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Hi All,

 

I am looking to replace my backcountry set up and am not sure what skis to purchase. 

 

I am 32, a level 7 skier, 162cm, and 145 lbs. I'm athletic but a little nervous on my skis after an ACL injury a few years ago so I am hesitant to get skis that are too long, but I don't want to have to replace this purchase after a season or two if they soften up or if I get better at skiing. I ski on the west coast of BC and split my time between backcountry and in-bounds at Whistler/Blackcomb. I am looking for a ski to be my "quiver of one".

 

I haven't had proper touring skis before - I've been touring on 158cm Line Prophets Flite and I find them too soft (with fritschi freerides and garmont boots). They were OK at the resort when they were new, and they got my from a level 5 to a level 7 skier, but now they are too light for me, I think (they chatter on crud and inbounds, they are OK in soft snow still - maybe too soft for me?).

 

The K2 Gotback looks like a fun ski - but I am not sure between 160 cm or 167 cm. Has anyone my ability and size tried them? Any other recommendations for a ski that can do it all? :) I have never tried a women's-specific ski and wondering what the female skiers think of them, or if there are some other skis they enjoy. My plan for these skis is a few 4-5 day ski traverses, a few weekend tours, lots of day-tours, and lots of days skiing at the resort. 

 

Thanks so much biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by westcoastskiar View Post

Hi All,

 

I am looking to replace my backcountry set up and am not sure what skis to purchase. 

 

I am 32, a level 7 skier, 162cm, and 145 lbs. I'm athletic but a little nervous on my skis after an ACL injury a few years ago so I am hesitant to get skis that are too long, but I don't want to have to replace this purchase after a season or two if they soften up or if I get better at skiing. I ski on the west coast of BC and split my time between backcountry and in-bounds at Whistler/Blackcomb. I am looking for a ski to be my "quiver of one".

 

I haven't had proper touring skis before - I've been touring on 158cm Line Prophets Flite and I find them too soft (with fritschi freerides and garmont boots). They were OK at the resort when they were new, and they got my from a level 5 to a level 7 skier, but now they are too light for me, I think (they chatter on crud and inbounds, they are OK in soft snow still - maybe too soft for me?).

 

The K2 Gotback looks like a fun ski - but I am not sure between 160 cm or 167 cm. Has anyone my ability and size tried them? Any other recommendations for a ski that can do it all? :) I have never tried a women's-specific ski and wondering what the female skiers think of them, or if there are some other skis they enjoy. My plan for these skis is a few 4-5 day ski traverses, a few weekend tours, lots of day-tours, and lots of days skiing at the resort. 

 

Thanks so much biggrin.gif

 

First off, welcome to Epic. Out of curiosity, you say that you are a level seven and split your time between backcountry and in-bounds. It is really going to depend what you look for in a quiver of one. When you are in-bounds do you tend to stay on groomed pistes or more time in the trees/ungroomed/moguls? The width of the ski will vary depending on what you are looking for. The more time you are going to be on groomed trails the closer I would stay to the 60-80 mm mid-width range. The more time you spend off the groomed the closer you will want to get to the 90-100 mm mid-width.

 

Also when you say you haven't had a proper touring ski before does that mean you are looking for one?  If so that will effect your binding choice as well. Having a prior ACL injury, many users on here have had good experiences with Knee Bindings which claim to reduce the risk of knee injuries particularly with individuals who have been injured previously. (I can not personally speak either for their effectiveness) However, they are also somewhat heavy so if you are looking for a touring setup you may want to look for a lighter binding. 

 

Just some basic information to think of and a few questions to answer so someone that knows much better than I can give you a more specific answer. 

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Originally Posted by westcoastskiar View Post

Hi All,

 

I am looking to replace my backcountry set up and am not sure what skis to purchase. 

 

I am 32, a level 7 skier, 162cm, and 145 lbs. I'm athletic but a little nervous on my skis after an ACL injury a few years ago so I am hesitant to get skis that are too long, but I don't want to have to replace this purchase after a season or two if they soften up or if I get better at skiing. I ski on the west coast of BC and split my time between backcountry and in-bounds at Whistler/Blackcomb. I am looking for a ski to be my "quiver of one".

 

I haven't had proper touring skis before - I've been touring on 158cm Line Prophets Flite and I find them too soft (with fritschi freerides and garmont boots). They were OK at the resort when they were new, and they got my from a level 5 to a level 7 skier, but now they are too light for me, I think (they chatter on crud and inbounds, they are OK in soft snow still - maybe too soft for me?).

 

The K2 Gotback looks like a fun ski - but I am not sure between 160 cm or 167 cm. Has anyone my ability and size tried them? Any other recommendations for a ski that can do it all? :) I have never tried a women's-specific ski and wondering what the female skiers think of them, or if there are some other skis they enjoy. My plan for these skis is a few 4-5 day ski traverses, a few weekend tours, lots of day-tours, and lots of days skiing at the resort. 

 

Thanks so much biggrin.gif

 

"Real" touring skis tend to be even lighter and less substantial than your lines (with a few exceptions). So you would want to look at an alpine ski for better crud performance. Don't know much about the Gotbacks tho.

 

Chattering skis usually indicates a technique issue. So you may want to take some instruction. Not sure that a level 7 skier will pwn heavy crud no matter what skis they are on.

 

Also, Fritschi Frerides are flexy and not really ideal for resort use if that typically includes a good dose of heavy crud and hard pack groomers. Marker barons would be much better performing for a step in AT binding. 

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I have tried the Gotbacks and have a friend who is on her second pair.

 

I found them chattery and not stable enough in short lengths for my taste. I'm afraid it's a matter of preference.

 

I ski the Atomic Century in a 166 (i'm also 162 cm and am 117lbs.) Like the Gotback, the Century is an alpine ski made to cross over to touring with notches for skins, etc. It's 100 at the waist but it is good all around too, with decent grip on firm snow and good in the bumps for such a wide ski. You can see a review of it in this month's Powder magazine. (it's so versatile they put it in the all-mountain category.)

 

It's the first ever female specific ski I've had, having never liked them before. But women's skis have come a very long way in the last 5 years.

 

I prefer the Atomic, but my friend the K2, so if you can try them first, I recommend you do that.

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I ski the Atomic Century in a 166 (i'm also 162 cm and am 117lbs.) Like the Gotback, the Century is an alpine ski made to cross over to touring with notches for skins, etc. It's 100 at the waist but it is good all around too, with decent grip on firm snow and good in the bumps for such a wide ski. You can see a review of it in this month's Powder magazine. (it's so versatile they put it in the all-mountain category.)

 

It's the first ever female specific ski I've had, having never liked them before. But women's skis have come a very long way in the last 5 years.

 

I prefer the Atomic, but my friend the K2, so if you can try them first, I recommend you do that.

 

My girlfriend is selling her like new atomic Elysians (the 95 waisted version of the century). It can come with skins and barons if you want them. I feel like they would work great for you. PM me if you'd like more info.

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Thanks tylrwnzl - I am mostly off-groomers when I ski in-bounds and I want to try something with a little more float (90-100mm). My current skis are 88mm underfoot. Those knee bindings look interesting - I think if I end up with two set ups (one for backcountry and one for in-bounds) I will try them. For now, I have Fritschi backcountry bindings which I use in and out of bounds.

 

I'm mostly worried that 167 will be too much ski for me - although I used to ski 166 sirens (albeitly nervously). It sounds like the early rise of the Gotbacks would make them ski a bit shorter which would be good for me. I am not sure if I can get away with a 160cm ski based on my weight (145 lbs). 

 

Thanks for your reply also, Tromano - I will look into a lesson for the chattering skis - anything will help - and into Marker Barons. I don't know anyone who tours on them and haven't heard of them before...

 

Thanks for your input too Mom - I will check out the Atomic Century's. I hadn't heard of them before either. Hopefully I can find some of these skis in my length(s) to demo them. I found some 2012 Gotbacks on-sale pretty cheap on line, but maybe it is worth waiting until the snow flies so I can demo for length (and type of ski).

 

And esales09... I don't know how to PM... can you PM me? What length are the Elysians?

post #7 of 7

I do a fair amount of backcountry skiing (30 days a year, in addition to 70 in resort). I am currently on the K2 Hardside, but I am moving to Blizzard bonafides next season. I was blown away by how easy they are to ski, and yet they hold a great edge on ice (which you will encounter in the bc.), and how well they handle crappy snow conditions (of which you will also encounter).

 

I tried a number of BC skis, and I found them wanting. Light, they go well uphill, but easily deflected on the down.

 

I also like to ski on the same ski , resort or Bc, so I buy two pairs, one with Dynafits (only way to go) and one with alpine bindings.

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