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post #121 of 271

Atomic 130cm

Lots of taper, would be a bit different.

How much( see below) are the Heart cavers?

btw, you're latest turn is definitely down the wrong road.

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pop67bg/ - Goran Popovich

I think Goran is on epic.

 

So, why the reverse camber? Usually, for carving skis camber gives the ski a very nice feel on the snow.

 

I'm thinking the price point might be a bit of a problem. One is looking at $2k for ski/binding.

 

post #122 of 271

Hey Tog, did you get a chance pop over to IDRIS' website?
 

post #123 of 271

$1700 A PAIR?!?!?!?!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #124 of 271

Geez, somebody's having a heart attack!

post #125 of 271
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$1700 A PAIR?!?!?!?!

 

 

Yes, a pair. Hey, you get two skis!

Well there's also a 50% group discount.

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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post

Hey Tog, did you get a chance pop over to IDRIS' website?
 


Took a quick look. Why?

post #126 of 271

For the mfg. video and possibly some nice stoke on the blog.

post #127 of 271
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No man, woman or child should be deprived on h'carving in their lifetime, and a 155 sl is a good place to start. If you can scoot around the mountain on those, not spraying out the tails, and only carving (and without poles) then you're well on your way to becoming Sir Cocksure like me. Then you realize that they washout at higher g's and speeds, so you start to crave a new type of ski.

post #128 of 271
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Please like and vote my vid if you like it... if you don't please tell me why, so I can aim to improve it for next time and so there can even be a next time.

post #129 of 271
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Yes, a pair. Hey, you get two skis!

Well there's also a 50% group discount.

 

 

Plus the Angioplasty is way cheaper that either the Triple Bypass or the HeartSlayer.

post #130 of 271
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Please like and vote my vid if you like it... if you don't please tell me why, so I can aim to improve it for next time and so there can even be a next time.

 

There's almost zero carving on there. One could go to youtube and find some serious eurocarving. Granted, they don't use the word 'heart'.

So it's just about tooling around the mountain having fun? Hey, the Matterhorn looked great.

Too long. Contrary to what some others seem to like, long use of pole camera just to show legs going from one side to the other does nothing for me.

Looks like the reverse camber/rocker makes those things a nightmare on long traversing trails. Not that going straight was ever a forte of short carving skis.

post #131 of 271

Sorry, I voted for Max Hammer.  http://colab.tetongravity.com/entries/view/max-hammer

 

Anyone who's ever skied at Jackson Hole will appreciate the Tram to the bottom simplicity of it, from Corbet's to Dick's Ditch, and not in optimal conditions.

 

Maybe it's me, but heart carving doesn't seem to have much... carving.

post #132 of 271
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Please like and vote my vid if you like it... if you don't please tell me why, so I can aim to improve it for next time and so there can even be a next time.

 

Honestly, the 'skiing' just isn't very good, especially the bumps at the beginning. Sorry about that, but you asked.

post #133 of 271
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Please like and vote my vid if you like it... if you don't please tell me why, so I can aim to improve it for next time and so there can even be a next time

 

 

Have you not worked out yet that you have destroyed your own credibility with your demeanor. There is a market for short skis, but not from you.

post #134 of 271
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Honestly, the 'skiing' just isn't very good, especially the bumps at the beginning. Sorry about that, but you asked.
So now we have skiing in quotes. Usually a bad sign.
Maybe you want to hire someone to demonstrate the product. Usually the idea is to show how great one could be or how much fun one can have. Tooling around and getting dusted by a boarder is ok for some old skis one bought on eBay. It's not so great for skis that cost more than Kastles.

Why not use the park vid you had? Don't know why anyone would want to land on a 6m short ski but it looked ok.
post #135 of 271
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Thanks for everyone's feedback. This may be my last post.

 

post #136 of 271
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Originally Posted by heartcarve View Post

No man, woman or child should be deprived on h'carving in their lifetime, and a 155 sl is a good place to start. If you can scoot around the mountain on those, not spraying out the tails, and only carving (and without poles) then you're well on your way to becoming Sir Cocksure like me. Then you realize that they washout at higher g's and speeds, so you start to crave a new type of ski.


Racers have been carving without poles on anything from +200cm down to SL skis for quite some time...
Are racers the inventors of heartcarving? eek.gif

post #137 of 271
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Please like and vote my vid if you like it... if you don't please tell me why, so I can aim to improve it for next time and so there can even be a next time.

Honest feedback: The music is terrible. The skiing isn't create either. I get that your skis are all about carving but it's just... boring. Watch some of the top vids your not even in the same class. 

post #138 of 271
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Sorry, I voted for Max Hammer.  http://colab.tetongravity.com/entries/view/max-hammer

 

Anyone who's ever skied at Jackson Hole will appreciate the Tram to the bottom simplicity of it, from Corbet's to Dick's Ditch, and not in optimal conditions.

 

Maybe it's me, but heart carving doesn't seem to have much... carving.

holy crap was his sound track obnoxious. The skiing wasn't bad but seriously did he listen to that before he posted it? It's like listening to nails on a chalk board for 5 mins. It would have been okay as an intro to build up but seriously I almost couldn't watch it 

post #139 of 271
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Originally Posted by heartcarve View Post
 

 This may be my last post.

 

 

 

There is nothing proprietary here, you should be crushed like the cockroach you are.

 

Yours,

 

Mr. Wonderful.

post #140 of 271
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Please like and vote my vid if you like it... if you don't please tell me why, so I can aim to improve it for next time and so there can even be a next time.

It looks like you're having fun in that video.  My advice is, do what you like and like what you do.   

 

As for my vote, it went to Randy Evans. 

http://colab.tetongravity.com/entries/view/randy-evans#.UbptgpUVdS8

 

One of our Bear friends, Blizzimages, posted Randy's link and I got a kick out of it.  

post #141 of 271
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holy crap was his sound track obnoxious. The skiing wasn't bad but seriously did he listen to that before he posted it? It's like listening to nails on a chalk board for 5 mins. It would have been okay as an intro to build up but seriously I almost couldn't watch it 

 

I agree there are parts of the video I'm not crazy about, but the top to bottom skiing was pretty awesome.  No crazy lines in Alaska, just straight up ripping a tram lap at Jackson - pretty cool IMO.  I wish I could ski "not bad" in your eyes - tough critic!  Have you ever hit Corbet's properly from the top like that?

 

The next day I voted for Elyse Saugstaud (since you can vote once per day) - http://colab.tetongravity.com/entries/view/elyse-saugstad#.UbqIl-u2LcY

 

Not many of the ladies can huck and stomp right up there with the guys.  Very impressive.

post #142 of 271
Cantuna I'll check it out.

How do you actually see the videos?
All the links posted except for heartcarver's don't get me a video. Links want me to sign in to vote with Facebooke. Gag me with a spoon. I'd rather just have a conversation directly with the NSA contractor in MD monitoring conversations.

Heartcarver you're leaving without telling us more about the product?
post #143 of 271
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I agree there are parts of the video I'm not crazy about, but the top to bottom skiing was pretty awesome.  No crazy lines in Alaska, just straight up ripping a tram lap at Jackson - pretty cool IMO.  I wish I could ski "not bad" in your eyes - tough critic!  Have you ever hit Corbet's properly from the top like that?

 

The next day I voted for Elyse Saugstaud (since you can vote once per day) - http://colab.tetongravity.com/entries/view/elyse-saugstad#.UbqIl-u2LcY

 

Not many of the ladies can huck and stomp right up there with the guys.  Very impressive.

Haha I can certainly not ski like them but I am comparing them to each other. Its like when people say a receiver in the NFL is okay. Compared to the overall population he's a freaking rock star but compared to his pool of competitors he's just mediocre.

 

I did like her video. I also really liked Nick Mcnutt's video some pretty  crazy pillow/billy goat lines in there

post #144 of 271
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I also really liked Nick Mcnutt's video some pretty  crazy pillow/billy goat lines in there

 

Me too.  I think that's the first time I've seen someone hit a pillow line switch.  Pretty crazy.  Word is he's about to break out big time on the film scene, either with MSP or TGR.

post #145 of 271
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post
How much( see below) are the Heart cavers?

btw, you're latest turn is definitely down the wrong road.

 

So, why the reverse camber? Usually, for carving skis camber gives the ski a very nice feel on the snow.

 

I'm thinking the price point might be a bit of a problem. One is looking at $2k for ski/binding.

The reverse camber is to allow dropping into the carves on groomers but also has the effect of making the ski work very well in powder, crud and anything else that comes its way. People say racing skis are about bending them to get the arc you want from what is otherwise a straight sidecut. I think this is unnecessary when the ski can be just "pre-bent" with the reverse camber. You are alleviating a lot of stress on your body to "bend the ski" and in the process you still get the same lines. On straight traverses I put my hands behind my back and I don't have to worry about the skis fidgeting around because the rear of the ski is solidly engaged. They work well enough for doing that.. and there's a vid of me doing that which will go up again after voting closes. The price is high for 1 pair although if you seriously want a pair....

there's a ton of info in the faq. How else may I help you?

post #146 of 271
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Originally Posted by heartcarve View Post

The reverse camber is to allow dropping into the carves on groomers but also has the effect of making the ski work very well in powder, crud and anything else that comes its way. People say racing skis are about bending them to get the arc you want from what is otherwise a straight sidecut. I think this is unnecessary when the ski can be just "pre-bent" with the reverse camber. You are alleviating a lot of stress on your body to "bend the ski" and in the process you still get the same lines. On straight traverses I put my hands behind my back and I don't have to worry about the skis fidgeting around because the rear of the ski is solidly engaged. They work well enough for doing that.. and there's a vid of me doing that which will go up again after voting closes. The price is high for 1 pair although if you seriously want a pair....

there's a ton of info in the faq. How else may I help you?

 

 

honestly you do not get out much do you?

 

the skiing(your skiing) is nothing new and nothing impressive. If you have fun with it great but realize there is more fun to be had if you were better and stopped naming everything you do.

post #147 of 271
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honestly you do not get out much do you?

 

the skiing(your skiing) is nothing new and nothing impressive. If you have fun with it great but realize there is more fun to be had if you were better and stopped naming everything you do.

There is no ski on the market that comes remotely close to the heartslayer, and nothing in the realm with what I have in store. One model has a tail wider than the tip (the breakbeat) for 360s out of carves and other new shizzle.

post #148 of 271
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Originally Posted by heartcarve View Post

There is no ski on the market that comes remotely close to the heartslayer, and nothing in the realm with what I have in store. One model has a tail wider than the tip (the breakbeat) for 360s out of carves and other new shizzle.

 

 

I can 360 carve a conventional ski. why do I need a wider tail?

post #149 of 271
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How do you actually see the videos?
All the links posted except for heartcarver's don't get me a video. Links want me to sign in to vote with Facebooke. Gag me with a spoon. I'd rather just have a conversation directly with the NSA contractor in MD monitoring

I had exactly the same thought.
post #150 of 271

Why did you choose to have the waist forward on the skis?   And how do you define "forward" - is it relative to the midpoint of overall axial length?  Or is it relative to the camber?

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