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post #1 of 14
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I need advice and help finding the right AT off-piste ski. I'm 150 lbs and 172 cm, currently riding Kästle MX78's and looking a second ski - a more off-piste oriented ski with AT-bindings for  trips mostly in the european alps and Scandinavia. Six feet of fluffy powder is rare where I go, but a feet of soft snow is not unusual, and often varying conditions between soft and harder snow. I'd say I'm at an advanced level (at least in groomed pistes), skiing for about 30 years.

 

Where do I begin? Is 100+ mm waist the way to go, or would the 90-100 range be better for a guy my size?

 

 

post #2 of 14

Welcome. A couple of skis that come to mind are the current Kaslte FX104 if you like the Kastle feel and prefer a more traditional ski, or the Prior Husume XTC if you like a bit of mild rocker and a bit less weight. Next year Kaslte is making a fatter TX ski, around 107 mm I think, that might be perfect. A lot of people also like the new DPS W99 for this; it'll be the most surfy of the skis I mention, also the lightest by a hair. 

post #3 of 14
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Yes, the TX 107 is interesting. The Husume too (don't think I can find Priors in Europe, though). 


Others that have crossed my mind are Black Crows Navis, Line Prophet 98, Blizzard Cochise, Black Diamond Verdict, Watea 98/101, Icelandic Nomad, Völkl Gotama... 


Edited by descent - 4/10/12 at 9:42am
post #4 of 14
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To be more precise, the ski should be:

- fun and playful

- not very stiff - doesn't have to be good at high speeds

- easy to turn in tight places

- not too heavy

- wide enough to float a 150 pounder in powder

- good in mixed snow conditions

 

Great if it's last years model or later so I can find it on sale...

 

The FX104 might be it. More suggestions?

 

 

post #5 of 14
Black Diamond Drift or Justice (<-highly recommended)
K2 Coomback.
Volkl Nunataq.

All excellent AT skis with the qualities you listed.
post #6 of 14

ON3P, a small manufacturer in Portland Oregon is making a touring version of their Vicick, a rocker/cambered 105mm ski.  They use full bamboo cores in all their skis and the touring versions replace some of the bamboo with carbon.  I have been on the touring version of the Billy Goat (119mm) and they were much lighter.  They will also give you a variety of options for top sheets, they can make them stiffer,...........and other custom options.  Their skis are extremely well built and durable, AND, very competitively prices.  They would probably be worth a look.  There are several reviews of all their models at Teton Gravity.  Good luck with your search.

 

LT

post #7 of 14

You might also ask on the pistehors web site--which is oriented to European off piste skiing. I don't imagine the smaller US brands are available in Europe.  The one time I skied in the Alps--in Chamonix--I did notice that the guides all had AT setups with narrower skis than are popular in the US--under 100mm.  

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You might also ask on the pistehors web site--which is oriented to European off piste skiing. I don't imagine the smaller US brands are available in Europe.  The one time I skied in the Alps--in Chamonix--I did notice that the guides all had AT setups with narrower skis than are popular in the US--under 100mm.  


Good point.  On that note, I will also add the Volkl Nanuq to my list above.  

post #9 of 14
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The BD Drift is a nice addition. Going to look more into that. 

 

ON3P - yes, probably hard to find here. Great concept, though. 

 

Will check out pistehors web. Mountaineering is very popular in France, so I guess a lot of those guys are into climbing and long tours, where weight is top priority (light, mid 80's skis).

I however intend to do only shorter tours, starting from the lifts.

...but I wouldn't want to rule out the possibility to do longer day trips.


Edited by descent - 4/11/12 at 10:42am
post #10 of 14
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Yes, the Nanuq/Nunataq looks great for touring as well.

post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post

You might also ask on the pistehors web site--which is oriented to European off piste skiing. I don't imagine the smaller US brands are available in Europe.  The one time I skied in the Alps--in Chamonix--I did notice that the guides all had AT setups with narrower skis than are popular in the US--under 100mm.  


After more reading and talking, I realize how good this point is. It's harder to follow a trail made by sub 80 mm skis with a +100 mm ski. I'm also starting to understand the value of lighter equipment for touring even if it is just day trips. I'm going to look for sizes 88-96 mm, where I think the trade-off might be small for the skiing experience. 

 

So, now I'm leaning towards:

 

K2 Wayback (88 cm, 1,4 kg)
K2 Backlash (92 cm, 1,75 kg, discontinued)
 
Black Diamond Aspect (90 cm, 2,7 kg) 
 
Dynafit Manaslu (92 cm, 1,4 kg)
 
Völkl Nanuq (96 cm, 1,65 kg)
Völkl Amaruq (88 cm, 1,4kg)
 
Movement Logic (88 cm, 2,4 kg)

 

post #12 of 14

Don't discount the Atomic Charter from your list.

post #13 of 14

4FRNT Turbo is another ski to consider.

post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by descent View Post

 

K2 Wayback (88 cm, 1,4 kg)
K2 Backlash (92 cm, 1,75 kg, discontinued)
 
Black Diamond Aspect (90 cm, 2,7 kg) 
 
Dynafit Manaslu (92 cm, 1,4 kg)
 
Völkl Nanuq (96 cm, 1,65 kg)
Völkl Amaruq (88 cm, 1,4kg)
 
Movement Logic (88 cm, 2,4 kg)

 

 

Sorry, got the weights wrong. For the pair:

 

K2 Wayback (88 cm, 2,9 kg)
K2 Backlash (92 cm, 3,5 kg)
 
Black Diamond Aspect (90 cm, 2,7 kg) 
 
Dynafit Manaslu (92-95 cm, 2,6 kg)
 
Völkl Nanuq (96 cm, 3,2 kg)
Völkl Amaruq (88 cm, 2,8 kg)
 
Movement Logic (88 cm, 2,5 kg)
 
...but actually I'm leaning towards a 100 mm ski right now. Might be more fun in the end, I think.

 

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