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So I have decided that I am going to wax my own skis from now on with real hot wax (and maybe some friends too) and I am not really sure what stuff I actually need.  Obviously I will need an iron and wax, but I'm not sure what kinds of scrapers, cleaners, etc. I need.  Also, should I bother getting many kinds of wax for different temperatures?  Where I ski (wWsconsin and the UP) mostly it isn't too cold or warm, usually in the teens or 20's.  

 

Thanks a lot for the help.

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Since you are just getting into waxing, an old clothes iron will do the trick. Get that, and some all-temp hydrocarbon wax. A base cleaner can be used, but it's not necessary. Just wipe the bases clean. You'll also need a good scraper, plastic is easier on bases, metal is handy for doing p-tex work. A waxing brush is also a must. Buy some Scotch-Brite pads, and some thin microfiber cloth for a final buffing. As you wax more, experiment with different waxes and techniques. Your needs seem fairly basic, so I gave you some basic advice. My waxing routine is fairly basic as well, as I'm a park skier and wax lasts about a day. However, it gets complicated really fast. You should try waxing for XC racers (the rest of my family). Those guys are nuts.

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Originally Posted by chickenonabun View Post

So I have decided that I am going to wax my own skis from now on with real hot wax (and maybe some friends too) and I am not really sure what stuff I actually need.  Obviously I will need an iron and wax, but I'm not sure what kinds of scrapers, cleaners, etc. I need.  Also, should I bother getting many kinds of wax for different temperatures?  Where I ski (wWsconsin and the UP) mostly it isn't too cold or warm, usually in the teens or 20's.  

 

Thanks a lot for the help.



What flatlandr said plus this:  All you need is a good universal wax unless you are racing.  Ask five people and you will get 8 or 9 answers about which wax is best.  You can't go wrong with any of the major manufacturers,  Some sites sell 250 gram bricks of shop/training wax for only $10-$14.   The advantage of a better quality waxing iron (aside from no holes, which don't matter if you are using a universal wax) is temperature control.  The 135 degree setting on an iron may really be 150, 125 or whatever.  But the better irons will have minimal temperature fluctuations making it easier to wax.  Learning how to wax and do basic P-Tex repair is easy now that there are videos all over the Internet. 

 

post #5 of 11
A real waxing iron is a good investment and the basic ones are fairly cheap. The temperature control won't be as precise as a more expensive one, but is fine for the basic recreational all-temperature waxes. Much better than a clothes iron (which you will ruin anyway and wont be able to iron clothes with any more), which can get too hot for the wax and ruin your bases. Use the lowest temp that will melt the wax. No smoke.

Take a look at tognar.com. They have good starter equipment and packages and good information on their site. Also take a look at the Swix and Toko websites. They have waxing manuals for basic recreational skiing (not complicated).

The basics:
Wax
Iron
Plastic scraper
Something to hold back the brake

Brushes, Scotchbrite, etc. are nice, but not essential in my opinion. The extra wax on the ski surface will abrade off after a few runs anyway.

One easy technique that I like and which eliminates scraping (which is messy and makes the floor wicked slippery) is to crayon the cold wax on the whole baseinstead of dripping it, then run the iron over a piece of fiberlene paper instead of directly on the base. The paper absorbs the extra wax and even picks up dirt from the bases.
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All of the above, although brushing is an important aspect if you want your skis to be fast. Brushing clears the melted wax from whatever structure is on your ski base, and lets that structure work as it was designed to work.  So, all of the above, but $10 invested in a good, moderately stiff brush will be a good addition to the starter pack.

 

Be careful though, you're stepping through the looking glass here ... wink.gif   

post #7 of 11

Rather than a base cleaner, I'd recommend hot scraping the skis. The process is very simple, melt a cheap soft wax (like a CH 10) or a conditioning wax  on the base, run the iron over it (temp about 100C) until it is melted and then scrape the wax off before it hardens. Then apply your wax of the day and let it harden. My other recommendation is use a plastic drop cloth, waxing is messy going on (drips) and coming off (little wax particles).

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Make sure you get a plastic scraper that is thick enough.  I really like the 5mm plexi one I use.  Also, make sure you have a way to keep it sharp.  A drywall sanding screen on a flat surface works for this.

post #9 of 11
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Ok so I got an iron and scraper from REI, the iron was some swix thing and the scraper is a 5 mm wintersteiger something or other.  I also ordered the 3/4 lb brick of super hotsauce from hertel because I've heard its a great all purpose wax.  I think this should be it, except for maybe scotchbrite pads.  

post #10 of 11

Yep, you're off and running ... and I love your work.

 

Now, what are you using as a vise?  My tuning history includes a two-part vise where I'd clamp onto the skis and find the tips and tails would flop around whilst I was trying to scrape.  Inevitably that meant a reinvestment in a new triple-system vise to support the tip and tail.  I can't tell you how much more smoothly a waxing afternoon runs once your skis are properly secured for the job.

 

A good vise set, sharp scrapers and a beer fridge are three things I wholeheartedly recommend when it comes to waxing skis.  Now, if you want to talk edges, we're in a whole different league.

 

Good luck with your new setup, and let us know how you get on.

 

 

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In a pinch you can keep beer in the main kitchen fridge!
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