Originally Posted by Sinecure
/\/\ THIS is one of the reasons I find it so annoying that Epic won't let you edit posts more than a little while after you create them. Your first post came off as being the authoritative, know-it-all and complete answer that there was no f'ing way that Intuition made Scarpa liners. And no one here was smart or alert enough to call you out on your ignorance. In your defense, you fixed it in a later post, but most people read the first couple things and then either reply or move on - regardless of how late they may be to the party.
Intuition makes liners for Scarpa, Dalbello, Raichle (aka DeeLuxe) and probably others as well. And until reading this, I was pretty sure that Thermoflex was just another brand name for Intuition - used by Raichle and Scarpa. I had Thermoflex liners in an old pair of Raichle hard snowboard boots that were definitely the same stuff as Intuition liners. Then again, given that your first post was so completely wrong, I'm fairly sure that your most recent one (directly above) is likely wrong about the Thermoflex vs. Ultralon issue. AFAIK, Thermoflex = Ultralon, and I'm never wrong on the internet.
To answer the OP's question, I'm 99.9% sure those TT liners on STP are Intuition and you'll like them, as long as you don't try to mold them at home using questionable methods espoused by internet ski dweebs like us.
I said I had never heard of Intuition making Scarpa liners before, and that if they were doing so now, I didn't believe that was always the case. I finished by saying I could be wrong. I was inviting someone to show me if I was. You haven't.
I've had Raichle Thermoflex too, and I noticed a decided difference when I replaced them with Intuitions, the foam is stiffer. I just went over to them while composing this post, and did a comparison again, did you? Or are you just going by memory of something that you used to have?
You are doing exactly what you are accusing me of, puffing yourself up as superior, while doling out an anecdotal opinion. Pathetic hypocrisy. If you want to call me out as full of shit, come with stronger stuff, and speak to what I wrote, not to what you feel it "came off as". I'm not responsible for the distortion your emotional state lends to my words, only for my intent, which you failed to discern.
If Intuition and Thermoflex are the same, show me, I have no problem admitting I'm wrong when proven so. However, my Scarpa liners aren't branded Intuition like the ones pictured above, and Intuition seems to be very much inclined to attach their brand to the liners they make for other brands, such as Scarpa, Full Tilt, Dalbello and probably others. I read the Intuition "about us" history page on their website, and there was no mention of Thermoflex, which seems odd if it was a brand using their proprietary foam. Why wouldn't they claim a highly recognizable brand if it was just another name for their product?