophet tended to be slow to release in the short quick turns, but the Steadfast reacted immediately.  

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post #6 of 14
10/11/12 at 3:32pm

please, I need the steadfast size if I measure 173 cms (sorry, i talk you from spain)

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post #7 of 14
10/11/12 at 3:41pm
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Top skin on any of these are fine under normal conditions (any top skin will suffer under abuse). All of these skis are a great option, value wise the, the '12 Steadfast would be the way to go, the '13 Prophet 90 is a better ski than the out going model as in the '13 Rocker90 from Salomon over the Lord. If you plan on keeping the skis another 8 years, it is worth the difference in these two models. I would also suggest jumping up into the 170+cm range for your size. 

Philpug

 

I am 173 cms and I would like to know the size of the steadfast for me. Thank you

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post #8 of 14
10/11/12 at 3:44pm

intermediate to advanced ski level

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post #9 of 14
10/11/12 at 6:34pm

Anybody tried the steadfast and the Hell and back?

I'm presently hesitating between buying a pair of Hell and back or a pair of Steadfast ( both 2012). And at this moment, I'm thinking of putting some guardian bindings on them to slowly explore another kind of skiing ...

I looked at both and they dont seem to different when you put them side to side. The Steadfast is a little slimmer and seem stiffer...

I ski mostly in the east ( Jay, Tremblant,...) and like to ski mostly trees, moguls and steeps (I'm 6'; 210 pounds).

Any opinions?

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post #10 of 14
10/11/12 at 7:56pm

I have skied (really like) both and owned a Helen last year. Given your locale, I 'd for sure suggest the Steadfast for inbounds use. The possibility of B/C use might trend toward the Helen a bit but it really depends upon the anticipated snow depths that you expect to see. For under 12" of snow, the Steadfast is fine.

 

SJ
 

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post #11 of 14
10/11/12 at 10:23pm

Well I don't own the Prophet 90 but own the 2010 Prophet 100 and owned the 2012 Nordica Steadfast.  I have since sold the Steadfast and still own the Prophet so that should tell you where I stand on this.  Unfortunately the Prophet 100 might be a completely different ski than the Prophet 90 but if they are simlar I'd take the Prophet all day long over the Steadfast.  I just felt the Steadfast was way too unstable at speed and thought the Prophet was not only way more stable but also a quicker turning ski.  I really love the Line ski's because I also own a Line Influence 105 which at this point is my favorite alltime ski but I am not adverse to Nordica products because I own a pair of Nordica Speed Machine ski boots that are my favorite boots I have used.  I just didn't gel with the Steadfast at all.  I personally think the weight reduction that Nordica brags about on these skis takes away too much stability and they just don't hold an edge well.  Take all this with a grain of salt because skiing is such a personal experience that you might look at it in a totally different light.

 

Chuck

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post #12 of 14
10/12/12 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by procos View Post

 Take all this with a grain of salt because skiing is such a personal experience that you might look at it in a totally different light.

 

Chuck

Amen Chuck!

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post #13 of 14
10/13/12 at 8:58am
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Originally Posted by fer66 View Post

please, I need the steadfast size if I measure 173 cms (sorry, i talk you from spain)

 

You are about my height and I ski the 170s.

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post #14 of 14
10/14/12 at 8:15am

abski84,  Obviously I am biased towards the Steadfast (I work for Nordica) so take everything I say knowing that, but if you have any questions that I can help you with, let me know.

 

Mogsie,  You really can't go wrong with either the Steadfast or Hell & Back. The only difference between the 2 skis are the waist width (90 and 98)  My personal pair of skis are the Steadfast and I ski here on the East Coast in Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire.  I rarely find myself needing the extra width, but you ski at Jay so you may need it more often than not.  I think the Steadfast will be quicker in the trees and on the groomers, but if you plan on skiing a lot of crud and deeper snow, go with the wider Hell & Back.  Let me know if you have any questions.

 

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