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post #31 of 90
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Audi Birds of Prey, Beaver Creek, CO – Nov. 30-Dec. 2
NBC: Sunday, Dec. 2 – 1:00 p.m. ET (men’s DH, same weekend)
NBC Sports: Sunday, Dec. 2 – 3:00-4:00 p.m. ET (men’s GS, LIVE)
NBC Sports: Super G TBD

 

I'm confused. The DH is Friday Nov 30th. The SG is Saturday. So it looks like all they are actually committing to show is both runs of the GS on Sunday. Maybe they'll show the SG but really? No plans to show the DH? NBC coverage of the BC and Aspen events in the past has been abysmal so showing one event live is better than nothing, but from the fanfare of the press release I would have expected more. I'm planning on being there in person again anyway but this still bugs me--I may not be able to make the Friday DH.

 

 

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After some negotiations, I was able to cut $20 off my monthly bill for the next year & get USN at least for the season!  I am pretty stoked to have actually won a battle with Dish, although I know that I will never win the war.

Threatening to quit then getting transferred to a customer retention specialist is always a great way to save $$. My sister has worked her cable co for years this way in order to get free HBO and such.

 

 

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The total cost:

VPN - $55 /year

Eurosport - $8 month to month, ir $58/year,

 

One year for everything:  113$ /year

 

Setup time  - 45 minutes for both services, including dorking with credit card.

Addtional hour to find the best honkin streaming server.

 

and, it covers all sports, whereas I had to pay separately with universalsports for each sport.

 

Sounds like a good plan if you watch a variety of sports, but an expensive hassle for those of us that just want the skiing. And do you get English commentary? I suspect not, and that's what I really miss, watching US online. I don't understand why they can't show their tv broadcasts online for those of us that watch on demand.

post #32 of 90
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Originally Posted by Christy319 View Post

I'm confused. The DH is Friday Nov 30th. The SG is Saturday. So it looks like all they are actually committing to show is both runs of the GS on Sunday. Maybe they'll show the SG but really? No plans to show the DH? NBC coverage of the BC and Aspen events in the past has been abysmal so showing one event live is better than nothing, but from the fanfare of the press release I would have expected more. I'm planning on being there in person again anyway but this still bugs me--I may not be able to make the Friday DH.

Probably chose the GS because of Ted.  Canadians will probably have live coverage of everything as will the Euros.

 

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Threatening to quit then getting transferred to a customer retention specialist is always a great way to save $$. My sister has worked her cable co for years this way in order to get free HBO and such.

Believe me I am not getting anything for free, LOL!  They have been over charging me for years & claim that they cannot credit me the overcharges.  I could probably...  ah nevermind, I am not gonna go there.

 

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Sounds like a good plan if you watch a variety of sports, but an expensive hassle for those of us that just want the skiing. And do you get English commentary? I suspect not, and that's what I really miss, watching US online. I don't understand why they can't show their tv broadcasts online for those of us that watch on demand.

If you can make the Eurosport thing work I would recommend it.  If you can get the British feed it is really good, in english & highly entertaining!

 

Have fun at the races,

 

JF

post #33 of 90

I get coverage on CBC on cable here in VT.  They have a WC race most every weekend, particularly the downhills.  They show them tape delayed the same day edited down to 1 hour.  Best option is to DVR them and ff through Canadian ads.  Production values are not that great and we don't get it in HD, and you have to deal with Canadian homer announcers, but it's good entertainment.  

post #34 of 90

CRAP. Universal Sports online is no longer an option. I know some of you won't care but for those of us that don't want to hassle with the other options given above, it still felt like my only viable option.

 

 

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On July 27, 2012, all live streaming events and full event replays will only be available exclusively to DIRECTV and DISH customers with Universal Sports as part of their television package. These events will no longer be offered for sale online, but will be free to users who verify their subscriptions on our website. As future providers add Universal Sports to their channel lineup, it is likely that authenticated access to UniversalSports.com will also be granted.

 

What is required for accessing live or event replays on UniversalSports.com?
You will need to verify on our website that you subscribe to a cable, satellite or telco video tier, or package, that includes Universal Sports Network by entering a user name and password associated with your account from your TV provider. There is no additional charge for this service and your account will not be affected.

 

 

Edit: Checked out the CBC website. It looks like they have live streaming of many races. This seems to good to be true. Am I missing something?

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Sports/Full+Shows/ID/2294437196/

 

 

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If you can make the Eurosport thing work I would recommend it.

 

While googling about VPNs it seems that Comcast internet (which we have) + a VPN is a massive headache. May or may not work, Comcast home service won't support it unless you have their expensive "professional" service.


Edited by Christy319 - 10/23/12 at 1:36pm
post #35 of 90

I broke down and went the VPN/Eurosport UK way.

 

It took over an hour to set up VPN and I needed a lot of live help (which Strong VPN was very good about providing). The VPN is $55 for a year and the Europsport is $8 a month, so this is more expensive than Universal Sports was. But as US does not offer subscriptions anymore, this seemed like my only option.

 

Now, the big question. The Eurosport website vaguely says they offer on demand events. They have their broadcast schedule for Soelden up, and they offer live and set times for rebroadcasts. I may not be able to see if they will offer skiing on demand until after the races broadcast. This is really only going to work for me if they offer ski events on demand. *fingers crossed*

post #36 of 90

Now that I'm thinking about it, is a paid VPN actually necessary to watch Eurosport? I seem to remember reading about some people just using different DNS servers to be able to watch the BBC's coverage of the Olympics earlier this year. This won't give you a European IP address, but using a DNS server from across the pond would route all your web traffic through a European DNS server before it goes from there to you, which I think could be enough to make them think you're in Europe, depending on how they track your location. (I think this is right, but I'm not 100% confident in my understanding of networks) Perhaps somebody who already has a Eurosport subscription could test this out? Google runs a DNS service and has a guide for changing your DNS servers at [1], and services like [2] might work. Also, OpenNIC [3] has servers all over the place, so some of the European ones might work [4].

 

But for whatever works, if you get yourself a British VPN, you can help justify the cost by using the fabulous BBC iPlayer and getting all of that awesome content as a bonus. =D

 

[1]: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using

[2]: http://tunlr.net/get-started/get-started-with-windows-7/

[3]: http://www.opennicproject.org/

[4]: http://wiki.opennicproject.org/Tier2

post #37 of 90

I've been doing some experimenting over the past couple of days in relation to my ideas in my last post.  It turns out my understanding from the previous post wasn't quite correct.  Simply using a European DNS server isn't enough, in order to get through to region-locked content, you need to use a special DNS unblocker service.  DNS unblockers function just like normal DNS servers to direct your computer to the right servers, but they're configured for certain addresses to use some data envelope re-addressing trickery to fool the servers into thinking you're somewhere you're not.  So while a service like Tunlr does this, it isn't configured to support Eurosport, so you're out of luck there.  =(

 

However, I found a paid DNS unblocker, Unblock-Us, who does support British Eurosport! [1]  It costs $5 per month with a 7 day free trial.  It's worse than free, but better than a lot of the VPNs I was looking at, and with it you'll stream the video directly from the Eurosport servers without having to pipe it through your VPN's servers and worry about potential bandwidth constrictions there.  So I think I'll be using this to watch ski racing on Eurosport this season.  

 

[1]: http://support.unblock-us.com/customer/portal/articles/291570

post #38 of 90
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I don't even see the event from a week ago in Austria on the Canadian CBC site.  Do they only pick and choose some events to post?

 

Trying to watch ski racing in the US sucks.

post #39 of 90

Yeah, CBC doesn't exactly have comprehensive coverage.  They pretty much only play speed events in my past experience, and not even all of those.

 

If it helps, I found someone who posted 3/4 of the Soelden race on Youtube, with German commentary and no subtitles.

 

Soelden - Ladies Run 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCYthZ4GcBw

 

Soelden - Men Run 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEieglXsy2s

 

Soelden - Men Run 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtQuGheyf4o

post #40 of 90

I've been fortunate living in Europe that I always get to watch everything live. Looking forward to tomorrow's races. But coming to Canada for the season I hope there's some way of watching at least a highlights show?

post #41 of 90
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Originally Posted by FujativeOCR View Post

I don't even see the event from a week ago in Austria on the Canadian CBC site.  Do they only pick and choose some events to post?

 

Trying to watch ski racing in the US sucks.

 

 

CBC unfortunately does not pick up all races, mostly the speed races and a few technical races. Rogers Sportsnet fills in a few of the gaps with more of the tech events so between the two, you get pretty decent coverage. If you can get the affiliate channel - CBC Bold, they run the full live coverage of the events they broadcast, where the main station runs edited versions. CBC always starts its seasonal coverage with Lake Louise, so no Solden nor Levi.

post #42 of 90

There are much easier solutions out there than what some have suggested.  Their legality is dubious, but I think some of the above-mentioned solutions are also as dubious.  If you can find the two sites mentioned below you can watch the races live in the middle of the night or catch a British Eurosport one hour summary show during daylight hours.  They will list about five Eurosport feeds but they do not tell you which one is the British one.  Click enough times and you will find a British feed. 

 

atdhe24

usagoals

 

P.S. As a fantasy football junkie these sites are great to watch any football game you want without DirecTV.

 

Mods, feel free to delete as I am giving out some secrets here, but for those lucky enough to catch this post, enjoy the races this weekend. 

post #43 of 90
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There are much easier solutions out there than what some have suggested.

If you can find the two sites mentioned below you can watch the races live in the middle of the night or catch a British Eurosport one hour summary show during daylight hours. 

They must have been deleted by now, but, I personally don't consider getting up at 3 am to watch ski racing an "easier" solution, lol. And a highlight show doesn't scratch the itch.

post #44 of 90
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Originally Posted by Christy319 View Post

They must have been deleted by now, but, I personally don't consider getting up at 3 am to watch ski racing an "easier" solution, lol. And a highlight show doesn't scratch the itch.

 



Maybe I was being too vague in my OP but you need to type one of those two phrases I listed into Google and you will find the sites.  There is no direct link.

 

Luckily the second run will be on at 8 a.m. on the East Coast.  The recap show (top racers only) is the same feed that Universal Sports airs, and it comes on in the late afternoon if you are EST. You don't get Porino and Lewis doing the call but the British Eurosport guys are excellent.  I saw the trouble you are having trying to get the races.  I am trying to help you. 

post #45 of 90

There are a ton of sites that host streams of the races live. They're pretty easy to find (e.g. frombar.tv, theusagetv.org), and if you click on enough streams, you'll find one in english and that has great quality. They've been suggested in this thread and in other similar threads.

 

of course, they are at inconvenient times because they're live ...

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Originally Posted by Johnny Style View Post

There are much easier solutions out there than what some have suggested.  Their legality is dubious, but I think some of the above-mentioned solutions are also as dubious.  If you can find the two sites mentioned below you can watch the races live in the middle of the night or catch a British Eurosport one hour summary show during daylight hours.  They will list about five Eurosport feeds but they do not tell you which one is the British one.  Click enough times and you will find a British feed. 

 

atdhe24

usagoals

 

P.S. As a fantasy football junkie these sites are great to watch any football game you want without DirecTV.

 

Mods, feel free to delete as I am giving out some secrets here, but for those lucky enough to catch this post, enjoy the races this weekend. 

post #46 of 90
Thread Starter 

I almost switched to DirecTV today just to get Universal Sports.  Problem is I don't want to support Universal Sports.  They can die for all I care after that BS they pulled last year.  Unfortunately they seem to have a monopoly on ski racing here.

post #47 of 90
Thanks JohnnyStyle but I am all hooked up with a VPN and British Eurosport. Though the lack of on demand programming is disappointing; they rerun the races but at set times.

I am traveling right now and actually caught the women's slalom on DirecTV on United this morning. That was a nice surprise.
post #48 of 90

VPN/Eurosport works fine, but there is really no on-demand feature as we think of it.  They rebroadcast events at fixed times.   My schedule lately has been not very kind to me for the world cups.

 

I also notice they have a few true on-demand alpine events, and they are a bit stale.   I have been switching between various countries.  I find that Netherlands has different on demand content than UK.  That's the biggest disappointment.  The only good thing has been the events last week were in the US, so the times actually were reasonable.

post #49 of 90

For the European races that end up being at stupid times locally, I've just left Eurosport streaming all night and used a screen capture program (ScreenFlow, but it's Mac only) to record it, and then crop and cut it up appropriately the next day.  So then I can watch and re-watch the races at more convenient times.  It's kind of like personal on-demand or something.  =D

post #50 of 90
This is a great thread, but I still think I'm going to end up going with satellite service. There's no way I'm getting up in the middle of the night to watch skiing if I want to keep my job. I tried that for a while last year before giving up and subscribing to US online (crappy deal that it was). Satellite with the sports pack will be pricier, and I hate the idea of the two year contract, but not getting skiing or cycling just pisses me off more than I hate US.

So those of you who've given up and gone with Dish or DirecTV, do they offer ski racing on demand? I can record new races, but I've missed a month of the season already, and it'd be nice to go back and watch some of the earlier races. I've been deliberately avoiding finding out the results and news because I hope to catch up.

Also, does anyone have an opinion about which service is better (or at least less bad)?
post #51 of 90
On DISH the races are replayed often. No On-Demand service that I know of. Tonight they replayed the '11 men's DH from L Louise.

I do not know which is better, Direct or DISH, as I have only tried DISH.

I was able to get USN added for 4 bucks/month from DISH. It never occurred to me to use the call as an opportunity to negotiate a better monthly deal. DOH!
post #52 of 90
Thanks, Snowfan. Were you able to get US separately, or as part of their sports package? It just occurred to me that US makes on-demand videos available for free when you log in with your TV provider account info. I doubt they keep them forever, but when I signed up last year I was able to go back and watch some races I'd missed. I think I'll break down and sign up for Dish at Costco; they'll include their concierge support if I sign up at the store kiosk.
post #53 of 90
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Thanks, Snowfan. Were you able to get US separately, or as part of their sports package?

Hi litterbug,

It was added as a package and at this moment I do not recall what came with it.
post #54 of 90

Free live streaming of the Beaver Creek races here--I think Audi is sponsoring this:

 

http://www.ustream.tv/bcworldcup

post #55 of 90

I think some of the Beaver Creek coverage will be on NBC Sports channel as was the Aspen Women's SL.   As far as I can tell NBC Sports channel is not included in the $4 sports package on Dish (USN is), only on one of their more expensive premium packages.  I am beginning to think there is a conspiracy against ski racing in this country nonono2.gif

 

JF

post #56 of 90
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I think some of the Beaver Creek coverage will be on NBC Sports channel as was the Aspen Women's SL.   As far as I can tell NBC Sports channel is not included in the $4 sports package on Dish (USN is), only on one of their more expensive premium packages.  I am beginning to think there is a conspiracy against ski racing in this country nonono2.gif

JF
And they wonder why it's not more popular here. You might be right about NBC Sports. I think it comes with DirecTV's sports package but not with Dish's...or was it the other way around. I'm hoping to get around to dealing with the whole entertainment thing this weekend. Until then, thanks for the link, Christy319!
post #57 of 90
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I think some of the Beaver Creek coverage will be on NBC Sports channel as was the Aspen Women's SL.

 

 

 

NBC isn't showing the downhill until Sunday, and even then only an hour of coverage; they also aren't showing the Super G. So the Audi broadcast is a treat.

post #58 of 90

cbcsports.ca is showing the first women's DH today, live at 14:25 EST. Don't know how well it works if you are out of outside of Canada however.
 

post #59 of 90
It doesn't work in the US.
post #60 of 90
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Originally Posted by Christy319 View Post

Free live streaming of the Beaver Creek races here--I think Audi is sponsoring this:

http://www.ustream.tv/bcworldcup
Unless I'm in the wrong place, this consists of a low-res stream from a camera at the bottom of the run. It's in front of a video screen which is impossible to make out, but you can make out the skiers arriving at the finish as indistinct specs. What you can do is listen to the commentary. You lose a lot not seeing anything, but I guess it's nice getting contemporaneous results.
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