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I very badly want to experience sledging within my lifetime. I was born on the wrong continent.

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

First of all, I have little experience with ski forums (I am a member of non-ski forums), so if this thread is in the wrong forum (I tried my best to put in the appropriate forum), then moderators please move this thread to the appropriate location.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usKgG0ubrkg

 

I absolutely HATE the fact that I get treated as a second-class citizen just because I live in the U.S. I can never experience this for myself. All that I can do is stare at my computer screen and long for the thing that I want. The unintelligent ski resorts here in the U.S. very seriously need to get their act together and treat me like the human being that I am.

 

I don't know how to join a campaign to get the ski resorts to give sledders what they deserve, but if there is any such campaign that exists then I will sign the petition in a heartbeat. I am just as much a human being as the sled-lovers in Europe, so I'm failing to see the logic.

My question is, is there any ski resort in the northeast/mid-Atlantic region, which will allow what is in the video. And if such a ski resort does not exist, then is there a campaign to get ski resorts to allow sledging? I know that snowboarders (in the 1970s and 1980s) have had to fight for the privilege to snowboard. Is there anyone who will fight for the privileges of us sled-lovers.

 

I wish that more people would knock on the doors of the ski resorts to petition them to get their act together. I want what the snowboarders have.


Everything within me cries out to experience sledging, without me having to travel across an entire ocean. If I someday take a trip to Europe then it will cost me a tremendous amount of money. Transatlantic trips are expensive.

post #2 of 12

It looks like fun.

 

Clearly this is in the wrong forum.  Unless this was all tongue-in-cheek....Hard to tell.  

 

Now, as to doing this in the US.  Did you LOOK at the size of the area where they are doing this?  It's in the alps where ski areas are VAST, connected with numerous villages.  I ski at an area that has 3000 acres, which puts it on the large side for the US, not the biggest, but a good size.  Did you notice that the sledge run is marked off and is a significant obstruction to downhill skiing?  It's a groomed, I am sure FIRM surface, pretty much a snow-covered road, cut across the slopes.  That ski area is really empty as well.  Where do we have that kind of real estate available on our mountains?  There are already issues at most areas with skiers and snow boarders colliding with each other.  I certainly don't want some sled slamming into my ankles out of nowhere!!!  

 

But, heck, it looks fun for one run.  Beyond that, seems like a good thing for couch potatoes.

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

First of all, this is not tongue-in-cheek. My jealousy toward snowboarders is for real.

 

Secondly, I do not wish to sled down a small hill. I am sick of having to settle for that which is inferior. It is my desire to sled down a mountain, the same way that a snowboarder snowboards down the mountain. I have determined that if worst comes to worst, then I will have no choice but to sled down a wide hiking trail/mountain road.

 

But it is my position that if a snowboarder is not required to carry his snowboard up the trail, then a sled-rider should not have to carry his sled up the trail, either. Ultimately, I wish there was a mountain, which contained a chairlift (or similar device).

 

If I have to exhaust myself to death by dragging my sled up a mountain, then I will do it. But a snowboarder's chairlift would still make my life easier.

post #4 of 12

Have you snow biked?  That looks like a lot more fun and probably easier on the knees.  

 

If you just have to sled try a bobsled, that is a major kick in the a#%!  Have done that in Park City and Calgary and you can do it pretty much year round.  It is expensive but has got to be cheaper than going to the Alps.  Those things don't look like you are doing 4G turns like a bobsled.

post #5 of 12

We did this in Austria many years ago as an evenings distraction from skiing.  We rode a long single chair up the mountain side, covered in blankets & hanging on to our sleds on the way up.  They called them toboggans & they were made of wood, with steel runners on the rails, but similar idea to what is in the video.  Every kid in the alps had one.  This was in 1981 & the trail was lit with kerosene lanterns.  We stopped a couple of times along the route to old barns where we were refreshed with jagge tea, schnapps & singing traditional folk songs with the locals.  By the time we got to the bottom of what seemed like a many miles long ride, we were totally hammered & wanting for more.  It was such a good time the memory of that night has stuck with me for all these years. 

 

The US mountain culture could certainly learn something from the fun loving Tyroleans.

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JF

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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post

We did this in Austria many years ago as an evenings distraction from skiing.  We rode a long single chair up the mountain side, covered in blankets & hanging on to our sleds on the way up.  They called them toboggans & they were made of wood, with steel runners on the rails, but similar idea to what is in the video.  Every kid in the alps had one.  This was in 1981 & the trail was lit with kerosene lanterns.  We stopped a couple of times along the route to old barns where we were refreshed with jagge tea, schnapps & singing traditional folk songs with the locals.  By the time we got to the bottom of what seemed like a many miles long ride, we were totally hammered & wanting for more.  It was such a good time the memory of that night has stuck with me for all these years. 

 

The US mountain culture could certainly learn something from the fun loving Tyroleans.

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JF

 

Same here, except it was just this past February, so a bit modernized. It's a blast! But oh it was cold....

 

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post #7 of 12

I do remember a drunken toboggan ride back in January of 1972.  But not much.  And I am fairly sure we climbed the hill on foot, it was damn dark.

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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

 

.  Did you notice that the sledge run is marked off and is a significant obstruction to downhill skiing?  It's a groomed, I am sure FIRM surface, pretty much a snow-covered road, cut across the slopes. 

 

 

     It looked like pretty much a typical  catwalk-grade piste.     A lot of resorts have snowmobile and groomer access trails that could be devoted to this.  

 

  I think  serpentine-catwalk-structure resorts like Kicking Horse could pull this  off  (Vail is probably too crowded).      In the Mid-Atlantic?     The obvious candidates to ask would be West Virginia,  Canaan Valley frex.     Remember inflatable (head-first) sleds, about 3-4 years back now?       This is not new turf.

 

 

I like head-first sledging better (and I had the toe-worn boots as a kid to prove it),  that might not fly over as well as sit-sledding.

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I like head-first sledging better (and I had the toe-worn boots as a kid to prove it),  that might not fly over as well as sit-sledding.

LOL, Me too!  The Austrians rode the sleds sitting like in Segbrowns first picture.  They thought I was nuts when I went head first eek.gif.  I told them that it was the "American Technique!"

 

JF

post #10 of 12

Here in the states they have "tubing".  Several golf courses and other parks in Minnesota installed rope tows on their larger hills back in the early 80s.  It was really inexpensive and a big party atmosphere.  You'd pay $5-$10 to ride for several hours.  Adult beverages were not discouraged, even kegs in the parking lot sometimes.  Now many of the Southeastern resorts offer it on their smaller trails designated for tubing only.  Hawksnest actually closed to skiers entirely and now just caters to tubing. 

 

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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

Here in the states they have "tubing".  Several golf courses and other parks in Minnesota installed rope tows on their larger hills back in the early 80s.  It was really inexpensive and a big party atmosphere.  You'd pay $5-$10 to ride for several hours.  Adult beverages were not discouraged, even kegs in the parking lot sometimes.  Now many of the Southeastern resorts offer it on their smaller trails designated for tubing only.  Hawksnest actually closed to skiers entirely and now just caters to tubing. 

 

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Yeah, I've been tubing. It's nothing like sledging. 4ster described it best, you go up, sled down a bit, have a glühwein, continue, stop again for Käse-Knödel and Kaiserschmarr'n, rinse and repeat.

 

I was not a very expert sledder, though ... I was passed a lot, lol. (They fly on those things -- just as I'm sure beginning skiers think I ski really fast, too)

post #12 of 12

Oh yeah,  I forgot the glühwein.

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