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Poll Results: What are the most important attributes of hardcore skiers?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 6% (14)
    Sense of humor
  • 3% (8)
    Intelligence
  • 10% (24)
    Sensory awareness
  • 5% (12)
    Strength/power
  • 0% (0)
    Height/length of limbs
  • 0% (2)
    Ambidextrous
  • 2% (6)
    Sharp vision
  • 5% (12)
    Courage
  • 9% (21)
    Common sense
  • 7% (17)
    Cold tolerance
  • 14% (32)
    Confidence
  • 0% (1)
    Environmentalism
  • 6% (14)
    Optimism
  • 0% (1)
    Egotism
  • 11% (26)
    Perseverance
  • 3% (7)
    Mountain job
  • 3% (7)
    Winter unemployment
  • 0% (2)
    Ski sponsorship
  • 4% (11)
    Trust fund
  • 1% (4)
    Good looks
221 Total Votes  
post #31 of 60

I reject the notion that internet discussion in July makes one a hardcore skier, no, posting here just suggests an interest in skiing, and a fair amount of boredom.It isn't the same thing as climbing a mountain for a glorious hard won run, and then deciding half way down that you should head back up and ski the top half again, because a squall has blown in,  is puking mad huge amounts, and it will be ruined by the warm front forecast for the next day.

 

Dragging yourself out of bed after five hours of sleep, when your head feels cloudy and your body aches from skiing for the past 60 days in a row, just to get first tracks on three inches of dust on crust, takes perseverance. Riding that lift, when the wind is bringing the single digit temperatures into subzero wind chills, because the fresh snow is blower, and you know that the coming cold snap won't produce much more snow due to a lack of orographic lift,  takes perseverance. Dropping into a steep chute, knowing that it got baked in the sun, and churned up before freezing solid into a contorted coral reef, all because you get bored cruising groomers, and you don't want to feel like a sissy that only skis what's easy to avoid the unpleasantness of trying to set an edge in hell frozen over, that takes perseverance.

 

Edit to say that I find it silly that confidence is the leading response to this poll, what many (who lack it) see as confidence, to others (who posses it) seems to be just the natural consequence of having persevered.

post #32 of 60
Thread Starter 
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Dragging yourself out of bed after five hours of sleep, when your head feels cloudy and your body aches from skiing for the past 60 days in a row, just to get first tracks on three inches of dust on crust, takes perseverance. Riding that lift, when the wind is bringing the single digit temperatures into subzero wind chills, because the fresh snow is blower, and you know that the coming cold snap won't produce much more snow due to a lack of orographic lift,  takes perseverance. Dropping into a steep chute, knowing that it got baked in the sun, and churned up before freezing solid into a contorted coral reef, all because you get bored cruising groomers, and you don't want to feel like a sissy that only skis what's easy to avoid the unpleasantness of trying to set an edge in hell frozen over, that takes perseverance.

Sage words, sensei. 

post #33 of 60

I'd have to say my most "hard core" skiing days were done on massively modified garage sale gear skiing while trespassing on local farm land hills hiking for turns.  It didn't require any money at all, but creativity, time, perseverance, and huge tolerance of cold are the main attributes of a "hardcore" skier. 

 

Money has nothing to do with core.  In fact, money buys shortcuts around coreness.

 

Also, how good or bad you are has nothing to do with coreness.  It's your ability to show up and play in spite of it..

post #34 of 60
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I'd have to say my most "hard core" skiing days were done on massively modified garage sale gear skiing while trespassing on local farm land hills hiking for turns.  It didn't require any money at all, but creativity, time, perseverance, and huge tolerance of cold are the main attributes of a "hardcore" skier. 

 

Money has nothing to do with core.  In fact, money buys shortcuts around coreness.

 

Also, how good or bad you are has nothing to do with coreness.  It's your ability to show up and play in spite of it..

Have a long time ski friend that has worked in the ski industry for years. One of the most dedicated skiers I ever meet, but he's just not a high level skier and never will be.

post #35 of 60

What constitutes Hardcore? An Epic member who has to clear brush at his local area every summer for a season pass or the Epic member who lives mid-continent who either drives overnight or makes multi-plane flights to get to the larger mountains in the East and West or tough guys who ski regardless or the conditions or Raynaunds sufferers who ski despite their circulation problems and the number one hard core in my book are the sit skiers that participate despite their individual limitations. Lots of ways to look at hardcore.

post #36 of 60

I picked "Sharp Vision" as one of my preferred attributes because die hard skiers are always analyzing every terrain feature and physical structure they see anywhere to determine how fun it would be to ski and what the best line down it would be. 

 

I know you do it hahahaha!cool.gif

post #37 of 60

I think the attribute missing from this list: "loosey goosy-ness"

 

I ski with a lot of people visiting Jackson..  Most people are sooooo tense and firm in their stance that even the smallest jilt throws them off- for the day or week!

 

Being able to roll over something that would otherwise take you down in a great skill.

 

Tense=Bad

 

Loosey Goosey = Good

post #38 of 60
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Originally Posted by Skiing-in-Jackson View Post

I think the attribute missing from this list: "loosey goosy-ness"

 

I ski with a lot of people visiting Jackson..  Most people are sooooo tense and firm in their stance that even the smallest jilt throws them off- for the day or week!

 

Being able to roll over something that would otherwise take you down in a great skill.

 

Tense=Bad

 

Loosey Goosey = Good

icon14.gificon14.gif  Great point.  Can drugs help?

 

Maybe the answer is all or any of the above?  

 

Did the PSIA Academy about 4,000 years ago.  They took us down to DU to participate in skills testing they had been running for years on every kind of jock imaginable.  There were some really good skiers in our little band of misfits.  We set like 4 different individual test record bests, but no single person set more than one of those records.  

 

The point being is that maybe all good skiers play to their own strengths?  Part of where style comes from?

post #39 of 60
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Originally Posted by Stranger View Post

The point being is that maybe all good skiers play to their own strengths?  Part of where style comes from?

 

I agree, I'm especially good at skiing tall. wink.gif

post #40 of 60

Must love storm skiing.

post #41 of 60
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Must love storm skiing.

icon14.gif

 

Even a few hours in the driving rain.  Never bails on a day due to weather after arriving if the joint is open.

post #42 of 60
Hardcore = love

Not just any love but the love you have when something doesn't love you back and your love doesn't falter. I'm talking celebrity stalker love. Some of us have had our "love" hand our ass to us. We dusted ourselves off and came back for more.

Anybody can love someone when things are going good or even when they aren't feeling well. You have to be hardcore to love them after they bitch slap you telling you "You're not worthy of my love."

Some of us show up day after day, hoping to feel a glimspe of what our love gave us once or what we think she will. We know we might have to wait for acceptance, but it will come, right?
post #43 of 60

Always striving to improve.

post #44 of 60
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Originally Posted by L&AirC View Post

Hardcore = love
Not just any love but the love you have when something doesn't love you back and your love doesn't falter. I'm talking celebrity stalker love. Some of us have had our "love" hand our ass to us. We dusted ourselves off and came back for more.
Anybody can love someone when things are going good or even when they aren't feeling well. You have to be hardcore to love them after they bitch slap you telling you "You're not worthy of my love."
Some of us show up day after day, hoping to feel a glimspe of what our love gave us once or what we think she will. We know we might have to wait for acceptance, but it will come, right?

 

 

I like that!

 

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Always striving to improve.

 

Unfortunately, at this point in the game, I'm just trying to keep what I got?

post #45 of 60
Thread Starter 

Hmm. Confidence is beating out perseverance for #1, and both are far ahead of the other contenders...what do we make of that?

post #46 of 60
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Originally Posted by nolo View Post

Hmm. Confidence is beating out perseverance for #1, and both are far ahead of the other contenders...what do we make of that?

 


"We don't need no stinkin' common sense"

post #47 of 60

One observation is that the two attributes currently in the lead have nothing specific to do with skiing and could just as well explain any "hardcore" athlete or even salesperson.

Find the cure for ordinary - Squaw Valley

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post #48 of 60
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post

 


"We don't need no stinkin' common sense"

Without it you won't be there in 'Hard-Core' country too long.

 

The attributes for success don't change that much from endeavor to endeavor.  Most high level performers have been so in several fields.

 

Luck should be high on the list as in: Luck, where preparedness meets opportunity.

post #49 of 60
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Originally Posted by nolo View Post

Hmm. Confidence is beating out perseverance for #1, and both are far ahead of the other contenders...what do we make of that?

We have mostly male responders?

post #50 of 60
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

We have mostly male responders?

 

roflmao.gif

post #51 of 60
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Originally Posted by hirustler View Post

Passion

That would be my #1 pick. 

 

My second choices were optimism and a sense of humor. 

 

Mostly it needs to be something you really want to do. 

post #52 of 60

Never, ever, complaining about conditions (surface or atmospheric).  

post #53 of 60

since I'm not hardcore I can't know.......  

post #54 of 60
Thread Starter 

Hardcore is going to Tahoe for a white wedding when you are laid up and can't ski. 

post #55 of 60
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

since I'm not hardcore I can't know.......  

 

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Originally Posted by nolo View Post

Hardcore is going to Tahoe for a white wedding when you are laid up and can't ski. 

+1

post #56 of 60

I once thought my parents might have been hard core because they met at a ski resort, but getting married at a ski resort and then managing to have it dumping outsidesnowfalling.gif during the wedding in a dump lacking year---that is hard core.

post #57 of 60
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Originally Posted by nolo View Post

Hardcore is going to Tahoe for a white wedding when you are laid up and can't ski. 

 

 

haah, that's what you do for good friends.  icon14.gif

post #58 of 60

To be frank, you’ve got to be a bit “out there”… roflmao.gif

 

You’re a different bird if you’re hiking 10 miles RT under the August sun to ski 100’ of choppy glacier ice and soot.

post #59 of 60

looking at skills = balance

post #60 of 60
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

 

 

haah, that's what you do for good friends.  icon14.gif

 

Another good definition of hard core. 

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