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2011-12: How Bad Was It?

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In a few past discussions I've noted that we have not had an across-the-board bad snow year in North America since 1991-92, fairly impressive since there were 4 of them in the 16 years through that season. 2011-12 does not make the cut on an equal region rated basis either mainly because 2 regions (Pacific Northwest and western Canada) had excellent seasons well above average. 1980-81, 1986-87 and 1991-92 stand out because no regions were above average, similar to 1981-82 and 2010-11 being the only seasons with no regions being below average.

1976-77 is still prominent despite being a huge season in the East because it was so extreme in the West. All 7 western regions were bad and for 5 of them it was the lowest overall season in 40+ years.

Unlike last year 2011-12 comes out differently if you weight by skier visits (I'm using 15 million for the natural snowfall relevant Northeast). The 2 highest regions for visits (the other being Front Range Colorado) are also the 2 with the worst snowfall. So by skier visit weighting 2011-12 comes out similar to 1986-87 and 1991-92 with only 1980-81 and 1976-77 being worse.

Details on the low snow regions:
Northeast
Only 1979-80 was as low for snowfall, and given the March meltdown I think there's a case for 2011-12 being qualitatively the worst ever season for the Northeast.

Northern and Central Colorado
By snowfall 2011-12 is the worst, but there are a lot more areas with complete season data now than in 1976-77 and 1980-81. There's quite of bit of monthly data for those seasons, and comparing those I would say that 2011-12 was about the same as 1980-81 with 1976-77 being not quite as bad. During the latter 2 seasons the early season drought persisted through most of January but March snowfall was actually above average compared to the record low this year.

California
With Sierra volatility there have been 7 lower snow years than 2011-12. But since half the snow came in March qualitatively it was the 3rd worst behind 1976-77 and 1990-91 (more total snow but 3/4 of it in March).

Utah
1976-77 was clearly the worst but 2011-12 is similar to about 6 other seasons next in line. For slowest start through mid-January 2011-12 was probably 3rd worst behind only 1980-81 also.

Southern and Western Colorado
3 seasons were much worse and another 3 similar to 2011-12. The Southwest was the only region with decent December snow in 2011, so qualitatively those areas may have had better overall skiing than the raw numbers would indicate. I include Aspen and Crested Butte in this region but they were much worse than the areas farther south and more comparable to the areas farther east along I-70.

The U.S. Northern Rockies were overall close to average, though most areas were below average offset by a few near the Canadian border that were far above average.

post #2 of 100

Can you provide a legend for the color coding?

post #3 of 100
Thread Starter 

Blue = 120+%

Green = 108-119%

Yellow = 93-107%

Orange = 81-92%

Red = 80% or less

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

post #4 of 100
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Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post

Southern and Western Colorado
3 seasons were much worse and another 3 similar to 2011-12. The Southwest was the only region with decent December snow in 2011, so qualitatively those areas may have had better overall skiing than the raw numbers would indicate. I include Aspen and Crested Butte in this region but they were much worse than the areas farther south and more comparable to the areas farther east along I-70.

 

 

I definitely think that the snow we received even as early as October is what helped to minimize any noticeable effect of the below-average snowfall for the season. 

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Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post

Blue = 120+%

Green = 108-119%

Yellow = 93-107%

Orange = 81-92%

Red = 80% or less

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
This seems to be becoming the new standard -- a "stoplight" chart running from red to green, except it goes to eleven.

post #7 of 100

I don't ski in north america. I ski in UT.  

post #8 of 100

From my perspective it's hard to argue California had and epic awful season.  After some early snow in October that wasn't enough to open ski areas, it was not only completely dry, but warm into December, when it became cold enough to make some snow.  Seasonal passes remained open through mid-January with no snow clearing.  A couple weak systems opened more terrain after that, and things really got going just as the Epicski Gathering started. 

 

This season gets a D, but at least it didn't completely fail.

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Added a pie chart showing my past 4 seasons worth of ski days (post my 2008 ACL reconstruction).

 

The crowds were noticeably down in the New England due to people NOT seeing snow on the ground in Boston, but my home area in NH makes ample snow and grooms it well. While there were clearly a limited number of fresh natural snow days, there was certainly plenty of good skiing to be had - such that I got in 59 ski days (including some season ending May ski days in the Pacific Northwest where there was a banner late ski season).


Edited by CHRISfromRI - 7/9/12 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by CHRISfromRI View Post

The crowds were noticeably down in the New England due to people NOT seeing snow on the ground in Boston, but my home area in NH makes ample snow and grooms it well. While there were clearly a limited number of fresh natural snow days, there was certainly plenty of good skiing to be had - such that I got in 59 ski days (including some season ending May ski days in the Pacific Northwest where there was a banner late ski season).

 

No snow in Boston in one thing, no snow north of the border in places like Ottawa and Montreal is another. The season started late and ended early in the East. One of the shortest ski season in memory. For the first time in at least 38 years, not one Northeast ski area had lifts spinning in May.

 

 

 

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Northeast
Only 1979-80 was as low for snowfall, and given the March meltdown I think there's a case for 2011-12 being qualitatively the worst ever season for the Northeast.

 

 

1979-80 was really bad in the East. Snowmaking wasn't as common in Quebec ski areas; many ski areas didn't open until way after Christmas. This season was probably warmer. Like I said before, measuring snow accumulation is only one factor if the season sucks or not.

 

If you look at 1991-92 which was also at 85% of normal in the NE, the season were very different. Skied Tuckerman and Gray Rocks in May and Killington twice in June. 

 

If you have seen Tuckerman's pics from this Spring, you know that it looked way worst that these:

 

 

Tuckerman Ravine NH : May 7, 1992

http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/tuckerman-ravine-nh-may-7-1992/

 

Killington VT : Friday May 22, 1992

http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/killington-vt-friday-may-22-1992/

 

Killington VT : Monday June 1, 1992

http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/killington-vt-monday-june-1-1992/

 

Killington VT : Thursday June 11, 1992

http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/killington-vt-thursday-june-11-1992/

 

 

So 1991-92's 85% looked way better than 2011-12's 84%. 

post #11 of 100

Tony,

 

Can you run a quick standard deviation by area on your chart to see which area has the most consistent snow. I know that does not mean the best great snow but it would be interesting to know which areas have the most consistent snow accumulations.

post #12 of 100
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Originally Posted by CHRISfromRI View Post

ski seasons.JPG

 

Added a pie chart showing my past 4 seasons worth of ski days (post my 2008 ACL reconstruction).

 

The crowds were noticeably down in the New England due to people NOT seeing snow on the ground in Boston, but my home area in NH makes ample snow and grooms it well. While there were clearly a limited number of fresh natural snow days, there was certainly plenty of good skiing to be had - such that I got in 59 ski days (including some season ending May ski days in the Pacific Northwest where there was a banner late ski season).

I like the way you think.  But My Pie Chart was better. biggrin.gif

Even in a marginal snow year, there is still skiing to be done. 

 

We always go to Abasin for Mothers Day weekend and got caught this year with them closing the week before Mother's Day.  Still......I got 88 days in. 

Dookey posted a link for his ski day at Mt Lassen at the end of May.......He got fresh pow!!

 

 

While it was not a good snow year for a majority of the Continent, many of us found a way to enjoy what we had and totally embraced the amazing days we were blessed with. 

post #13 of 100
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While it was not a good snow year for a majority of the Continent, many of us found a way to enjoy what we had and totally embraced the amazing days we were blessed with. 

 

Actually I think the season affects the more hardcore folks more than us casual skiers.

 

My season was quite good. It wasn't the highest number of day (wasn't planning on such anyway, work was in the way) but not particularly low either. Because I don't ski that many days, I was able to shift my days (and location) to when (and where) there's good snow.

 

What really, really helped was the bunch of forecast sites, plus real time reports from skiers like on here. That made it possible to made the best of the limited number of days I do ski. The percentage of powder days vs overall ski days has gone steadily up the last couple years. Even though the number of powder days for the mountains was low last season, I hit more of them so my number was up! :)
 

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Personally my ski days were down almost 30% from an average of 40 days to only 28 this season. The reason was lack of natural snow in the east.

 

 

STATES REPORT LOWER SKIER DAYS
Utah announced that it had 3,802,536 million skier day visits during the 2011-12 ski season -- down 10 percent from the previous season’s numbers

New Hampshire hosted 1.9 million skier visits, down 21/5 from 2.35 million in 2010/11. The state had its lowest snow fall totals in 46 years, resulting in last season being the first time in six years that New Hampshire saw fewer than 2 million ski/snowboard visits

Vermont Ski Areas recorded 3,903,171 skier visits, 11% off of 2010/11’s 4,365,906 visits.

Colorado Ski Country USA (CSCUSA) announced that its 22 member resorts hosted an estimated 6.16 million skier visits during the 2011-12 ski season, representing a decrease of 11.4 percent. These figures do not include those resorts owned by Vail Resorts -- which is not a member of CSCUSA.
 

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Just to add to the information, found the following on the tourism site for Montana:

 

 

 

All Ski Area Visits for Years: 2008 - 2011
Years Visits Percent Change
08-09 1,326,437 n/a
09-10 1,357,249 2%
10-11 1,480,602 9%
11-12 1,393,216 -6%

*Data Source: USDA Forest Service, Northern Region and individual ski areas

 

Apparently some were more afflicted than others.  (left out the smaller areas)

 

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I know we practically lost December.  

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Actually I think the season affects the more hardcore folks more than us casual skiers.

 

My season was quite good. It wasn't the highest number of day (wasn't planning on such anyway, work was in the way) but not particularly low either. Because I don't ski that many days, I was able to shift my days (and location) to when (and where) there's good snow.

 

What really, really helped was the bunch of forecast sites, plus real time reports from skiers like on here. That made it possible to made the best of the limited number of days I do ski. The percentage of powder days vs overall ski days has gone steadily up the last couple years. Even though the number of powder days for the mountains was low last season, I hit more of them so my number was up! :)
 

"us casual skiers" ?  

Really?  

Not sure how you differentiate between casual and hard core, but I really don't consider myself "casual".

Maybe there's a category in between, like "lunatic skier"? 

Dookey, me, and my circle of friends got on snow a lot.  

If you have a real passion for it, you'll find a way to do it, much like ChrisfromRI

post #17 of 100
Thread Starter 

Standard deviations:

California 31%

Pacific Northwest 21%

Interior Western Canada 16%
US Northern Rockies 19%
Utah 21%

Northern & Central Colorado 21%

Southern & Western Colorado 23%

Northeast 17%

 

Average 8 Regions 14%

 

In terms of individual ski areas Grand Targhee is almost in a class by itself for consistency.  The environment Canada weather station at Mt. Fidelity near Rogers' Pass is also very consistent. 

 

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So 1991-92's 85% looked way better than 2011-12's 84%.

Mix & match:  North America average was 77% in 1991-92 and 84% in 2011-12.  The Northeast was 85% in 1991-92 and 65% in 2011-12.  Northeast was 58% in 1979-80 and no other Northeast season is under 75%. 

 

The Kottke report had US total skier visits at 60.5 million in 2010-11 (tied with 2007-08 for highest in their records) and 2011-12 at 51 million.  The season-over-season decline is matched only by 1980-81.   One would presume that western Canada was very strong in skier visits while eastern Canada was likely down as much as the US Northeast.

post #18 of 100
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Not sure how you differentiate between casual and hard core, but I really don't consider myself "casual".

Simple, if you're not casual, you're hardcore!

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Sibhusky raises an excellent point.  That is that TWO totally off the charts spring months may not make up for a piss poor Christmas-New Years holiday break.  It's great for seasoned, die hard skiers, but terrible for the resort management and their bottom line.

 

Another factor to look at is the post season apocalyptic forest fire aftermath that followed this ski season in to early summer.  What are the odds of fall mudslides and winter avalanches with all of that foliage destroyed?

 

CO, AZ, NM, UT are still better than most of the rest of the USA for skiing on a fair to good day, but I'd honestly be looking farther north for a retirement ski house based in the recent climate trends.

post #20 of 100

I remember 76-77.  It was horrible, I was watching for it snow and we in the PNW had extended cold sunny days with frost in the morning.  I remember wondering if I could ski on frost (hey, I was 14) .  After 1980, I don't recall the winters, I wasn't skiing much.

 

As it turns out, for 2011-2012 I had a good year.  A great year, even.  Coming back after a broken tib-fib spiral fracture in 2010-2011, I got close to 40 skiing days this past year, probably the most I've ever skied.   Part of that was the amount of snow in the PNW and part of that was my desire to get on the snow as often as I could.

 

I had a ski trip over Christmas to Schweitzer, and got some new snow while there.  Got both a bluebird day and a major storm at Bachelor, on my way Tahoe for the Gathering. During the Gathering it dumped 3 of the 6 days I was there. 

 

Since Crystal was open through July 1, last weekend was the first time since Nov 19 2011 that I haven't had lift-serviced skiing available.

 

So I guess I got a very good year out of 2011-2012.  I am not trying to gloat, I really feel bad that most of the continent had a crappy year and I hope next year is back to normal snow levels.  As Tony's chart indicates, it's unusual for a region to have two or more red seasons (below 80% of historic average snowfall) in consecutive years, and has so far never happened for the Equal Region Average.

post #21 of 100
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Originally Posted by Tony Crocker View Post

Standard deviations:

California 31%

Pacific Northwest 21%

Interior Western Canada 16%
US Northern Rockies 19%
Utah 21%

Northern & Central Colorado 21%

Southern & Western Colorado 23%

Northeast 17%

 

Average 8 Regions 14%

 

Mix & match:  North America average was 77% in 1991-92 and 84% in 2011-12.  The Northeast was 85% in 1991-92 and 65% in 2011-12.  Northeast was 58% in 1979-80 and no other Northeast season is under 75%.


Haven't had a stats class in over 10 years, but how is it that sigma for all 8 regions is lower than even the lowest of each of the 8?  Wouldn't some of those local standard deviations have to be below 14 for the average to be equal to 14?

 

Edit, looks like your excel table says 24% for total sd (but that is sd of the other scores, not sd of the sds).  That happens to me tooredface.gif

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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post

 

Actually I think the season affects the more hardcore folks more than us casual skiers.

 

My season was quite good. It wasn't the highest number of day (wasn't planning on such anyway, work was in the way) but not particularly low either. Because I don't ski that many days, I was able to shift my days (and location) to when (and where) there's good snow.

 

What really, really helped was the bunch of forecast sites, plus real time reports from skiers like on here. That made it possible to made the best of the limited number of days I do ski. The percentage of powder days vs overall ski days has gone steadily up the last couple years. Even though the number of powder days for the mountains was low last season, I hit more of them so my number was up! :)
 

"us casual skiers" ?  

Really?  

Not sure how you differentiate between casual and hard core, but I really don't consider myself "casual".

Maybe there's a category in between, like "lunatic skier"? 

Dookey, me, and my circle of friends got on snow a lot.  

If you have a real passion for it, you'll find a way to do it, much like ChrisfromRI

I'm pretty sure she was referring to herself, not the rest of us.  

post #23 of 100
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Mix & match:  North America average was 77% in 1991-92 and 84% in 2011-12.  The Northeast was 85% in 1991-92 and 65% in 2011-12.  Northeast was 58% in 1979-80 and no other Northeast season is under 75%.

 

Oops, deep red colour cells and lowres makes those numbers hard to read. Thanks.

 

As mentioned by a few others and in-person with you, there isn't really a correlation between how many days I ski in one season and snow accumulation. My ski seasons is more dictated by health, work and generally life issues than snow.

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It has been my non-scientific seat of the pants observations over the years that has lead me to believe that Interior Western Canada offers the most consistent good conditions year in year out. The bad snow years in Interior Western Canada are usually not as bad as the bad years in the rest of Western N.A. and the best years in IWC are not as good as the best years in the rest of Western N.A.

 

If I counted correctly, with a tie for least ``reds`` at 9 (well below average) and with the least ``blues`` at 3 (well above average) and the lowest deviation at 16%, Tony`s numbers seem to back the above contention.

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Wow, that only confirms what I've thought for decades.....GT is the hands down place to book a trip even in the worst snow year. 

 

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In terms of individual ski areas Grand Targhee is almost in a class by itself for consistency. 

post #26 of 100
Thread Starter 
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Edit, looks like your excel table says 24% for total sd (but that is sd of the other scores, not sd of the sds).

The last line of the chart is not a total line, it's 2011-12.  The 24% standard deviation is the deviation among regions within that season.  No surprise it was 4th highest sd with 2 strong regions and 5 bad ones.

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Haven't had a stats class in over 10 years, but how is it that sigma for all 8 regions is lower than even the lowest of each of the 8?

To the extent that regions are not closely correlated, standard deviation of the total will be lower than the pieces.  It's the same principle as reduction of investment risk by diversification of asset classes.  As with investments true diversification is not that easy to achieve because most of the western US regions are fairly well correlated with each other.  The Pacific Northwest and western Canada are the western regions that aren't.  

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The bad snow years in Interior Western Canada are usually not as bad as the bad years in the rest of Western N.A. and the best years in IWC are not as good as the best years in the rest of Western N.A.

I would remind DanoT of 2001 and 2005, which were pretty bad in the Pacific Northwest and western Canada.  That same Crystal Mt. I skied on July 1 this year was closed for lack of snow cover from mid-January to mid-March of 2005.  As a resident of California it is perhaps no accident I spend ski time in western Canada nearly every year since 1997.  I did feel somewhat foolish being up there in January 2005 skiing thin or rain-saturated snow when my home mountain Mammoth already had a 14-foot base.  


Edited by Tony Crocker - 7/9/12 at 3:12pm
post #27 of 100
Thread Starter 

In terms of reliability it's the intersection of high average and low standard deviation that matters.  The standard deviation tends to be consistent within geographic region (may be smaller than my divisions).   Targhee's 21% standard deviation is low but not exceptional.  Big Sky's is 19%.  But when Targhee's average is 472 inches and Big Sky's only 257, Big Sky is unquestionably less reliable.  Other factors also enter into Targhee's unsurpassed early season record, mainly its more intermediate terrain that is fully covered by a 4-foot base.  Alta's standard deviation is 20% but it has some steep sectors that need more coverage than Targhee so we all remember a handful of seasons where those sectors weren't skiable until after the holidays.  At places like Jackson and Snowbird  with predominantly steep terrain early season can be speculative despite snow statistics that are excellent.

 

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The bad snow years in Interior Western Canada are usually not as bad as the bad years in the rest of Western N.A. and the best years in IWC are not as good as the best years in the rest of Western N.A.

 

From a weather geography standpoint there are at least 3 distinct subregions here.  The areas in the region from the Okanagan to Roger's Pass are the most consistent, with sd's in the 16-19% range.  However Sun Peaks and the Okanagan areas average under 300 inches.  Mt. Fidelity and the snowcat/heli areas in the Selkirks/Monashees are 400+ inches with excellent consistency.   The Kootenay areas closer to the US. border get 300+ but sd's are in the 22-25% range.   The Alberta areas are mostly under 250 inches with sd's in the 22-25% range, but they are higher, colder and rarely get rain like some of the B.C. areas near the border or west of Rogers' Pass.   To the extent that the 3 subregions get different weather patterns the combination of the 3 (16% sd) has a distinctly lower sd than individual areas do, on the same principle as the total having lower sd than any of the 8 regions.

 

U.S. Northern Rockies areas other than Targhee and Big Sky are in the 22-25% sd range.  This region is also spread out so its collective 19% sd is lower than most of the areas.

 

Utah by contrast to the above 2 regions is compact, except for Brian Head (sd = 27%).  Individual Wasatch sd's are 20-23% and the collective sd is 21%.

 

In Northern and Central  Colorado  individual area sd's are 20-26% and the collective is 21%.

In Southern and Central  Colorado  individual area sd's are 22-28% and the collective is 23%. 

FYI Taos sd is 29%, only a bit more volatile than southern Colorado.

 

At Pacific Northwest ski elevations, Alyeska and Whistler/Blackcomb have sd's 23-25%,  Washington State and Mt. Hood 27-29% and Mt. Bachelor 32%.  But remember all of these places get 350+ inches.  Subregions are spread out, so collective sd is 21%.  Reliability issues relate more to low altitude rain than drought (mid-season 2005 being the outlier exception).

 

North Tahoe areas on the Sierra Crest have sd's 29-32%.  East of the Sierra Crest and south of Tahoe sd's range from 34-39%.  Arizona's sd is 39% and Southern California's is 50%.  Collective sd is 31%.

 

For those of you considering skiing in South America, Las Lenas sd is 46% and Portillo's is 56%.   Since average in both cases is only a bit over 250 inches, that's why I recommend not committing $ until snow is on the ground.

 

In the Northeast Vermont sd's are 19-23% while New Hampshire and Maine's are 28-34%.  Collective sd is 17%.  Northeast reliability is more related to temperature/rain than drought.


Edited by Tony Crocker - 7/9/12 at 4:09pm
post #28 of 100
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The bad snow years in Interior Western Canada are usually not as bad as the bad years in the rest of Western N.A. and the best years in IWC are not as good as the best years in the rest of Western N.A.

Getting past the numbers, there being 3 subregions up there enhances reliability.  If DanoT in Sun Peaks can get to Kootenay areas like Red/Whitewater or to Banff/Lake Louise, there will be relatively few seasons that all of those will be bad.  Of course driving times among those subregions can be comparable to Utah skiers driving into Colorado or the Northern Rockies.

 

For the more typical avid skier in a metro area distant from prime ski destiantions, the only possible lesson here is to consider planning multiple ski trips into different regions, specifically one more northern and one more southern.   But the best strategy, as recommended on Epic by me and many others, is to hold off committing $ until the season starts and you know who has early snow and thus will at least have reasonable coverage.

post #29 of 100
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CO, AZ, NM, UT are still better than most of the rest of the USA for skiing on a fair to good day, but I'd honestly be looking farther north for a retirement ski house based in the recent climate trends.

In terms of ski area snowfall there is no climate trend in my ski area snowfall data.  The data starts in the 1970's and nearly everyone agrees that temperatures warmed in the 1980's and 1990's  and have generally maintained a plateau since then at a higher level than the 1970's.    As noted in the original post the 4 worst seasons were all before 1993 and the best season was 2010-11 (with 2007-08 being among the next 3 best), so there is no case that snowfall in North American ski areas is in decline.   If you're concerned about temperatures look to altitude, as the lowest altitude places get occasional rain now and more of the precipitation might flip from snow to rain if temperatures resume rising.   So regions like Colorado and Alberta that get essentially zero winter rain look safest to me if warming is your concern. Or choose the highest altitude places in other regions (Alta/Snowbird/Mammoth/Bachelor/Big Sky/Targhee). 

post #30 of 100

Accumulations are only a piece of the puzzle here in the rain-prone East. Even when it doesn't actually rain, we have strings of high-humidity days in the 40s or 50s, that just eat the snow. As several people "from away" have observed with surprise here over the years, these episodes tend to come on with almost laughable reliability immediately after a big storm. (This is exactly what happened this year. We finally got a couple of dumps at the very end of February, and then in early March we lost all that and more with a couple of wet days ... this was even BEFORE The week of 70+ weather in the middle of the month, that drove the stake into the heart of the year.) So, subjectively, after a lifetime of amateur but highly interested observation in New England, how much snow FALLS here seems second in importance to how much MELTS. I'll take a year of moderate accumulation and minimal melting over a year of high accumulation and high melting, because snow quality is better overall and the season lasts longer.

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