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According to http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20120425/NEWS/120429883/1078&ParentProfile=1055 this guy has over 7 M this year at the Epic resorts and may get another 2 M at A-Basin.  Back to Back days of 120 K vert at Keystone.  Pretty amazing if it is close to accurate.

 

Here is his Epic Mix page https://www.epicmix.com/user-profile.aspx?TimeTagId=780&ProfileId=5451206

post #2 of 18

Thats a lotta vert!

post #3 of 18

My first thought is how much of his skiing is drudgery and how much of it is fun?  He appears to be having fun and successfully gauging his remarkable durablity for a 60+ year old.  I think article said he racked up nearly as much vertical last year?  He also seems to have a goal-oriented, obsessive personality and has really thrown himself into other specific activities during his life.  In a way I envy him, but I would be concerned that he'll burn out or get hurt cutting short his "prolific ski bum" career.  For now he seems to enjoy the challenge.

 

Remember this similar guy at Sugarloaf?  It is interesting that he began to feel like a prisoner to a 24 year ski streak and once the streak was over he said, "I ski like a human being now."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2005-03-17-skier_x.htm

post #4 of 18

That's pretty cool, despite how overrated vertical is in general.  I'll take 20k of powder / trees / off piste over 40k of groomers any day of the week.

post #5 of 18

the perfect attendance/near-perfect attendance for past seasons is the most amazing to me, over the pure vert

post #6 of 18

rode up w/ him opening day at abasin. seemed slightly eccentric but not as much as i would've guessed from someone who skis like this. hard to imagine that still being enjoyable. 

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. hard to imagine that still being enjoyable. 

I would imagine it's more meditative.  

 

Not everything is gnar bro.

 

post #8 of 18

hah, never mentioned teh gnar. i'm saying lapping the same run thousands of time over a season. seems a little neurotic doesn't it? 

post #9 of 18

I find skiing in the east at smaller resorts where I may do the same run many times that each time is different in some way, I am working on something different, working on a different aspect of the same issue and in addition, the conditions change a bit (or dramatically) during the course of the day. I just never think of it as "lapping the same run" but them maybe I am neurotic about my drills.

post #10 of 18

choosing a run you like and working on your form is one thing. finding the chair that gives you the most vertical seems different. there is so much great skiing out here and he has the 5 mountain pass but he kept doing the same one run at keystone. 

post #11 of 18
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choosing a run you like and working on your form is one thing. finding the chair that gives you the most vertical seems different. there is so much great skiing out here and he has the 5 mountain pass but he kept doing the same one run at keystone. 

Just as a tree seems to never change when you're looking at it,  if you see him do the same run 100laps in a row or even 500times in a row, is still just a snapshot into his season when you're up 170days a year.

post #12 of 18
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choosing a run you like and working on your form is one thing. finding the chair that gives you the most vertical seems different. there is so much great skiing out here and he has the 5 mountain pass but he kept doing the same one run at keystone. 

From what I understand, the guy lives in KS (or nearby), so it makes sense that he would do more days there.  You have to take at least one lift to get to Santigo and there is no night skiing on North Peak, so I think he mixed it up a bit at KS,  

 

The thing I found unusual was looking at his stats was the days where he went to 3 resorts and only taking 1 or 2 chairlift rides at 2 of them...I guess extra check ins mean extra "Pins"

 

I am still impressed by the guys stamina, but the guys I know who saw him ski this year were not all that impressed with his form.

post #13 of 18
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I am still impressed by the guys stamina, but the guys I know who saw him ski this year were not all that impressed with his form.

But it's clearly good enough to get him down the hill.  A LOT.  Maybe his form contributes to his stamina.  "Form" as a concept is always evolving anyway, so IMO if you get where you want to go, who cares?

post #14 of 18

Pfft, he probably just duct tapes his phone to the lift under/behind a chair in the morning then picks it up at the end of the daydevil.gif

post #15 of 18

Someone should tell this guy it's about quality, not quantity. 

 

That is a ton of vert though. Keep in mind that greg hill skied 2 million in a year and he was hiking up bagging peaks, not hot lapping a chair. 

post #16 of 18
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But it's clearly good enough to get him down the hill.  A LOT.  Maybe his form contributes to his stamina.  "Form" as a concept is always evolving anyway, so IMO if you get where you want to go, who cares?

I guess it depends on what your goals are.

 

I had the pleasure to ski last week with Bob Barnes at A-Basin and he said that skiing gets easier and easier until you improve to a certain level (~a good "park and ride" turn) but after that point, you need to put more and more effort in to become more and more dynamic.  He had me try skating at the beginning of some runs to try to get the feel of using the energy of the ski to ~push off and move into the next turn.  Definitely more work than I was used to, but I think it will help me take my skiing to the next level next year.

 

OTOH, my daughter still remembers when Ric Rieder told her that the best skier on the mountain is the one with the biggest smile.  

post #17 of 18

Note I said that if you can go where you want to go.  If you want to go places you can't and changing your technique is going to do that, then certainly it makes sense.  BUT.  "Dynamic" just to be labeled or seen as such, in and of itself, is nothing.  Only when it helps you do something you want to do does it have any value.  

post #18 of 18
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Note I said that if you can go where you want to go.  If you want to go places you can't and changing your technique is going to do that, then certainly it makes sense.  BUT.  "Dynamic" just to be labeled or seen as such, in and of itself, is nothing.  Only when it helps you do something you want to do does it have any value.  

 

Does having a big smile on your face because you made a more dynamic turn that felt better on a run you had skied 100 times before have any "value"?  Everyone is different, but for me, working on improving my technique and being able to properly carve turns made flatter terrain much more interesting for me to ski.    

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