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post #61 of 99

Did you consider Snow King in Jackson hole or Targhee? 

post #62 of 99

I agree that most people at the level of those in your party pay for more mountain than they need, but it's nice for them/you to be in a "ski town" when they are limited in the amount of skiing than can do in a day and possibly needing days off in between. Having a lot of non-skiing options of things to do right there is great.

 

But hey, it's vacation, I'm sure you all will enjoy it regardless of where you go! Have fun!

post #63 of 99
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post

Did you consider Snow King in Jackson hole or Targhee? 

 

No unfortunately I had never heard of Snow King so I didn't get a chance to consider that one.  I did look at Grand Targhee, but it appears to only have ONE green run outside the "Kids Fun Zone" so it didn't look all that appealing (at B.H. there are a bunch of different green runs on Navajo mountain).  Targhee looks like a great place for future trips though!

 

David

post #64 of 99
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I agree that most people at the level of those in your party pay for more mountain than they need, but it's nice for them/you to be in a "ski town" when they are limited in the amount of skiing than can do in a day and possibly needing days off in between. Having a lot of non-skiing options of things to do right there is great.

 

But hey, it's vacation, I'm sure you all will enjoy it regardless of where you go! Have fun!

 

 

Very true!  We're not party or night-life people, and we plan to cook most meals in the condo (my wife is a gourmet cook).  So having a nice "ski town" with lots of restaurants or other Après-ski options isn't important to us on this trip.  We'll only be there four days and expect to ski three, and fortunately B.H. has the non-skiing options that we're most interested in, which is snowmobiling, snow-tubing, and maybe some snow-sledding.  And if there's any time left for a little relaxation, that would be nice too.  smile.gif

 

David

post #65 of 99
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And I didn't think that you had your mind made up, David - you are just a good planner/thinker, searching for and considering all of the options! I work that way too. I too enjoyed hearing all of the other options, for future reference!

 

Anyway, it sounds as if you got a great deal, and you all should have a super time!! Make sure you have lots of cameras handy!!

 

Kitty
 

 

 

Thanks Kitty!  I definitely plan on taking lots of photos/videos, and will be sure to post them in Trip Reports.

 

David

post #66 of 99
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The flip side to that cautionary tale is that I've used VRBO with no issues for several ski trips in the last five years.  I spend a bit of time going back and forth by email and/or phone getting to know the owners before making a commitment.  Have gotten good deals making a deposit in the fall.

 

 

Agreed!  I've used VRBO on a few occasions and have great success.  You can find horror stories in almost any aspect of life/business, but the vast majority of peoples' experiences with VRBO seem to be positive and I'm perfectly comfortable taking the small "risk" involved, especially when I've taken the time to get to know the owner or property manager.

 

David

post #67 of 99
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The good news is that discounts typically abound at that point, because most people think the ski season ends after Presidents' Week.  (I, on the other hand, think that's when it's just starting to get good.)

 

For snow quality and terrain availability, I'd look at the late season suggestions on Tony Crocker's site, bestsnow.net.  And better yet, I'd wait to decide until the end of February at the earliest.  You should be able to get good plane fares as long as you're booking at least two weeks out, and you'll know where the best snow has been (and therefore, where conditions are likely to be best when you're going).  Plus, places start to get desperate to rent by then.

 

For cost-effectiveness on lift tickets, I'd go somewhere that either has a cheap season pass you can buy now (e.g., Vail resorts, including Heavenly and Kirkwood); is likely to have a spring pass deal by that time (e.g., Alpine and Squaw); or will probably have next year's passes for sale by that point and will let you ride for free the rest of the season.

 

As a general rule, Utah resorts have lousy deals on kids' tickets, so I'd do a serious comparison shop with Colorado, Tahoe, etc.

 

 

Thanks for the comments TheDad!  But we've already made reservations, so we're pretty well set.

 

I did look at several "Season Pass" options, and they all seemed to be far more expensive than three days' worth of ski tickets, so that didn't seem to make sense (knowing that we wouldn't return to that same resort in the same season after our late-March trip).  Of course we could change our plans to a different resort if we wanted to.  There's only a small cancellation fee until the last 30 days before check-in, so if some irresistible deal becomes available at a bigger resort in January/February before we book airfare, we could easily change our destination plans.  Or if conditions are looking absolutely horrible we could even cancel the trip if necessary.  But it sure feels good to have plans in place now that we can look forward to!  icon14.gif

 

David

post #68 of 99
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Originally Posted by David Giles View Post

I did look at several "Season Pass" options, and they all seemed to be far more expensive than three days' worth of ski tickets, so that didn't seem to make sense (knowing that we wouldn't return to that same resort in the same season after our late-March trip). 

 

Sorry if I wasn't totally clear.  At many resorts, when you buy next season's pass in the spring, you get to ski the rest of the current season for free.  That gives you the opportunity to go back to the same resort the following season with your tickets already covered.

post #69 of 99
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Sorry if I wasn't totally clear.  At many resorts, when you buy next season's pass in the spring, you get to ski the rest of the current season for free.  That gives you the opportunity to go back to the same resort the following season with your tickets already covered.

 

 

Ah, I see what you mean now.  We'll definitely check into that when the time comes.  Thanks for the tip!

 

David

post #70 of 99
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Originally Posted by David Giles View Post

 

 we plan to cook most meals in the condo (my wife is a gourmet cook).  

 

David

 

That changes everything.  Plan a trip to Stevens Pass and Mt Baker.  You can stay at my house. biggrin.gif

post #71 of 99
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That changes everything.  Plan a trip to Stevens Pass and Mt Baker.  You can stay at my house. biggrin.gif

 

 

Deal!  biggrin.gif

 

 

David

post #72 of 99
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Originally Posted by David Giles View Post

Yep, I came to the exact same conclusion.  So I made the reservations at B.H. this morning. yahoo.gif For $800 bucks for five nights in a nice large condo that REALLY IS ski-in ski-out, I just couldn't find any resort that could come close to the deal at B.H. (especially considering the 1/2 price lift tickets that we will probably be able to get).






Of course I'm well aware that there is a BIG difference between a tiny little resort like B.H. and the much bigger mountains that have been suggested, and on future trips I hope to visit many of them.  But I think this was the right choice for this trip.

My 13 yr old son who's been on one ski trip 5 years ago insists that he wants to snowboard this time around.  And his little brother will do whatever big brother does.  So I plan to do what I've been threatening to do for years now, and take snowboard lessons myself!  I've always wanted to try it, but in the past when it was just me and my wife and/or ski buddies, it never seemed to make sense to "waste" a day falling on my arse when everybody else was having a blast on skies.  But this should be the perfect time.  I'm sure all those normally "boring" green runs will be quite challenging for me, and the boys won't know any better.  And my wife will be perfectly happy staying with us on mostly green runs all week, and probably happy that I'm not encouraging her to ski blues that she might not be completely relaxed on.

Now we just have to be patient for 8 loonnnnggg months, and save hard so that we can afford that end-of-the-week splurge in the Cottonwoods!  Ott+Wedeln.gif


David


Nice! Enjoy your trip. Sounds like a good one.
post #73 of 99

I'm late to this discussion, but I dispute this statement.

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Brian Head could be a real crap shoot for that late in the season.

Late season reliability is not rocket science.  It's mostly about altitude and exposure.  There is regional context, so sure altitude has to be higher in the Southwest than in Canada or the interior Northwest.  Nonetheless Brian Head's base is at 9,700 feet, which is as high as anywhere in North America.  High enough that altitude sensitive people will have a problem there for 2-3 days.  If that's you, consider a Diamox prescription, which solved that problem for my ex-wife who was fine at 8,000 foot resorts like Mammoth and Vail but not at 9,000+ in Crested Butte or Taos.  BH exposure is mostly east and west I think (my day there was in 1986), should be OK at that altitude.  It is a small mountain, agree you shouldn't be there a whole week.  Bryce and Zion are quite close, I've been in that area after my spring ski trips the last 2 seasons.  If your family has had enough skiing after 2-3 days, that's an attractive option to have. 

 

I have mentioned in numerous threads that staying in SLC and skiing the Cottonwoods is the best quality for value skiing we have in North America.  I will tell you to avoid Snowbird unlike our Florida beginner poster a couple of years back.  Alta and Brighton you should enjoy especially if you get in some mileage at Brian Head first.  Solitude is OK, but like one of the posters mentioned you may be confined to the lower mountain.  All of Cottonwood resorts are pretty solid bets for late March.  Park City is not.  The lower mountain, which has a lot of the easy terrain, is very sloppy on warm days in spring.

 

Other places mentioned?   Big Sky/Moonlight is very good for beginners/low intermediates IMHO.  My reservations about late season are more directed at advanced skiers on the upper mountain south facing terrain.  I will once again remind people that Yellowstone is always closed in late March though.  I'm not sure that Bridger is that great a beginner recommendation. It's also considerably lower than Big Sky/Moonlight.  

 

The front side of Whitefish faces south, which to me is always a big red flag for late March.  Read sibhusky's notes, snow conditions are all over the map.  Go there in Jan/Feb, learn to deal with the fog and enjoy much more reliable snow.   Schweitzer has a somewhat similar profile to Whitefish.  It's backside better exposed terrain is a bigger part of the mountain than at Whitefish but it's not for beginners.  I had my first day at Silver last February.  It's predominantly north facing, likely one of the better late season places in that part of the country.

post #74 of 99
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Thanks for your comments Tony!  I'm glad to hear that you think B.H. is a relatively safe bet for that time of year.  Of course I know that anything can happen and they could have one of the warmest, least snowy seasons on record next year.  Hopefully that won't happen, but frankly even if it did we would probably still have plenty of fun learning to snowboard since I'm sure they would manage to keep SOME snow on the slopes with snow machines if necessary.

 

My wife and I have never had any serious altitude sickness symptoms other than a mild headache or two (nothing that some acetaminophen wouldn't knock out).  But I may look into getting a Diamox prescription just in case...

 

And thanks for the warning on Park City!  That was definitely on my radar for the last couple of days of our trip, if we're able to expand the budget to accommodate a couple of extra days.  But sloppy doesn't sound too appealing (if better options are available), so we'll probably avoid it unless conditions are particularly good at that time.  I like everything I've heard about Brighton, and that's the only Cottonwood resort I've never been to, so we'll probably give that the most consideration if budget allows.

 

David

post #75 of 99
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Made a slight alteration to our reservations.  Instead of Sunday thru Thursday nights, I changed the reservation to Saturday thru Wednesday night.  Still five nights at Brian Head but that leaves us more time at the end of the week.  I'm being optimistic and hoping that we can afford to spend Thu, Fri, and Sat in SLC for some Cottonwoods action.   biggrin.gif

 

David

post #76 of 99
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Originally Posted by David Giles View Post

Made a slight alteration to our reservations.  Instead of Sunday thru Thursday nights, I changed the reservation to Saturday thru Wednesday night.  Still five nights at Brian Head but that leaves us more time at the end of the week.  I'm being optimistic and hoping that we can afford to spend Thu, Fri, and Sat in SLC for some Cottonwoods action.   biggrin.gif

 

David

Hope it works out for you!

 

The La Quinta in Midvale is a good deal.  Free hot breakfast plus a pool with a hot tub.  Can get a fridge/microwave for an extra $10/night.

post #77 of 99
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Hope it works out for you!

 

The La Quinta in Midvale is a good deal.  Free hot breakfast plus a pool with a hot tub.  Can get a fridge/microwave for an extra $10/night.

 

 

Thanks marznc!  I've stayed at the Super 8 in Midvale a couple of times and it's a decent cheap-sleep.  But I'll definitely check out the La Quinta and see how it compares.  The indoor heated pool at the La Quinta would definitely be popular with the kids!

post #78 of 99

I know I'm late to the party, but you might want to see what states offer free skiing for kids. Some states offer free lift tickets to kids in 4th grade or 5th grade. You have to pay a nominal fee for the processing and you get vouchers or something. They usually ask for a report card to verify grade enrollment. This may help you contain your costs. YMMV.

 

Also, if you consider flying into SLC, you could think about making last minute reservations. That way, you could somewhat see who has the better snow and might be able to get a deal.

 

I'm not sure that doing things like snowmobiling and the like are going to be any money savers. You'll obviously check on that.

 

The more ski school the better, especially since they've not really skied much before.

post #79 of 99
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Thanks for your comments farbster!  I did see some kids-ski-free options, but the adult lift tickets in those cases usually cancelled out the overall savings (compared to what we can get at B.H.).  At least that seemed to be the case at resorts that I looked at that had affordable/desirable lodging options.

 

You're probably right that if we wait until the last minute we might be able to get some kind of killer deal.  But I doubt that any last minute deals would be available on the kind of accommodations that we really WANT to stay in (i.e. a nice roomy two bedroom ski in ski out condo with full kitchen in a mostly-green area).  I strongly suspect that those kinds of highly desirable accommodations book up early, or would be at a premium for last minute travelers.

 

Snowmobiling definitely isn't a money saving activity, but that is something that we really want to do as a family, which is why we're trying so hard to keep the lodging and lift ticket expense down to a minimum.

 

And I agree about "the more ski school the better"!  Yours truly will probably need at least two full days of instruction in order to not look like a complete dork on a snowboard.   biggrin.gif

post #80 of 99
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Starting to get excited again about our trip out to Utah in late March!  Does anybody here on the forum know for sure if Brian Head is offering 1/2 off coupons again this year at Terrible Herbst stores in Vegas?  I can't find any current mention of it on the net, and I've posted the question on the B.H. Facebook page but they don't seem to want to answer the question for some reason.  So I thought I'd check here and see if any southern Utah or Vegas locals might know?  If that deal isn't offered this year, then we may consider other resorts (not too late to cancel our lodging reservations, and we haven't bought airfare yet).

 

David

post #81 of 99
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Well, CRAP!  Somebody answered my question on the Brian Head Facebook page, and they didn't think that the resort was going to offer the discount coupons at Terrible Herbst again like they have in previous years.  They did mention the new 5-day "punch card" which gives you 5 midweek days of skiing for $159.  Definitely a good deal if you need five days worth of lift tickets.  But we're going to be taking snowboard lessons the first day and MAYBE the second day, and lessons automatically include lift tickets.  Then we'll only be skiing another couple of days after the lesson days, so the 5-day punch card won't help us.  Bummer!

 

David

post #82 of 99

Sorry to be so late to this thread.  I own a three bedroom condo at Aspens--not quite ski in ski out, but a 150 yard walk across the parking lot to Giant steps.  I could've hooked you up. To get to the beginner terrain on the Navajo side, you have to ride a shuttle or traverse over from the top of Wildflower anyway.  Late season conditions are usually quite good, with March often bringing the most snow of the season.  I've seen good conditions in June, though the lifts were closed.  It's a great place for a family (we have four kids) and the ski school is pretty good, staffed mostly with fresh faced kids from Southern Utah University in Cedar.  We liked the SkiWee program for little guys.  There's not much there gnarly enough to get your kids in trouble and the area's not so big that they're easy to lose.  Dining options are sparse; best calories per dollar is at Pizzano's in the mall, skier's right from the Blackfoot chair at the Giant Steps base.  Rent your stuff at Georg's, the shop at the base of the Wildfower lift.  Their gear is better maintained and cheaper.  If you're lucky enough to get a powder day, have George or Robbie or Danny hook you up with some demo powder skiis and give it  a try.  At that altitude, the snow is pretty fluffy and there are  lots of reasonably sloped places to plunge off into the soft stuff.    BH is not thrillsville and definitely lacks any sustained steeps, but it's a great place for the family.  I don't know if anyone up on the mountain is doing snowmobile tours this year, but it's worth going if they're running.  The terrain around Cedar Breaks is spectacular.  For a change up, rent some snowshoes or xc gear and  hike into the Park Service's yurt at Cedar Breaks.    Zions would be deserted this time of year and well worth a trip if you've never been there.  It's about 90 minutes from BH.  If it's dumping, you will need 4wd or chains to get up the canyon.  The last 3-4 miles of the climb are pretty steep with a big switchback at the top and lots of clueless Vegas Drivers clogging the road.  We love BH--you should have a great time.

post #83 of 99
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Thanks for the reply lorriedan!  We're pretty excited about having actual ski-in ski-out accommodations. yahoo.gif   Especially since they're on the Navajo side, which is probably where we'll spend most of our time (at least for the first couple of days).  It'll be nice NOT to have to catch a shuttle or walk too far.  And hopefully by the 3rd or 4th day we can all ski/board over to the Giant Steps side via the ski bridge.  But thanks for the hook-up offer on the condo, and I'll definitely check back with you if we decide to go another time.

 

I'll definitely check out Georg's for rentals and Pizzano's for calories.  And it looks like our budget will be able to handle a snowmobile tour, so I HOPE they're doing tours this year!  And we do hope to see Cedar Breaks and/or Zion if time and weather permits.

 

Anyway, "not thrillsville" and "a great place for the family" should be perfect for this trip.  With me and two boys taking first-timer snowboard lessons, and a non-thrill-seeking wife on skis, BH should be perfect (assuming we get decent weather and snow).

 

Now if the airlines would just hurry up and extend discounted prices for a week farther into the future, we'd be set!  Right now I can buy round-trip NONSTOP tickets from Atlanta to Las Vegas for $321 for the third week in March (the HEIGHT of spring break).  But we're flying out the LAST week in March, and prices jump up to $360 a ticket for that week.  Not a huge amount of money, but saving $40 each for 4 tickets would help pay for some snowmobiling!  And I'm reasonably sure that I'll be able to get the same $321 price (or maybe even better) if I just wait another 2-3 weeks.  Patience, patience....  rolleyes.gif

 

David

post #84 of 99

We have four kids, so I feel your pain. I've so far managed to keep them off drugs and snowboards! What condo are you staying at?  I'm not aware of any true SI/SO properties on the Navajo side, unless you're up to some bushwhacking.  Cedar Breaks is closed to vehicles in Winter, but you can get there with a snowmobile or on snowshoes or XC.  You can even see a piece of it from the Giant Steps lift.  

 

I'm not aware of any pass deals this year; the resort just got a new owner who has upped season pass prices; not sure about the Terrible Herbst deal, but I'll try to let you know it they do it again this year.  brianhead.com usually contains info on discounts and events as well.

 

Have a wonderful time and contact me with any more questions as your trip gets closer.

 

Dan Curriden

post #85 of 99
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Believe me, I wish my boys wanted to ski!  But they have their hearts set on snowboarding for some reason, so I'm going to bite the bullet and learn it with them.

 

We're staying at Pinetree D1 (see attached image).  We'll probably have to walk a FEW feet to get on the actual slope, but it should be pretty minimal.

 

Yeah somebody with the resort answered my question on Facebook about the Terrible Herbst deal, and it sounds like they won't be doing that this year.  hissyfit.gif  They are offering a 5-weekday "Punch Pass" for $156 which is pretty darn good, but please do let me know if you hear of some other great deals, especially since our trip is so near the end of the season.

 

Thanks again for your kind offer of assistance Dan, and good skiing!

 

David

 

 

 

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post #86 of 99

No problem--you definitely get a "good Dad" award.  Those are pretty nice condos, but the ski out is easier than the ski in!

post #87 of 99
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Yeah I thought that the "ski in" might be a bit of a stretch, but it's probably not too bad compared to most other lodging on the mountain.

 

Anyway, thanks again Dan and I just hope my kids appreciate everything I'm doing to win the "good Dad" award!  biggrin.gif

 

David

post #88 of 99
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Originally Posted by David Giles View Postwe plan to cook most meals in the condo (my wife is a gourmet cook). 

Very late response but we have 4 kids and prefer the 2BR/2BA condo for all our vacations, not just ski.  You may already know this but keep in mind that these "fully equipped" kitchens are not really fully equipped for people like your wife and me who gourmet cook.  There are enough plates, bowls, silverware and stuff to eat with, but your "fully equipped" kitchen will most likely have one saucepan, one 8-10 in. frying pan, one larger pot, maybe 2 flimsy kitchen spoons to cook/saute with, one can opener, and maybe a whisk.  Knives are usually of the steak or paring type--no chef's knife to appropriately cut up meat or veggies.  All grocery store--not All-Clad/Caphalon--quality, meaning cooking spoons that bend when you are turning potatoes and rice so there is uneven cooking.  It makes for very frustrating cooking unless you are planning on bringing or buying better kitchen utensils at the store (I never thought it was worth it).  We end up "cooking" pasta with jarred sauces with precooked frozen meatballs, grilling pre-marinated meats, buying veggies already prepped and cut up or frozen, or just getting a roasted chicken, tortillas, salad in a bag and making chicken wraps, etc.  One condo had salt and pepper but I've otherwise never had anything else in the condos, so the spice rack that your wife is used to in her pantry is not going to be there, unless again, you go through the expense of buying it all when you get there.  Have rarely even seen sugar for coffee (good thing I don't take sugar in my coffee).  All electric stoves so far that we have had.  One baking sheet usually and one grilling sheet for the oven.  You'd have to buy stuff like foil and oil and it just gets really expensive.  

Don't get me wrong--I am fully grateful for these kitchens but your meals may not be exactly gourmet.  smile.gif  Just fyi for your wife from a fellow cook.

post #89 of 99

If you 12 year old is in 6th grade this year, you can use the Utah ski passport program - it's great for 6th graders  (and remember the amazing 5th grade program for your 8 year old for the future):

http://www.skiutah.com/winter/deals/deals/passports

 

Brighton - definitely for your family level.  Nothing like being able to ski down from the top of the mountain to build confidence and great views.  We've been to Solitude 9 years in a row and ski at Brighton every year.  So obviously we love Solitude but it's very restricted for green/lower blue skiers because most of the blues above the lower mountain offer inexperienced skiers quite a challenge, and even the lower mountain into the village is more pitch than elsewhere.  Brighton has great long gentle greens and a wide wide range of very manageable blues.

post #90 of 99
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Thanks for the heads-up about the kitchen kaenhu!  I'll definitely pass on your info and advice to my wife.  We'll probably stick to pretty simple fare that week anyway, since she's supposed to be on vacation too.  smile.gif  But she can make simple fare taste pretty darn good with minimal accoutrements.

 

David

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