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Finally knocked one more baseball item off my bucket list this past weekend, saw the Pirates play the Giants at PNC Park. I've been to a lot of the classic parks (Wrigley, Fenway, Orioles Park at Camden Yards, original Yankee Stadium, original Busch), but the views at PNC park blow the others out of the water. I can see how fans of the Giants may rank AT&T Park higher for views, but from pictures/TV broadcasts I've seen, I don't think Dodger Stadium or Coors Field could be better. Sorry about that ya non-Yinzers.

 

Also been to some horrific parks, Three Rivers Stadium, Shea Stadium and RFK Stadium come to mind. Never made it to the Vet, thank God.

 

Definitely a well-deserved electricity around the Burgh for the Pirates. They have the second best record in the Senior Circuit, just behind the, ahem, Washington Nationals. Long personal story, but despite growing up in Connecticut, I rooted for the Buccos from 1970 to 1992 - the 80's were rough. (After that, it's been my local teams, the O's and then the Nats. Would prolly still be the O's if not for Angelos.)

 

Even though baseball is mostly for the traditionalists (Wrigley in particular), I thought the game-day production (scoreboard intro's, etc.) were very well done at PNC.

 

Walking across the Clemente bridge to the game is one of the ultimate game day experiences. I also like the statues of Pops Stargel, Clemente, Maz and Honus in well-situated spots, esp Maz. I like the Bucs-inspired color of the exterior stone. Camden Yards made brick cool again, but I like how a lot of later parks have gone in their own direction.

 

I will rank a few other ballparks higher in a few categories. But hey, each park is special in it's own way. Mebbe I'm being a homer, but I think Nationals Park has slightly better site lines for viewing the game (versus the city vista) and has a bit more variety for viewing the game. Nats Park has the Red Loft Porch in CF and some incredible open concourses and open areas behind the seats for viewing the game from a huge variety of different angles. It encourages ya to meander. Plus a prominent, retro-feel HD scoreboard. (But with the park location and vista, the Pirates would have been foolish to block the view.)

 

Pre/post game bar action was highly disappointing (despite some great company.) Wrigleyville blows the other 29 teams out of the water.

 

Conclusion on my limited samples:

Ballpark: PNC #1

Destination for a Roadtrip: Wrigleyville

 

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post #2 of 26
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Some pix from 3/29/08, the first MLB game in Nats Park (exhibition game against the O's in nosebleeders.) Also was there the next nite for Opening Day. Edit: JimK needs to insert his pic from the Strasburg thread here. Hint, hint.

 

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Edited by JohnL - 7/9/12 at 8:11pm
post #3 of 26

I guess the Texas Rangers ballpark in Arlington is probably the prettiest baseball stadium I've been at.  Also the first one where vendors brought me a menu, came back to take my order, then delivered my food and swiped my credit card.  That was 1999.

 

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FWIW, I enjoyed going to Shea to see Met's games in the mid 80s.  Maybe it is because they were winning at the time.biggrin.gif

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I haven't been to a major league game for a while but here is my list of the good, the bad and the ugly stadiums I have seen a game in.

 

The Good:

 

Wrigley Field

Old Comiskey Field

New Comiskey Field

Fenway Park

New Cleveland Stadium

Old Milwaukee County Stadium

The Astrodome

New Baltimore Stadium

Oakland Alameda

 Turner Field

 

The Bad:

 

Three Rivers Stadium

Old Arlington Stadium

Veterans Stadium

Old Baltimore Stadium

Candlestick Park (cold, cold, cold)

Atlanta Fulton County Stadium

 

The Ugly;

 

Shea Stadium

Olympic Stadium

The Metrodome

The Kingdome

post #5 of 26

I don't know that I'll ever get why folks speak so highly of Fenway.  I get that the fans there are second to none in enthusiasm and optimism.  However, any ball park with a severely limited dimension/monster wall falls short of ideal in my book.  Durham Bulls have the "Blue Monster".  I think though that gives the park uniqueness, and possibly somewhat of a home field advantage I just find oddball outfield dimensions defective. 

post #6 of 26
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I don't know that I'll ever get why folks speak so highly of Fenway.  I get that the fans there are second to none in enthusiasm and optimism.  However, any ball park with a severely limited dimension/monster wall falls short of ideal in my book.  Durham Bulls have the "Blue Monster".  I think though that gives the park uniqueness, and possibly somewhat of a home field advantage I just find oddball outfield dimensions defective.

 

What you call oddball outfield dimensions, I'll call character. Uniform dimensions are for football fans. Also, I wouldn't call the distances to the Fenway Green Monster to be "severely limited", though they are unique. http://www.baseball-almanac.com/stadium/fenway_park.shtml It's 310 down the line (a bit short by today's standards, but not by historical standards.) The area that is shortest per norm is likely the power alley in left center. The Green Monster also takes away from nearly as much as it gives to hitters. There are plenty of well-hit balls that turn into singles that would be doubles, triples or even homers in other parks.

 

I personally hate parks that play to one extreme or the other (extreme pitcher's parks or hitter's parks.) The Met's Citi Field is a prime example, though the changes they made over last season have probably helped. Bandbox parks such as those in Cincy or Philly can be ridiculous. With the thin air, Colorado's park distorts the baseball game (breaking balls and distance ball travels) and required field dimensions.

 

Outfield aspect I hate the most is the contrived CF slope in Houston. Plus isnt' there some sort of flagpole in the field of play?
 

post #7 of 26
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Quote:

The Good:

 

Wrigley Field

Old Comiskey Field

New Comiskey Field

Fenway Park

New Cleveland Stadium

Old Milwaukee County Stadium

The Astrodome

New Baltimore Stadium

Oakland Alameda

 Turner Field

 

Interesting that you have Oakland and The Astrodome in the good pile. I've never been to either, but many have complained about both. For Oakland, I think it's mostly the extreme foul area size.

post #8 of 26
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FWIW, I enjoyed going to Shea to see Met's games in the mid 80s.

 

I've got a decade on you, I remember Shea from the 70's (even saw the Yankees play there.) Back then, there were no (or fewer?) OF bleachers or that Big Apple thingamajig. You just stared at the vast parking lot (and train tracks) off in the distance.

 

I think I saw more concerts at Shea in the 80's than baseball games. The Who's original farewell tour (with The Clash and David Johanssen), Simon and Garfunkel come to mind.

post #9 of 26

That Pittsburgh park looks great.

 

I haven't been to very many MLB parks:

 

Senators RFK Wash DC - 60s and 70s

Nationals Park Wash DC -2000s

Dodgers Chavez Ravine LA - 60s ('64-'66 when it was nearly brand new), believe I also saw at least one Angels game when they played in this stadium before getting own facility in Anaheim.

Orioles: Memorial Stadium - '70s including several opening days and Camden Yards - '90s including a game three days before Ripkin broke Gehrig's record

 

I guess my favorite of those is Camden Yards, but I currently work close to Nationals Park and enjoy attending several games there each season.

 

During my recent ski travels I've had a few close drive-bys of MLB stadiums during off-season including St. Louis Cardinals, KC Royals, CO Rockies.  May post curbside pics later of these stadiums, although my shots are not very interesting.

 

In my misspent youth I was a big Mickey Mantle/Yankees fan and always wanted to see a game in the old Yankee stadium.  Never made it, but got close in 2002 when we made a prospective college visit to Fordham with my oldest child.

 

Photos from Nationals Park in Wash DC.

Image of Strasburg:

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Strasburg in the flesh:

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post #10 of 26
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I guess the Texas Rangers ballpark in Arlington is probably the prettiest baseball stadium I've been at.  Also the first one where vendors brought me a menu, came back to take my order, then delivered my food and swiped my credit card.  That was 1999.

 

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FWIW, I enjoyed going to Shea to see Met's games in the mid 80s.  Maybe it is because they were winning at the time.biggrin.gif

 

Yep.

Having had the misfortune of living in the DFW area for 26 years, I can safely say that it's one of the very, very few really cool things in Texas!  There's this, margaritas at the original Gloria's El Salvadoran Cantina in Dallas, and uhhhh.....umm......O-K, just those 2 things!

 

Plus, the Rangers now finally have a team to go along with their first-class, top 'o the line purty park. 

post #11 of 26
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Interesting that you have Oakland and The Astrodome in the good pile. I've never been to either, but many have complained about both. For Oakland, I think it's mostly the extreme foul area size.

I should probably have an asterisk by the Astrodome.  The only time I have been there was the first year it opened and I was 8 years old.  It was the first major league game I had ever been to and I was in awe.  Had I gone later in live it most definitely wouldn't have been on the good list.

 

Oakland Alameda is on the list because of the ease of getting to it on the subway, the magnificent weather and the very unique crowds.

post #12 of 26

AT&T Park in SF is an amazing place to watch a game - and not just for the views, but the whole vibe, quality food, craft beers, etc.  It absolutely lives up to the hype, although it is very expensive.

 

Chavez Ravine where the Dodgers play is underrated.

post #13 of 26

Thread hijack:  interesting article on old baseball cards from 1910 found in an Ohio attic recently.  There were 700 cards in pristine condition and likely worth millions:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/story/2012-07-10/Baseball-cards-in-Ohio-attic-might-fetch-millions/56133426/1

 

I've got some old cards including several Mantles and a ball with real (but fading) signatures by all the mid 1960s Dodgers players and Manager Alston.  Anyone else?

post #14 of 26
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The new ballpark in Arlington, TX does not have a retractable roof, correct? With CF closed in like that, I'd imagine that park could get quite toasty.

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I'm with you on PNC park - that's definitely my favorite. Part of the appeal has been the ease in getting great seats cheap - let's hope the Bucs don't get too good anytime soon and ruin that. wink.gif Camden Yards is probably my next favorite, although it's been too long since I've been down there.

I liked Nats park way better than I expected to.

Old Yankee Stadium was impressive - haven't been to the new one yet, but it comes off sterile on TV.

CBP in Philly is nice, especially considering what it replaced. At least it will be easier to get good seats in the near future.

Wrigley was fun, but my one and only time there was on a brutally cold night. Need to see a day game, in decent weather for the real experience.

I was at Fenway as a kid, but don't remember it very well.

Worst MLB park I was ever at = Olympic Stadium, Montreal...saw Darryl Strawberry hit a home run off the lining of the roof.

I'd love to go to San Francisco and LA and see games there.
post #16 of 26
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AT&T (SF), Chavez Ravine (LAD), Target Field (Minn) and Coors (Col) are tops on my bucket list.

 

Though it is more likely I get to CBP (Philly), Citi/New Yankee (NY) and US Cell (CWS) first, due to logistics. Already spending too much money on baseball this year.

 

Any minor league parks of note? I think the New Hampshire Fisher Cats park in Manchester, NH is pretty nice. Overlooks the Merrimac? River. Cheaper baseball alternative than Fenway for a family.

 

There is at least on ballpark right on the Mississippi. I think it is in Davenport, IA. Seen pictures of it.

 

Anyone been to the Iron Birds park in MD, just off I-95? Looks like a mini Camden Yards.

post #17 of 26
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Wrigley was fun, but my one and only time there was on a brutally cold night. Need to see a day game, in decent weather for the real experience.

 

After a Cubs win, the Go Cubs Go singalong is pretty sweet. Along with the W flag flying in CF. Ya see it later on that nite stumblin home after Murphy's Bleachers, Cubby Bear, Sluggers, etc. Plus no park sings Take Me Out to the Ballgame like they do in Wrigley. They do need to upgrade from Old Style, that stuff is rot gut.

post #18 of 26
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After a Cubs win, the Go Cubs Go singalong is pretty sweet. Along with the W flag flying in CF. Ya see it later on that nite stumblin home after Murphy's Bleachers, Cubby Bear, Sluggers, etc. Plus no park sings Take Me Out to the Ballgame like they do in Wrigley. They do need to upgrade from Old Style, that stuff is rot gut.

Cubs games were much more exciting back in the Harry Carry days.  Something extra special about an enthusiastic BLIND announcer.  Here's an example of something I remember him saying............

 

 

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post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by JohnL View Post

The new ballpark in Arlington, TX does not have a retractable roof, correct? With CF closed in like that, I'd imagine that park could get quite toasty.

 

Nah, but what's a little 106-degree heat between you and 45,000 of your closest friends?

Just makes things cozier...

post #20 of 26
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Any minor league parks of note?

I'm a big fan of the park in Reading - there's nothing particularly special about it, but its old and has a real authentic feel to it and the team puts on a good show, other than the game (the Crazy Hot Dog Vendor is genius). The park in Allentown is brand new but is underwhelming to me. I plan to get to Aberdeen, Wilmington, Trenton and Harrisburg soon given that they're all relatively close.
post #21 of 26

As mentioned,  I don't like irregular features, but here is an AAA icon up the street.  Above the blue monster in left next to the sports grill

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Not a bad seat in this place.  In fact, everything here would be big money seats at a major park.  7 bucks works for meicon14.gif

 

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Even at the back o the last row you're within 100 yards of the field

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post #22 of 26
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Nats vs the Brew Crew in Milwaukee last Thursday nite. Miller Field is a very interesting ballpark (only fan shaped retractable roof in MLB which merges the outside and inside in a bit of a weird manner.) But the park is situated a bit out in the muddle of nowhere - similar to FedEx field in DC area. Took the wildest party bus to/from the game I've ever been on in my life (and that says a lot in my depraved life.) http://www.milwaukeebrathouse.com/ OHSA would have shut it down in a second, but it was a wild, wild ride. DC police would have pulled it over before OHSA. But on to baseball.

 

View of outside the stadium from behind home plate. Notice the distinctive trusses for the retractable roof.

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It is not a classic retractable domed stadium, since there are windows down each foul line (and also in the outfield.) While opening the stadium up, this does cause very tough light conditions for the players, based on the time of day.

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CF views.

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Bad rez pic - cell phone zoom. Relic from old Milwaukee County Stadium. Bernie the Brewer slides down after the Brew Crew hits a homer. Only happened once during the Nats game after H-Rod was pitching.

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Another bad rez pic. The original mascot race, the Racing Sausages. Pittsburgh has it's Pierogies, Washington it's Presidents.

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post #23 of 26

Well those MLB parks are pretty nice, I must admit.   But do they have beer girls?

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post #24 of 26

We scored a foul ball tonight at the Bulls game.  First one ever for both of us.  Kid dug it out from under a bunch of adults scrambling to grab it, NICE!

 

post #25 of 26
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Sweet!
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Here is a hilarious play from the game last Friday.  Chance is still talking about it so I went to see if someone posted it.  Success!

 

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