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post #31 of 35
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What I ended up with is shell pants than a fleece pants I found on Marshall's for $15 bucks... I think it's under armour and two lightweight baselayers one ends right after the knee a smartwool and the other one is a patagonia that goes all the way to the ankles and I had to pull up, not that much of a trouble... but at least companies are showing up with these knee high baselayers. I have never had to use both the fleece and merino baselayers at the same time...

post #32 of 35

Shouldn't "base layer" always be "under"?  Perhaps someone could invent a long john to socks product that actually zips around where the sock begins and the long john leg ends?  I'm one of the few that is content to have two layers where the long john and sock overlap. But, I also have really skinny calves.  If I wasn't I'd just fold the long john back up to where the sock ends at the top.  It is the mid layer that can go over the boot if needed, in addition to the pants gator for me.

 

Finally, what's up with calling long johns "base layers"?  Is that anything like calling a truck or station wagon an "SUV" to make it sound somehow more modern and trendy??

post #33 of 35
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Shouldn't "base layer" always be "under"?  Perhaps someone could invent a long john to socks product that actually zips around where the sock begins and the long john leg ends?  I'm one of the few that is content to have two layers where the long john and sock overlap. But, I also have really skinny calves.  If I wasn't I'd just fold the long john back up to where the sock ends at the top.  It is the mid layer that can go over the boot if needed, in addition to the pants gator for me.

 

Finally, what's up with calling long johns "base layers"?  Is that anything like calling a truck or station wagon an "SUV" to make it sound somehow more modern and trendy??

For me maybe it's because I started skiing past season, this is my second season skiing. So I call baselayers because that's what they call right now. But I still call long johns what I use around my home in the winter, because I used to have that since I was a kid biggrin.gif

post #34 of 35
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

Shouldn't "base layer" always be "under"?  Perhaps someone could invent a long john to socks product that actually zips around where the sock begins and the long john leg ends?  I'm one of the few that is content to have two layers where the long john and sock overlap.

 

I don't get it.  If you had a layer that went over (or under) both the socks and long johns to cover the 'seam', you'd still have two layers of fabric there.  I just tuck the very bottom of my base layer pants into the top of my socks (which is above the boot cuff) and everything stays in place.

 

This is just a non-issue.  If your socks are falling down, get ones with better elastic.  If your base layers are bunching up around the top of the boot, get base layers that are the right length or cut down the ones you have.  If you don't want wind/snow getting in the bottom of your pants, get ski pants with built in gaiters (or use external ones).

 

Base layers that are loose enough to pull over your ski boots will be WAY too loose when they're not pulled over your ski boots, which is why nobody makes them.

 

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Finally, what's up with calling long johns "base layers"?  Is that anything like calling a truck or station wagon an "SUV" to make it sound somehow more modern and trendy??

 

Yeah, pretty much...

post #35 of 35

Unless I'm wearing bicycling tights, fleece layer just gets folded over once between the knee and boot top. Lined or unlined outer layer fits over top just fine.

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