Another flawed poll, just for fun.
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Most important innovation in skiing
Poll Results: Which of the following do you consider the most important innovation in skiing? Please explain your answer in your post.
56 Total Votespost #1 of 556/27/12 at 6:11pmThread Starterpost #2 of 556/27/12 at 6:23pm
0% (0)Ski poles
8% (5)Releasable bindings
0% (0)Carbon fibers
12% (7)Metal edges
8% (5)Buckle boots
3% (2)Stretch pants
0% (0)Slalom racing
3% (2)Parallel turns
1% (1)Rocker technology
5% (3)Parabolic shapes
0% (0)Freestyle skiing
1% (1)Custom bootfitting
0% (0)Pipes and parks
41% (23)Chairlifts and other uphill transport
0% (0)Ski Patrol
5% (3)10th Mountain Division
Went metal edges; would have gone plastic boots had it been a choice. Fix that if you can.
The plastic boot is kind of the turn point for "modern skiing". It was so nice for your boots to give support for more than a few weeks. Now you could lever a ski or edge a ski on firm snow with something better than counter rotation or angulation. Try skiing the bumps with your boots unbuckled (no power straps allowed) and you will get an inkling.post #3 of 556/27/12 at 6:27pmpost #4 of 556/27/12 at 6:27pmThread StarterQuote:would have gone plastic boots had it been a choice. Fix that if you can.
That's what I mean by a flawed poll. Others who agree should vote that preference in a post, please. We'll count it.post #5 of 556/27/12 at 6:45pmpost #6 of 556/27/12 at 8:06pmpost #7 of 556/27/12 at 8:36pmpost #8 of 556/27/12 at 9:02pm
Which of the following do you consider the most important innovation in skiing? Please explain your answer in your post.
- Ski poles NO.
- Releasable bindings. A big safety inovation, but it really didn't change skiing.
- Carbon fibers. No.
- Metal edges. Only on icy or hardpack slopes, in soft snow not so much.
- Gore-tex. No.
The real most important inovation was the use of two boards to slide down a slippery slope istead of just one, but that was a hella long time ago.post #9 of 556/27/12 at 9:11pmpost #10 of 556/27/12 at 10:07pmpost #11 of 556/28/12 at 12:06ampost #12 of 556/28/12 at 8:09am
- Buckle boots Nice advancement, but didn't change the basic highspeed turn, just expanded it's range.
- Stretch pants. No, but they do look good on a good looking body.
- Slalom racing. Nope.
- Parallel turns. Inovation? Come on, these are as old as skiing.
- Rocker technology. Nope.
- Parabolic shapes. Not really, but it sure does make short turn carving easier to achieve.
- Freestyle skiing. No.
- Custom bootfitting. No.
- Pipes and parks. No.
- Chairlifts and other uphill transport. Certainly has changed skiing, along with grooming, but it would still be skiing without it.
- Grooming. See above.
- Ski Patrol. No, but it's nice to have.
- 10th Mountain Division. No, but it did help spread skiing in North America, and also helped out a bit with WWII in Europe, and I did have some of their suplus skis.
- Helmets. Hell No.
- Snowmaking. I am glad to have it, but no.
Looks like Im with the majority going with uphill transport. Without uphill transport people might still be skiing, but it would not be the industry it is today. Other innovations based on the growth of the sport made possible by chairlifts, gondolas, trams, etc.post #13 of 556/28/12 at 8:28ampost #14 of 556/28/12 at 9:42am
I still remember my first time in plastic boots at Jay Peak in 1971. Game changing.post #15 of 556/28/12 at 9:59amThread Starter
I actually thought of the Lange plastic boot when I unfortunately choose to call it a buckle boot, because at the time it was introduced that's what I keyed on, as I was still in leather lace-ups and so wanted to be like my Dad and older sister, in pain and crying about it every time we went skiing.post #16 of 556/28/12 at 10:28am
Before I saw the selections, I thought "releasable bindings", since that was what was most important to ME. However, that is because I came along POST-chairlifts, POST-metal edges, etc. (I wish this were multiple choice.) But anyway, I think the chair lift brought the most people to the sport. Before that, it was something for the truly hardy, and more of a special event, not a daily activity.post #17 of 556/28/12 at 10:50amQuote:
Have to agree that the time frame makes a huge difference; heck just for last year alone, snowmaking would be my choice. I would definitely go with plastic boots in the bigger picture (I seem to recall leather boots with buckles - not the same as plastic, just easier to tighten up for about 5 seconds until the leather began to stretch .....)post #18 of 556/28/12 at 10:57am
Without chairlifts and other means of mechanized uphill transport, skiing would be an itsy-bitsy, teeny-tiny niche sport/pastime practiced by.....
I would bet less than 1% of the people who ski today.
There would be no such thing as "recreational" skiers.post #19 of 556/28/12 at 11:09amQuote:
Yep, you said it.
OMG, I'm voting with the majority! What's happening to me? [deep anguish, existential crisis]post #20 of 556/28/12 at 11:50amQuote:
^^^^ This. Without uphill transport, there'd be no EpicSki either, in all likelihood. And then how would we waste away our spare time in the summer?post #21 of 556/28/12 at 11:59ampost #22 of 556/28/12 at 1:07pmpost #23 of 556/28/12 at 2:37pmQuote:Originally Posted by nolo
I actually thought of the Lange plastic boot when I unfortunately choose to call it a buckle boot, because at the time it was introduced that's what I keyed on, as I was still in leather lace-ups and so wanted to be like my Dad and older sister, in pain and crying about it every time we went skiing.
Hmmm,,,,,,obviously you skipped the leather buckle boot stage of development. Buckles so narrow, they'd cut into your hands if you tried to close them without gloves on.post #24 of 556/28/12 at 4:14pmpost #25 of 556/28/12 at 5:38pmThread Starterpost #26 of 556/28/12 at 5:58pmQuote:
...and just think how many millions more could be saved if we would just make helmet use Mandatory!post #27 of 556/28/12 at 9:46pmQuote:
When I got brakes for my skis, I stopped getting hit on the head.post #28 of 556/29/12 at 4:07ampost #29 of 556/29/12 at 8:43ampost #30 of 556/29/12 at 8:46am
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