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post #61 of 83
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Originally Posted by Christy319 View Post

 

Well said. And it sounds like we have the same type of luck on ski trips. I almost wonder if its best to pick a destination where I don't expect too much--that way I go in with low expectations, and am pleasantly surprised when I get, say, that powder day at Sun Valley (not that SV has bad snow. It just doesn't snow much.)

 

(Not that this matters for the skiing but c'mon, you guys know that Howe Sound, Haro Strait and the Strait of Juan de Fuch aren't the ocean, right? The ocean is the ocean, inland saltwater sounds and waterways are just that. Squamish is not on the ocean--you have to travel almost 200 miles to reach the ocean from Squamish. The Strait of Juan de Fuca is LONG).

The Sierra Nevada are about that far from the ocean as well.  There are mountains on Vancouver Island up to 2000m which do suck some moisture from the storms, as do the not nearly so high coastal mountains of California.  Compare that to the US Rockies--which are separated from the coast by a thousand miles of  Great Basin desert and are in the rain shadow of the Sierra.  Whistler and the Sierra both receive all or nearly all of their precipitation from  Pacific storms, unlike the Rockies, who's weather is influenced by the remnants of Pacific storms but also by weather coming down from Canada, from the south (especially in the summer), and from the Great Plains. Whistler and the Sierra would both be considered maritime ranges, as opposed to the continental ranges of the rockies. Maritime ranges tend to have warmer temperatures, more precipitation, and higher water content snow than continental ranges.  The operative word is "tends" which means no one knows what it's going to do on any given week.  

post #62 of 83

3) Ditch 'em both and go to Big Sky with Epic.  :-)

 

Those are two pretty phenomenal choices.

 

In terms of raw snow conditions, Whistler in January is probably more variable than Aspen in March (see: rain and fog during 2010 Olympics).  But Whistler would (I think) give you a better chance of a big dump.

 

The ski club/race league factors are more personal.

post #63 of 83
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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post

I've had great snow and lousy snow in Utah, lousy snow in Telluride and flew back to CA early where there was tons, poor snow at Jackson, great snow and fair snow at Taos, fair snow at Mammoth, great snow at Whistler, two winters ago went to Chamonix and got the worst snow in a generation, (and still had a great time), leaving behind California's epic winter. My cousin comes out to CA to ski with me a lot and we're about even on good snow trips and bad snow trips.  Point is any week skiing anywhere is a crap shoot. Pick another reason to decide--pick the mountain for it's terrain, hope it snows, and let the Coloradans and BCers have their pissing match. That's the best you can do.

 

I agree as well.  I have had western trips where it snowed all week and trips when it hadn't snowed in weeks. For the most part I plan my vacations around these criteria:

 

Where do I want to go?

When can I go?

How much will it cost?

 

And then I look at the various trips that are being offered through my ski club, the ski council or other area ski clubs in our area.  I have always found that a group trip gives you the most bang for your buck.  I then chose a trip that best meets my criteria and then hope for the best snow wise.

 

Rick G

post #64 of 83
Thread Starter 

Did I happen to mention that my very sweet but non skiing wife has offered to buy me a day of Heli skiing at Whistler for our anniversary (last weekend).  Looks like Whisler might win out on this one.

 

We shall see as I just heard from my cousin who I was hoping would join me and he can not do Whistler in Januaary.  Bummer  Decisons, decisions...

 

Rick G

post #65 of 83
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Originally Posted by Christy319 View Post

(Not that this matters for the skiing but c'mon, you guys know that Howe Sound, Haro Strait and the Strait of Juan de Fuch aren't the ocean, right? The ocean is the ocean, inland saltwater sounds and waterways are just that. Squamish is not on the ocean--you have to travel almost 200 miles to reach the ocean from Squamish. The Strait of Juan de Fuca is LONG).

 

Practically speaking - neither Whistler nor the Cascade ski areas are anywhere near 200 miles to the "ocean". Yeah, you can be all technical and draw lines to the Olympic coast or Tofino or wherever - but the combo of proximity to saltwater and the lay of the land in the neighborhood creates some unique ocean-influenced moist weather patterns. Whistler is not the interior BC. The Cascade passes and west slopes are not "continental". So practically speaking, the coast range mountains are sitting on the ocean's edge...

post #66 of 83
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Good call, but I think I'll let it ride in May.  You just never know, Silverton might get slammed or the front range may get an upslope?  It's a big state with a lot of different weather patterns.

Then I'd also pick first week in March for a sixer of Three Floyds!

 

I'll put those weeks on my calendar & we can compare snow reports!

post #67 of 83
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Originally Posted by spindrift View Post

 

I'll put those weeks on my calendar & we can compare snow reports!

 

Sure, or we could switch my week, to whichever week the op chooses.  Then we would have at least one first person report?

 

To the OP:  Just pick the one you want?   Nobody can tell you which one's going to have better conditions!

post #68 of 83

Oh Grasshopper (Rick G), you find yourself in a most perplexing dilemma with your apparent considerations. Should you follow your physical being (Aspen) or emotional attachment (Whistler)? There is no right or wrong answer my friend. You must first weigh all of your options carefully and then choose wisely. How one chooses to define themselves is entirely up to them.  Do you chase glory, power & accomplishment? Or did you get into the ski racing, not for wins and losses, but for fun, comaraderie and the feeling of peace & freedom one gets from gliding down slick snow covered terrain? Is that blowing dust you see in the distance or the fine spectacle of falling powder floating from the sky? Do not shirk your responsibility to yourself for you are the greatest one impacted.

post #69 of 83
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Oh Grasshopper (Rick G), you find yourself in a most perplexing dilemma with your apparent considerations. Should you follow your physical being (Aspen) or emotional attachment (Whistler)? There is no right or wrong answer my friend. You must first weigh all of your options carefully and then choose wisely. How one chooses to define themselves is entirely up to them.  Do you chase glory, power & accomplishment? Or did you get into the ski racing, not for wins and losses, but for fun, comaraderie and the feeling of peace & freedom one gets from gliding down slick snow covered terrain? Is that blowing dust you see in the distance or the fine spectacle of falling powder floating from the sky? Do not shirk your responsibility to yourself for you are the greatest one impacted.

 

 

Dude,

 

Like, I'm a stoner from the 70's, What are you trying to tell me?  In English.  LOL

 

Rick G

 

PS  Great post!  cool.gif

post #70 of 83
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Dude,

 

Like, I'm a stoner from the 70's

I would think you've just answered your question tongue.gif

post #71 of 83
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Originally Posted by JHoback View Post

Oh Grasshopper (Rick G), you find yourself in a most perplexing dilemma with your apparent considerations. Should you follow your physical being (Aspen) or emotional attachment (Whistler)? There is no right or wrong answer my friend. You must first weigh all of your options carefully and then choose wisely. How one chooses to define themselves is entirely up to them.  Do you chase glory, power & accomplishment? Or did you get into the ski racing, not for wins and losses, but for fun, comaraderie and the feeling of peace & freedom one gets from gliding down slick snow covered terrain? Is that blowing dust you see in the distance or the fine spectacle of falling powder floating from the sky? Do not shirk your responsibility to yourself for you are the greatest one impacted.

 

May the Force be with you.

 

fixed it.

post #72 of 83

Will these help ? http://www.youtube.com/user/G3FORC3/videos

This is all straight-up skiing. No big physics. No B.S.

Some vids are from two years ago and some from last season... totaling 260 days  (with only a dozen days that didn't work - lines at Christmas, or fog, or snot with bad grooming ).

Also there are some Kokanee Races... GS's last about a minute and 60 gates... about as good as civilian races gets.

post #73 of 83
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Originally Posted by DesiredUsername View Post

 

fixed it.

 

Now that I get!  LOL

 

Ski on!

 

Rick G

post #74 of 83
Thread Starter 

For those who are still curious, I have made THE DECISION!

 

I have verbally committed (won't be official till I send deposit) for.........................

 

 

Are your ready?

 

 

 

WHISTLER!!!!!

 

 

If you have been reading my thread and dilemma, I have been conflicted over giving up the possibility of winning my race division by missing 4 races to do my club trip to Whistler.  Well, I just decided to change my focus for this winter.

 

This winter I am going to improve my free skiing.  I plan on doing that at Whistler by taking a 2 day Extremely Canadian Clinic  2 Day Clinic | Extremely Canadian and then finish it off by doing a day of Heli Skiing  Whistler Heli-Skiing - Official Website - British Columbia, Canada.  That ought to bring my game up a notch!

 

I will still race, and I will get satisfaction in any race that I place or win plus I will put an extra emphasis on the last race weekend of the season in early March.  That is our only combined weekend with our only Super G at Bristol Mountain in NY with their huge (for around here) 1200 vert.  After what I plan on doing at Whistler, that 1200' Super G will be childs play.  Those guys have no idea what they are going to be up against!  LOL

 

So,did I make the right decision?

 

Rick G

post #75 of 83
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Originally Posted by rickg View Post

 

 

WHISTLER!!!!!

 

So,did I make the right decision?

Not sure, but either way I think you are going to be ok.roflmao.gif

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post #76 of 83

Being a therapist, I will ask you:

 

"Rick, how do you feel about deciding to go to Whistler?"

post #77 of 83

Whistler.

 

You can still "win" the races you attend, even if you don't "earn" enough points to "win" the "A Vet Title", whatever that means.

 

I guess I'm not very competitive.th_dunno-1[1].gif

post #78 of 83

Paging SHREDHEAD...

 
Based on recent posts and snow conditions, I think the OP made a fine call. But that aside, we have some unfinished business... biggrin.gif
 
 
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post

 

I'll take that bet for $500,000.00!  Name your week?

 

 

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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post

 

 

Good call, but I think I'll let it ride in May.  You just never know, Silverton might get slammed or the front range may get an upslope?  It's a big state with a lot of different weather patterns.

Then I'd also pick first week in March for a sixer of Three Floyds!

 

March is here. And I'm pretty sure the PNW (aka the Cascades, just to avoid confusion) is faring better than anyplace I've seen numbers on in CO. Both based on snowfall and settled pack. So, about that sixer... But then let's not worry about the small things. I eagerly await May. Let's have your people get in touch with my people so I can accept a transfer of that larger sum when the time comes wink.gif

 

 

Here are a couple shots from WA yesterday:

 

 

 

 

 

And a few other random ones from the past couple weeks or so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OK, I confess - the snow yesterday looked good, but there was a decently nasty crust underneath in most places. Still, it made for some decent fun and we found a few pockets of goodness. 

 

And in all seriousness - I hope CO gets a ton more precip. Snow or rain. Serious stuff going on water-wise. Kind of getting to where even friendly bets & ribbing will not be in the funny zone much longer. Maybe we are at that point as it is - but I figured I'd better get some in while I sort of could smile.gif

post #79 of 83
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Originally Posted by spindrift View Post

 But if you are looking for really good snow (and lots of it) along with great terrain - I'd bet on Whistler (or the PNW in general) ahead of all of CO put together almost any week of any random season.

 

 

The skiing is really good in Colorado right now too!   Aspen has 6" new today, Crested Butte 11".

post #80 of 83

Is that a general statement or a formal contestation of bet outcome? biggrin.gif

 

[note:  I'd like to state for the record that IMO, all 11 inches does at CB is camouflage the shark fins... wink.gif]

post #81 of 83
Yeah, I was thinking six inches of fluff can be useless if coverage is sketchy to begin with. Are the rocks covered yet?
post #82 of 83

Plus 6" the next day and around 45" in the last two weeks.   Claiming victory on the third day the week,  based on only the top 2000 ft of Whistler, which people were waiting in line an hour to access?

Let it go,.  Whistler's had a better season, but it's not better every week of any random season.

post #83 of 83
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Originally Posted by spindrift View Post

 
 

 Let's have your people get in touch with my people so I can accept a transfer of that larger sum when the time comes wink.gif

 

 

Second week of May,  12" New at A Basin. 

 

Unfortunately neither one of us is enjoying it.

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