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L3 Ski Journey Notes and Feedback (warning, it's going to be a long read)

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It's really starting to sink in as I start the process of reading the workbook for the teach portion and start to think about moving forward. Passed the next step and now for more learning.


Looking back I was going to give you some history but decided many of you have followed some of my L1 and L2 successes and shared my L3 attempts over the years so I will just focus on the past 2-3 seasons experiences. You can search for older reports.


Three seasons back I was starting to get as feed back, "stop taking clinics and just go ski". '"You have moments of brilliance but it needs to be all the time". This was telling me that I am skiing at or above the L3 Standard, some of the time but not consistently. All of those old "Straight ski bad habits" that were making me a very strong skier were the very things that were keeping me from this next step in my journey. Anytime I got in trouble (mostly steeps, crud and bumps) all of the habits that kept me from tumbling down the slope were kicking in. Athletic and strong maybe but not "good turn mechanics". I had also heard from several examiners that it is very unlikely for a part time instructor to pass the L3 ski but I was determined to press on..


The things on my " to improve on list" were


Fore/Aft balance. Everyone kept telling me I needed to have my hips further forward over my feet or to figure out how to get my feet behind me.

Learn to flatten and steer your skis instead of riding the side cut. "practice and ski on wider skis".

Balance against that outside ski

and the big one.. TOUCH. Learn how much or how little you need to affect the turn. "Less is more" "Ski Cuff Neutral" "be more progressive"



Fore Aft balance: in 2008-2009 early in the season I decided to start playing with ramp angle/boot balancing (I had already gotten my boots canted during my L1-l2 years) to help me find a more centered balance point.


I had been skiing on Salomon xwave 10s with cuffs and soles canted. Nothing done for ramp or lean. I pulled all the spoilers, installed booster straps and changed the way I buckled (boosters between cuff and liner instead of over cuff) and I removed the stiffening bolts from the back of the boots thinking the boot was too stiff. The affect was pretty dramatic. I was now able to really flex the boot and much more progressively. I also added 3 mm of toe lift due to a suggestion (wasn't sure what the affect was supposed to do at this time but figured I'd try it. My posture changed dramatically when skiing and I was able to turn my feet better but other things stayed the same. At the end of the season, I had a boot failure (crack started to form on the cuff) so I went in search of a new boot. Because the boot last fit so well with minimum change I called on the boot fitting knowledge here (I am a master fit U, certified fitter BTW) to find what was replacing the Xwave and was told the Impact was supposed to be the direct replacement. I purchased this boot and proceeded to re-check my cant, alignment etc and installed the same toe lift (foolishly not checking all the measurements) The next season when I took the first exam, I was told I had "gone back" to the same hips "behind the feet" posture. When I tried to make the adjustment in my skiing the second day, When ever I really "forced myself" to stand taller and over the skis I would get "THAT's IT " however the "THAT's IT" pattern feeling was "OMG, I am going to fall on my face" and I was struggling to just keep from going over the handle bars. That can't be right!. Except for that posture, the feed back for the exam was good. Turning my feet well, doing tasks well, moments of brilliant skiing, getting more progressive, etc.. But not enough. It was then I decided to recheck all my gear.. I had just switched that season to new boots and Different skis (wider). Unfortunately I had also just spent a full season ingraining all those patterns into my skiing. The result of the equipment check, Ramp was different in the 2 boots even though Salomon had advertised the Impact as the "Same last". Forward lean was a little bit more too. Also the Equipe 3V Race skis I was skiing had less delta (ramp) than my new Tornado TI skis. I added another 4mm of toe lift to get me to the same place as I was on my Xwaves (now a total of 7 on these new boots) and decided to take the exam again, just to see how much of a change it made. (mainly so I could get trained eyes on my skiing) to make sure I was going the correct way. Also this season my resort was closing early and I didn't have time to get a whole lot of training in with our trainers but I wanted to confirm my findings. According to the examiner I skied with, as well as the examiner from my previous outing, What a HUGE difference in my skiing. It was like I had just gotten several seasons of training in. I was pretty sure I was not going to get a pass because I was still finding my "balance" again after the boot changes but it was very encouraging to know. I also decided that I would continue my education on equipment so I scheduled myself to take the masters course for MasterfitU boot fitting to get a better understanding of "why" for the toe lift.


The change in balance with the extra toe lift also assisted in the flatten and steer department (gee wonder why that is?) 


Balance against the outside ski I get. just need to practice more and more.. White pass turns, Javelins, Anchor Javelins, One legged skiing, and "stork turns" as much and as often as I can.


Touch... Just ski in every horrible condition I can find and learn how to keep that upper body stable, be light on my feet (as little input to the ski as I can get away with) and patience. Ski Cuff neutral as much as I can and still engage the front of the ski.  Move forward before moving laterally and again, Just enough. This should help with the flatten and steer department as well.


Unfortunately at the end of 2010 (acutally right before my last exam) my new boots cracked at the cuff (again) so next year new boots again. This time with the Masterfit course coming up I would have a chance to learn and understand more about the mechanics of what I was learning in my skiing.


During evaluation of feet, range of motion, at masterfitU I had another epiphany (explained later). Something I had always done when looking at peoples feet but never really thought much of how it would affect skiing . I also began to look at body geometry and started to understand more and more about that as well.


I discovered that I have "hyper mobile" ankles. The normal range of motion for most adults is about 11-16 degrees. I have about 23 degrees of range. I also discovered that I have longer than average tib/fib compared to my femurs. Combine these 2 things and what I found is that standing in my boots cuff neutral, without all the toe lift, my knees were well forward of my toes.. (good thing you'd think) but for me to stay balanced something had to move back to counter balance where my knees were and guess what that is! My hips. I also found that the 110-120 flex of the boots I had been getting were allowing me to flex my boots even further since my ROM was allowing my ankles to flex that far which meant even more weight forward that needs to be counter balanced with the hips back.

When I got my credit for my returned cracked boots, I opted to go with a more upright and stiffer boot and ended up in the Salomon X3 Race CS. Flex of 130. As soon as I adjusted my cuff and cant's I got on my skis in the shop and had someone help me with my fore aft balance. We found that I still needed 3 mm of toe lift so that when I stand cuff neutral my knees were back enough to allow me to stand with my hips just forward of my arches. Now to the slopes to ski.. Even now standing cuff neutral, my knees are just over my toes


Bottom line. While we tell everyone it's not the equipment, it's the driver, If you are trying to "paint a specific image" and learn to use the equipment properly, It sure helps to get the setup and tuning right!


As an instructor, especially a L3 instructor, it really helps to know what's going on with equipment. Cause and effect will take you a long way..


On to my experience and thoughts about the "New Coached" exam process.


As a part timer, I found that getting training at your own mountain is often problematic. Since we are usually weekend only instructors when the work load is highest, there is little time to train. Most of the time we get 1 hr in the morning to free ski or train. A lot of the time, the Trainers and L3 instructors, if they are there, are working privates. Since there are not a huge number of instructors at this level, only one clinic will often go out. Of course they have to clinic to the lowest common denominator so Steep bumps, crud, high performance dynamic skiing is often put aside for lower level tasks and work. Before 2004 when I broke my leg, there were prep clinics for each exam. They brought them back after a few years but by then I was being told I don't need to "clinic" but I need to "ski hard" and develop that "touch" Practice your tasks, etc but just go ski. Without examiners and trainers in abundance at our resort, My best chance for good trained eyes and some coaching was through the PSIA-W Coached exam format (and EpicSki academy which also was not held last season). Where else would I be able to get coaching at this high of a level, with a group ratio of 5:1 for 3 full days for only 90.00 per day? So each event I attended was with an open mind, and no expectations. Just keep improving and working towards my goal. Of course it's always disappointing to get that paper that said "did not attain" but I left each time with more insight into my skiing.


Towards the end of 2011 (our really good season) There was almost always hero snow to ski on. I skied as much as I could given the teaching needs, but the down side of this year was the snow conditions were so good, sometimes it was actually hard to find snow or conditions that would really "teach" me how to ski the horrible conditions that put me that out of balance. While I'm sure it helped cement good movement patterns into my skiing, being put in some real tough conditions were still causing me to revert to old habits and patterns. From my feedback at Mammoth, "getting closer" but the "touch and fluidity" is just not there 90% of the time. Especially when I get bounced or thrown out of balance.


In 2011-12 season, I vowed to myself I would be out every morning, lunch, and free time, skiing off piste, junk, crud, steep, bumps, etc regardless of how "poor" the conditions were. Unfortunately for me, Nature decided that there would not be any of that to ski on until late February. On hopes of better snow to practice in, I signed up for the L3 Ski exam (scheduled in March) early in January. If I knew I would only get about 10 days of good skiing in before this exam I would have postponed taking it however I decided go ski, learn from the experience and move on.. It was probably a good thing too. The full first day at Squaw it was brutal skiing but I was skiing well. Well enough that my examiner said I had been skiing at or  the standard most of the day. Sure there were things I needed to work on but most of the feed back was good. Unfortunately Day 1 had taken so much out of me (energy and focus) that day 2, I knew I was not going to get through it well. I skied hard and pretty good but not nearly good enough to pass. At that point I decided that I would continue to train as much and as hard as I could and 2 weeks before the next exam, I would re-evaluate and decide then if I should take another run at it.


We went to Alta for my dad's birthday the next week and with no new snow, and spring conditions, I got even more chances to ski Icy bumps, crud, spring mush, steeps for several days straight. Every chance I got, I was hopping into the trees, chutes, ungroomed crud and just skied hard. When we got back we had the great March of storms, followed by warm days and frozen nights and many more chances to just go ski. Business at the resort was steady but down so it allowed for even more free skiing and training with only a few lessons per weekend so by the end of March, I decided to press forward and take the exam to see how much I had progressed.


Day one of the last exam was Monday April 16th at Squaw.

Conditions were firm morning snow, icy groomers and sunny. Promise of 50+ degrees by 1:00. There were about 16 people there to take the exam. Most very nervous, several I had skied with in the past, Many more I had never seen before. At least one other from the March exam. Several were taking the exam for the first time. Some had just passed their L2. After some introductions we all just went out to warm up together and so the examiners could take a quick look at everyone's skiing and see if the assigned groups would be OK. Once we got a couple of runs in, we split up into our groups of 5 or 6 and the process started. We were given instructions on where we were headed (each group went to different areas on the mountain for various tasks) and what to start to think about. With the coached exam module the feel and atmosphere was more like a clinic and more "user friendly" than in the past. At the start of each task segment, we would travel to an area with a task in mind (so we could start to get mindset in place) then before actually doing a task we were told what is expected, what makes for good movements, what are considered flaws. What to watch out for. Then a demo by the examiner.. The examiner would pull off to the side and we would ski the task one at a time. When we had all gone, there would be some feedback, usually individual but often it was Dave and lou, you were both doing... Chris and Tim, your demo was good except for ... and "G" you need to do it more slowly. Then if we had space to do the task again we would, if not, we might ski to another spot on the hill and do it again. The next feedback might be "better  on this but now work on.. " or "that was it" or "try the task with less or more of this" or "try adding a pole touch". Sometimes it was global feedback, sometimes it was just clarification of the task. Sometimes it was clarification of what makes for better or flawed movements in a task. IE, Why do we do pivot side slips? Just to show rotary? Just to show edge control? clean simultaneous release? balance?. Depending on the way the task is presented, it could be some or all of the above. If one portion was lacking, maybe they will do a variation on the task to highlight a specific skill or lack there of.


Or examiner did a good job of selecting appropriate terrain and conditions for each of the tasks. By 11:00 the snow was getting very sticky and mushy. Luckily we had gotten the one legged skiing out of the way on the "Ramp" before it started getting too sticky but it also meant trying to do hop turns later in steep mush. (of course that's probably where we would need to do these in real life anyway)


After a few runs a couple of other examiners (not examining that day) caught up with us and announced that they were going to skiing with us. More eyes to watch but they kept insisting that they were there to "keep an eye" on the examiners and the process. They claim it is actually helpful for the candidates. They are supposedly there to make sure the Examiners are all on the same page, and that there is little bias between candidate and examiners. I found it is also helpful because one examiner's take on a task or demo will differ from another examiner. Different diameter small radius turns, Reaching or short,, etc...


By the end of the morning, we had pretty much gone through most of our tasks and skiing. Early in the afternoon we had a second chance (after lunch) to ski as a whole group (all 16). Another chance for the examiners to compare notes on all the candidates and make sure they are all seeing the same things. When we broke up into small groups for the afternoon, we had a chance to revisit tasks we wanted another shot at, finish up the tasks we didn't do, and a chance to check that we were sure we covered everything we wanted to. By the end of the day, full on "Fly Paper Snow" even in the steeps and bumps. A couple of pitches on our way down to the bottom, our examiner would say "lets do this task ..... " and he would take off to give us a demo and right away he would hold up his poles and wave us off telling us it's too dangerous. So we just picked our way down to the bottom.


At the end of the day, we each sat down with our examiners and had a chance to get individual feedback for the day and what to expect for day 2. I knew what I had to watch out for, Mostly things I had been working on, just need to be more focused on them. What some of my weakness are (I like to go a little fast and ride my edges) so that masks some of my errors so I had to watch out for that. My examiner confirmed these for me. He also told me that he didn't want to give me too many things to "work at" because he knew that more things to focus on might mess up things that I was doing well. I also got a big boost during my feedback on the first day. My March examiner came up to me and said quietly, "that run through Tom's Tumble... You NAILED it".... Big boost in confidence!


Day 2 was much like day one with less on hill feed back but some good quick reminders. "hands" "patience", etc. We also had a different examiner shadowing us for day 2. Another check and balance as well as different take on demos. Different images for us to see. Maybe some different insight into what we were doing well or needed to work on.  A few runs before lunch, the one confidence builder for me was after some dynamic short radius turns, I got held back for a moment by my examiner, as we were headed to the lift.. His feedback was "what ever you are using to stay focused, keep at it. You are skiing well"


Right after lunch, we went out as a group again. The first thing I heard was "Chute 75" and I was thinking. "Great, Right after lunch! and we just finished Hop turns right before lunch!"


This was where they told us at the top, Ski it top to bottom Variety of turn sizes and shapes. "Just good skiing"


By the time I got to the bottom on the first run I was struggling to keep the turns going but I pushed through.. They then took us up to the top and said, Do it again. and again for a third time. I knew it would not be safe for me to try to make the full run again so I decided to sacrifice an unbroken run top to bottom for better turn mechanics and a short break half way down. I did this for both the second and third run. I think I made much better turns all the way down than I would have been able to if I tried to make the full run. Some of the comments at the top of our last run were "Sure I'll make the same turn shape all the way down, "irregular"" or "you got to be kidding"


After the three runs down Chute 75, the exam just sort of ended (2:30).. It was getting mushy and sticky so I think they (the examiners) decided it might not be safe to push all the candidates too much more. They had probably all seen enough of our skiing to make a fair evaluation, and they still had to do all the paperwork, feedback forms and interviews before the end of the day. We were told we could take another run or two while they took care of the paperwork and that we would meet around 4:00 for interviews and feedback. I decided it was time to pack up and get some rest because I still had to drive home (4hr drive) that evening.


I was sitting in the room where we were to meet the examiners at 4:00 and since I was there he decided to give me my feed back first.


The first thing he said was "So, how do you think it went?'


My response was "I think I skied very well.. Except for a couple of "bobbles or hiccups" I think I skied consistently and strong. This was by far the best I skiing I've done in an exam..and that if not being able to ski top to bottom of Chute 75, three times in a row was going to keep me from passing, so be it, but I think the turns I made all the way down Chute 75 and both days were good solid turns"


That's when he smiled and said "I agree" and "You passed". We then went over the feed back. Most positive with hints on what I need to continue to focus on. Where my strengths were and what I need to get better at. But all in all I skied at or above the standard. He also confirmed that the examiner who shadowed our group all day had read his feedback to me and agreed with the assessment. 


That is also when I found out that I was the only one in our group to pass. The one other I thought might pass was skiing well but had one specific hitch in his skiing that I knew would be a hard flaw to overcome.


I'm now hoping to get some video of the day to look at and evaluate.






Bob Barnes was actually on the mountain with us and joined us for a few runs (by invitation of our examiner) during our March exam. Maybe he will chime in a little with his thoughts or observations.

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Nice write-up dchan.  Should be helpful to future candidates.




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So a few observations and comments about the process..


The new Coached format will vary a bit for different styles of running it but there seems to always be some oversight from other examiners or trainers that shadow the process. If not the whole time at least for several runs. I have observed this in every exam I have taken in the past several years. Almost every exam has had at least one day where the VP of Alpine training for PSIA-W has come out and skied with the group. The past few years it was El from Squaw.. This year it was Finlay, Our new VP for Alpine training.


I have been through the combined format and really found this new format more enjoyable as much as an exam can be.  I was able to just concentrate on skiing and not "watching intently" everyone else in case I was called on to do a Movement Analysis or teach something. As an Instructor, I think we all "watch and observe" just as a matter of course but not having to worry that "I missed something" was a great relief.


The station format I have observed, while probably would have benefited me as I did always seem to do well in the "tasks" area of the skiing and did have my "moments of brilliance" in each of the other area's that may have gotten me a pass,  I don't think I would have improved in my over all skiing nearly as much as I have. I probably would have been practicing all my demos and tasks to a point that I could do them all well enough to pass but would probably still be lacking the "fluidity of movements" and blending skills that brought me to where my skiing is now. It's been a great journey.


While the exam still has it's moments where it feels like a "call down" format, the examiners as a whole have been trying to make the process much more "user friendly" We ski a few spots, do a few tasks, then ski some more. They have generally tried to keep us moving instead of standing around and waiting for each other.. Depending on how well the examiners "playback" information in their mind, the amount of "call down" like runs were minimized. Some examiners after a particularly strange outcome of a specific task might have the group do a few exercises to get the group focused in a different way, then run the task again to see what if any that exercise did for us. A teaching moment if you will. Sometimes a slight change in focus made a huge difference in some of the candidates skiing. Not just for a specific task but in their skiing in general. These exercises might end up on the feedback sheet as ways to improve a specific aspect of our skiing.


Some of the examiners came right out in an instructional format. Yes we would still ski all the tasks and demos, along with the situational skiing but right out of the starting block it was "think about how your ankles effect your skiing", and would start with ankle movements (extension/flex movements) to get us thinking that way.. Then taking it right into pressure control and maybe into retraction/extension turns.


Other examiners seemed to be in the "let's do all the tasks one at a time" but there seemed to be a lot more interaction rather than someone standing at the bottom writing notes on a card while each person skied past. Feed back was usually immediate instead of at the end of the day or even the end of the exam. This puts the feelings and impressions of what a run felt like in context with the feedback.  There seemed to be more joking going on, moments where we would just stop somewhere to wait for a different examiner to catch up with us so the examiner would ask someone to tell their best joke received from a kid this season or your Ah Ha moment this season.


Some of the examiners used the other candidates to pass on feed back. As they sent each person down they told them to tell the person who went down before them what we saw and what to work on. This was great from a teaching/observing stand point because we were able to hear the comments of the examiner as the person was skiing away. We could put a picture to the feedback. Or we would group with the examiner as each other person skied towards us and they would point out what they are seeing and then have one of us relay that feed back while they observed another candidate.


Being with the same examiner for 2 days (or three days in the old format) for me, made it easier to get comfortable and probably helped me relax and ski better. With the oversight of additional examiners and the group ski portions really put me at ease that the process was going to be fair and still held to the same standard regardless of the style of the examiner.


One thing I did miss from earlier exams was Video feed back but I do understand it takes time away from the exam and means more "standing around" as well as time to go back and review it.


I think one thing I may do next year is offer my services to ski around with the exam (l2 and l3) and see if they will give me ed credit and a lift ticket. I am pretty good at Video work and I think it would benefit all of the candidates. With an outside person taking video, the exam could just go on as normal as far as flow.. the only thing would be coordinating where to meet and time to review.

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I figured I should give you all some of the text on our skiing requirements.. This is from the tech team manual on the PSIA-W Website found here.

http://psia-w.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Alpine-Tech-Team-Manual-2011-12.pdf (page 43)

The feedback form for when we get daily feed back and if we pass or fail is on page 50


General Characteristics

The candidate will be able to:
• Ski dynamic-parallel turns on any terrain on most mountains
• Reduce, generate, or maintain speed without interrupting overall flow or rhythm
• Ski a variety of turn sizes and shapes and apply them to different mountain situations
• Demonstrate different types of skill blends and movement patterns in exercises, tasks, and turns upon request, and as applied in different mountain situations
• Maintain control over turn shape and speed while skiing most conditions on any terrain on most mountains


Balance (Level III Advanced zone terrain, speed, and dynamics)
The candidate will be able to:
• Maintain lateral and fore-aft balance through turn transitions, as balance shifts from foot to foot through terrain and conditional variations
• Demonstrate an ability to consistently maintain the balanced relationship of the hips and the feet through all phases of the turn
• Utilize proactive movements which anticipate ski reaction and create balance adjustments, minimizing the interruption of rhythm and flow in most situations common to all mountain skiing

Rotary Movements (Level III Advanced zone terrain, speed, and dynamics)
The candidate will be able to:
• Use an appropriate amount of rotational guiding to assist edge engagement and direction change when dictated by conditions, terrain, or task
• Demonstrate consistent guiding of both feet into and out of the fall line, creating two well defined arcs in the snow (minimal tail displacement)
• Utilize strong, accurate rotational movements in conditions, terrain, and tasks which require quick direction change with minimal side cut engagement

Edge Control Movements (Level III Advanced zone terrain, speed, and dynamics)
The candidate will be able to:
• Begin tipping of the skis from uphill edges to the downhill edges before turning the skis toward the fall line (minimal pivoting to an (edge) in most conditions on any terrain on most mountains
• Demonstrate progressive, dynamic increase and decrease of edge angle throughout the phases of the turn

• Utilize sidecut/ski design as the primary component controlling turn shape in most conditions in most situations

Pressure Control Movements (Level III Advanced zone, Terrain, speed, and dynamics)
The candidate will be able to:
• Maintain ski-snow contact when appropriate to condition, task, or demonstration
• Adjust movements to maintain, increase, or decrease pressure and turn forces as conditions, tasks, or demonstrations require, while maintaining turn shape and accuracy
• Demonstrate a gradual increase in pressure to the outside ski throughout round turns in most conditions in most conditions on any terrain on most mountains.
• Adapt to terrain variables with minimal interference with ski performance

post #5 of 9
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Our feedback page has the following information on it.  The bold text is the task.

Each of the bullet points under each task are characteristics of each task and next to each bullet point is a space to show if the candidate needs improvement, meets the standard or exceeds the standard. and space for notes on what was good or bad. how to improve, etc.



1. Dynamic Short Radius Turns
• Carved skill blend.
• Early and progressive edging.
• Good management of pressure skills through turn.
• Efficient and effective pole plant.
• Upper/lower body separation
• Upper body disciplined.

2. Dynamic Medium Radius Turns
• Pure carved skill blend managed through edging and pressure
• Active crossover movement for early edge engagement.
• Good balance over outside ski through strong angulation.
• Continuous and progressive edging, no park and ride.
• Round turn shape without a traverse.

3. Bumps
• Speed control through a blend of tactics and technique.
• Strong pressure control skills to maintain ski snow contact
• Upper body discipline.
• Upper/lower body separation.

• Blocking pole plant if making short radius turns

4. Steeps & Off Piste
• Good blending of skills and tactical choices for terrain with speed control.
• Strong leg turning/ upper body discipline.
• Commitment in cross over to move downhill.
• Strong edging through the finish phase of the turn.
• Functional pole plant reaching downhill.

5. Hop Turns
• Simultaneous leg movement, skis leave snow at the same time
• Flexing to absorb landing with minimal slipping.
• Blocking pole plant, stable upper body.
• Strong leg turning, legs rotate in hip socket


6. Extension / Retraction Turns
• Center of mass stays at same height above snow through a series of turns while maintaining a balanced stance.
• Legs actively retract while the center of mass crosses the skis.
• Timing of the extension retraction movements


7. Pivot Slips in a Corridor
• Strong leg turning, skis pivot under foot, no body rotation.
• Solid edge release and then engaged slightly with ankles and knees to maintain speed control.
• Legs rotate in hip socket under a stable upper body

8. One Ski
• Stable upper body, good athletic position and balance.
• One ski stays off snow for a series of turns.
• Round turn shape with minimal skidding.


9. Railroad Tracks
• Pure-carved skill blend that leaves 2 distinct arcs in snow.
• Turns use edge and pressure control skills, no leg turning
• Edging from ankles and knees, and when speed increases the ankles, knees and hip.

Situational Skiing:
• Park/Pipe
• Race Course
• Steeps

post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 

Of course each of the tasks are primarily ways for the examiners to evaluate and find specific deficiencies in our skill blends so learning and practicing the each task helps us learn to isolate and hopefully blend all of the skills required to be better skiers.


In our exam we skied from early morning on very firm snow and icy corduroy, all the way to mush crud and fly paper snow.. L3, All conditions all over the mountain, any time...



post #7 of 9

Very informative.  Thanks for being so thorough, dchan.

This write-up can be helpful to lots of people.

post #8 of 9
Originally Posted by dchan View Post

Of course each of the tasks are primarily ways for the examiners to evaluate and find specific deficiencies in our skill blends so learning and practicing the each task helps us learn to isolate and hopefully blend all of the skills required to be better skiers.

In our exam we skied from early morning on very firm snow and icy corduroy, all the way to mush crud and fly paper snow.. L3, All conditions all over the mountain, any time...


Hopefully examiners are looking for strengths, not deficiencies. They aren't there to fail folks, they're there to pass those who qualify.
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
Originally Posted by Kneale Brownson View Post

Hopefully examiners are looking for strengths, not deficiencies. They aren't there to fail folks, they're there to pass those who qualify.

I am sure they are. The tasks as I'm sure you are aware show where our strengths are as well as our weaknesses.


In my case, I could do most if not all of the tasks quite well. (one of my strengths) however when it came down to skiing in all conditions all the time, the "harmony" of skiing or blending of all those skills was what was lacking in my skiing. That as all of you keep reminding me (and I keep reminding myself) is miles on the feet. More time skiing. Especially that really strange snow and in more challenging conditions..

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