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Got a Blizzard Bushwacker for next season and now need bindings

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

I`ve done some research on the web and here on epicski and most of the suggestion people are receiving is for Griffon, STH 12 Driver and Pivot 14.

 

I`m 150lbs and going to my second season next year, so I won`t demand too much from the bindings and all of them as far as I could understand would work. I ski mostly off piste and ungroomed runs, my local ski area is Bogus Basin in Boise-ID and if this is of any relevance I have a Nordica Firearrow F3 295mm and my last season`s lease skis were set to 5.5

 

2013 Marker Griffon 90mm $229

2013 Salomon STH 12 Driver 90mmr $229

2012 Look Pivot 14 Wide would go $20 more

 

I`ve found cheaper bindings 2013 Marker Squire for $189 and Salomon STH OS for $140. Should I be concerned with any of these bindings? I`ve seen many complaints about the Squire, but have seen good things about STH OS.

 

Right now I`m thinking about Marker Griffon, looks reliable based on the information I found, also it is lighter than the STH 12 Driver and the Pivot 14 Wide. Also I`m assuming a 90mm break would not be a problem for the Bushwacker.

 

Any thoughts? 

post #2 of 13

I weight 200lbs, stand 5'10" and ski 65-70 days/season. I have probably 120 days on Squires. No problems. Boots are Dynafit Zzeus with the AT soles on them. The bindings work great. I also have Tour F12 with probably 40 days on them and put a few days on a pair of Griffons this season. All work fine. The Griffons definitely look and feel a bit more beefy than the Squires, but I'd be surprised if you have any problem with the Squire. All the bindings you list would be fine. I just find that Marker's adjustable height, moveable AFD works really well with my rubber soled boots.

post #3 of 13
All of the bindings you mentioned are good bindings. The Pivot 14 maybe a bit more binding then you would use. What did you like about each binding? I find it is easiest to break what you like about each down and compare the components to each other.

The biggest thing is making sure you will be able to run a DIN you want to run on the binding you choose and is the cost to performance ratio acceptable. Just a few of the things I ask people in terms of bindings: Were you happy with the release "feel" and settings from last year? If so, having a 14 DIN binding isn't going to be worth the extra coin. Are you taking air or jumping off cliffs? If you are, having a beefier (a binding with more metal and weight) is going to be worth while.

Another binding to maybe look at is a Rossi Axial2 120. I have been on a pair the past couple seasons, and I feel it performs as well as the Griffon. It has a good heal on it, and a pretty decent toe piece.

It is tough to type much on a phone, but there are some differences between these bindings. If you want, when I get home I may be able to.type up some specific differences I have found between the bindings.
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 

I really have no experience, so I will have to base my purchase on other people`s experience. I`m ok spending around $200 for the bindings, the only thing I really want to avoid is having something that`s heavier and that won`t bring anything I will need with the extra weight...

 

I can`t really tell what I like or dislike about each one because I simply don`t know :-( But apparently they are all good bindings and I wouldn`t have any problem with any of these

 

Would a 90mm break be good for the Bushwacker?

post #5 of 13

I bought Look PX model (get the lowest din model they have, 12 to 14 is plenty of strength) bindings at Level Nine dot com for about half price. check it out. last forever, and since you're just starting out, perfect.

post #6 of 13
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The one thing I like about the look is the 180 toe piece release, both PX and Pivot have that. I haven`t thought about the PX before but seems to be good for me as well as cheaper than the Pivot. 

 

OTOH the one thing I like about the Marker is the wider footprint, I heard it`s better for wider skis, but again no personal experience...

 

I purchased everything brand new this year so I probably shouldn`t worry about adjustment for new boots, anyway a few mm should be corrected by having some tech guy adjusting the forward pressure for me.

 

Anyone has any comment about the 180 toe piece release or if the wider footprint in the marker provides any advantage?

post #7 of 13
Bindings is the most overthought ski purchase and for no reason. Get what you can find cheap and as long as it can go up to your DIN, you will be fine. It always amazes me that people agonize over what to get but accept whatever binding is mounted on a demo ski without a question. Wider footprint of markets is a marketing gimmick, I believe the actual screw pattern is wider on the Looks. Griffins are splendid bindings, but so are the Pivots and PXs.
post #8 of 13
Any of the higher end Rossi bindings (same as Look) come with the 180* toe piece.

And I don't think bindings are always over thought. If you are an intermediate or below skier who stays on groomers, will you notice a difference between a Z10 and axial2 100? No. They are both 10 DIN bindings, but the Rossi is far superior and will handle higher impact loads then the Z10. I usually recommend up to a binding which matches your skiing ability and style, don't spend a bunch of extra money on features you will never need. Buy new goggles smile.gif
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

Bindings is the most overthought ski purchase and for no reason. Get what you can find cheap and as long as it can go up to your DIN, you will be fine. It always amazes me that people agonize over what to get but accept whatever binding is mounted on a demo ski without a question. Wider footprint of markets is a marketing gimmick, I believe the actual screw pattern is wider on the Looks. Griffins are splendid bindings, but so are the Pivots and PXs.

Most ANY 12 binding is acceptable...The BEST one is is the one that matches the graphically will perform the best. wink.gif

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post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by TallSkinnyGuy View Post

Here's the Look PX 14 race binding with 100mm brakes for a good deal at $129:

http://www.evo.com/outlet/alpine-ski-bindings/dynastar-px14-100mm-brakes.aspx#image=51568.Color.Hardgoods_Blue_Image.jpg

 

That is the best binding you will find for the $$. Plus it matches the skis! cool.gifwink.gif

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by TallSkinnyGuy View Post

Here's the Look PX 14 race binding with 100mm brakes for a good deal at $129:

http://www.evo.com/outlet/alpine-ski-bindings/dynastar-px14-100mm-brakes.aspx#image=51568.Color.Hardgoods_Blue_Image.jpg

 

I had Bonafide on the mind when suggesting these bindings. They would work but be a little wider than you need. You could get the 80mm brakes on the regular PX 12 for about $88 until midnight tonight at Evo. I tend to prefer getting narrower brakes and bending them out to fit if they are too tight.

post #13 of 13

Right now I`m thinking about Marker Griffon, looks reliable based on the information I found, also it is lighter than the STH 12 Driver and the Pivot 14 Wide. Also I`m assuming a 90mm break would not be a problem for the Bushwacker.

 

 

 

   I have Griffons with 90 mm brakes on Bushwackers and Griffons with 110 mm brakes on Bonifides and both they work great.  Light is the ticket for all day skiing!

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