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So Mariano Rivera's knee injury has been diagnosed as an ACL tear. Is this the end of an era for long time closers? There was an article on Yahoo! Sports talking about the way closers are used now and how they can't seem to last more than 2 or 3 seasons. The Sandman has been at it for the better part of 20 seasons, still going strong. He was likely going to retire and it seems like this will knock him out for the season. 

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Bummer, he's one of the few Yankees that I don't hate unconditionally. Tough way for a career to end, but it has to end somehow.

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Bummer, he's one of the few Yankees that I don't hate unconditionally. Tough way for a career to end, but it has to end somehow.

 

The others being?

 

Jeter & Bernie Williams?

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As someone who detests the Yankees (and is not a Sawx fan), I'd have to go with these recent players (~ past 20 years) that I didn't despise:

 

Rivera (by far)

O'Neil

Cano

Tex

Joba (for whatever reason, I just respected his talent and he's had some hard knocks)

 

Might be one or two others. Jeter is not on my list. Great clutch playoff player, but over-hyped.

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Add Bernie Williams. Duh.
 

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As someone who detests the Yankees (and is not a Sawx fan), I'd have to go with these recent players (~ past 20 years) that I didn't despise:

 

Rivera (by far)

O'Neil

Cano

Tex

Joba (for whatever reason, I just respected his talent and he's had some hard knocks)

 

Might be one or two others. Jeter is not on my list. Great clutch playoff player, but over-hyped.

 

Sure he's overhyped, but he seems like a nice human being which is the common theme for not hating them. 

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I think CC Sabathia is a great player and is easy to like... it'd be easier if he wasn't in pinstripes, but whatever.

Curtis Granderson is a nice guy and I like his game. 

Andy Petit was/is a good guy.

Andruw Jones, well it's sad how his career is ending, but he's a former all-time great.

I never disliked Hideki Matsui

Mike Mussina was a class act.

 

there have been plenty of Yankees who I don't wish a season ending injury upon.

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I think CC Sabathia is a great player and is easy to like... it'd be easier if he wasn't in pinstripes, but whatever.

Curtis Granderson is a nice guy and I like his game. 

Andy Petit was/is a good guy.

Andruw Jones, well it's sad how his career is ending, but he's a former all-time great.

I never disliked Hideki Matsui

Mike Mussina was a class act.

 

there have been plenty of Yankees who I don't wish a season ending injury upon.

 

I know Mike somewhat. He grew up and played HS ball a town over from here (actually I saw him at the mall the other night with the tee-ball team he coaches). For business reasons I'll refrain from saying much in a publicly view-able forum, but I wouldn't necessarily use the term class act to describe him. Don't get me wrong, he seems to be a decent guy, but also very entitled from stories I've heard. If you want to get an idea of his personality, his brother co-hosts a local sports show from 4-6 M-F that streams on sports1050.com

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Mike Mussina was a class act.

 

Forgot he was a Yankee.

 

Biggest screw-up Angelblows ever made. And his screw-ups are numerous and legendary. Davey Johnson. Frank Wren. Jon Miller. And on...

 

Mussina would have signed for below market rate a year or two before free agency. It was almost as bad as if they let Cal go.

 

Two Mussina memories stick in my mind. He outdueled Randy Johnson in the playoffs in the late 90's. At OPACY, saw him pitching a perfect game until one out in the ninth when Sandy Alomar lined a clean hit.

 

Moose. Nickname reflecting his heart, not his build.

 

So I hate Angelblows. But I hate the 90-00 Yankees as much if not more. They could just toss as much money as they wanted at whomever they wanted. Lots of them didn't work out. But with the TV contract and NY market, they could just toss even more money at the next free agent.

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but I wouldn't necessarily use the term class act to describe him.

 

I really wonder if many great athletes are truly class acts. I think most are arrogant (which you have to be to succeed), and as you said, probably entitled. I'm sure there are exceptions, but probably more from the every-day player category. And hockey players.

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but I wouldn't necessarily use the term class act to describe him.

 

I really wonder if many great athletes are truly class acts. I think most are arrogant (which you have to be to succeed), and as you said, probably entitled. I'm sure there are exceptions, but probably more from the every-day player category. And hockey players.

So I've heard. My first boss in the IT field worked as a camera man for a Philly area TV channel. Was court/rink/field side for a lot of games. That was what he told me. Hockey players just love being there, almost always very humble happy guys. Basketball is the exact opposite. A bunch of prima donnas and jerks. Football and baseball tended to be between the two extremes.

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