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post #61 of 75
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Hello Everyone .  I started a new thread and then I realized I should have replied to this thread. Sorry.

 

Would appreciate  any feedback from anyone. Specially Stephen.

 

 

 My  Local shop has last year's  2012 Soma Vac Hybrid 12 .  I have a choice of this  2012 with an Intuition Liner or 2013 with it's own liner. Both about the same price. What do you suggest?  
 
Also ,  Stephen's  book mentions  3/8" for an expert in the rear of the shell. I'm getting almost an inch on the 2012 with my normal 26.5. But it feels good with the liner. Maybe too good?
 
Thanks. 
 
Jack.
 

 

Of course it feels good.  They are too big.  

post #62 of 75

HakJack

 

I have the 2012 12+ with a thinner ZipFit liner as I needed a wider toe box and more arch room. An expensive fix though. By report, the new liner should be a significant improvement over last year's POS liner. Maybe just try on each choice and see what seems to fit better. The intuition liner is a known product and the new Fisher liner is not. Good luck

post #63 of 75

Thanks SureFootDenver, how do you like the boots?

post #64 of 75

Love, love, love them. I always skied in pain before them. I had great performance with custom foam liners, but really needed a custom (semi-custom) shell for comfort. They are easy in/easy out and don't have to muck with the buckle adjustments. Turn initiation is great. Definitely ski better now. I will probably stop by the boot fitter and drop off some more beer. :beercheer:

post #65 of 75

I think you need to change your Username.

I thought I made a mistake by calling you SUREFootDenver before, but actually that makes more sense now. 

The salesman called me and they're waiting for the 2013 vacuums. I have a deposit on the 2012. I'll try both and see how they feel. The Salesman is leaning towards the 2012 with new liners. He says Intuition Liners are always better than what the boot comes with.

post #66 of 75

LOL

 

Did go to a Surefoot store once with my sore feet and came away unimpressed. The guy I talked to said the custom footbeds and foam liners solve everything..........

post #67 of 75

What happened the the write up in the front of this thread? Anyone coming new to this thread is left with comments on a missing review?

post #68 of 75
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What happened the the write up in the front of this thread? Anyone coming new to this thread is left with comments on a missing review?

 

Yes.    And that's OK.    


The new reader should seek a new review based on current information and the current boot market context, not hang on to 3-year-old impressions based on old markets, old tech state, old methods.

post #69 of 75
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Originally Posted by srl1215 View Post

 
What happened the the write up in the front of this thread? Anyone coming new to this thread is left with comments on a missing review?

Yes.    And that's OK.    



The new reader should seek a new review based on current information and the current boot market context, not hang on to 3-year-old impressions based on old markets, old tech state, old methods.

Don't agree. Feels like revisionist history. Do I get to wipe my old posts that no longer reflect my views, or that maybe don't sit well with professional contacts or something? (Not saying that's what's up with Skiing-in-Jackson, just making a point.) What if the poster is considering buying a three year old model?

If you're going to take down the originating post in a thread - especially, as I recall, a long and interesting one - the whole thread should be taken down.
post #70 of 75
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Originally Posted by srl1215 View Post

 
What happened the the write up in the front of this thread? Anyone coming new to this thread is left with comments on a missing review?

Yes.    And that's OK.    



The new reader should seek a new review based on current information and the current boot market context, not hang on to 3-year-old impressions based on old markets, old tech state, old methods.

Don't agree. Feels like revisionist history. Do I get to wipe my old posts that no longer reflect my views, or that maybe don't sit well with professional contacts or something? (Not saying that's what's up with Skiing-in-Jackson, just making a point.) What if the poster is considering buying a three year old model?

If you're going to take down the originating post in a thread - especially, as I recall, a long and interesting one - the whole thread should be taken down.

 

On the other hand, imagine having a front porch in a small village.    Everyone knows it's yours.   BUT!   you are not allowed to clean it or redecorate it or get rid of the 1970s sofa you put out there 20 years ago for some visitors to hang out and smoke on.

Users not being able to edit their posts when they like is just like that hypothetical porch, only online.

And someone buying a three-year old boot should do in the context of today's market alternatives, using today's thinking on molding, heating and liners (and plastics longevity).

post #71 of 75
Interesting thought. Don't buy the analogy, though. Everyone knows a post is a snapshot in time, duly dated. Not so your front porch.
post #72 of 75

Anyway, The review is probably no longer valid. A lot of things have changed in the last three years.

 

Fischer improved their vac machine & process this year. Just had my third pair of 130 pro vac done up the other day. The new process use a two section pressure bag. Separate pressure selection for the fore foot & the ankle area. I had the ankle set at 360 & the fore foot at 180 (my foot is wide-ish). Let me tell you, I can really feel the ankle section of the boot molding around mine ankle a lot more than the previous two.

 

So yes, in this case the deleted review is no longer valid.

 

BTW, another guy was getting his new Atomic race boot heat molded on the same machine. The new atomic boot with the carbon fiber cuff looked really cool. Wanted a pair, but my new Fischer was a warranty replacement - can't beat the price.         

post #73 of 75

Edit


Edited by tetonpwdrjunkie - 1/18/15 at 5:06pm
post #74 of 75

I was interested in this boot when it first came out, and it popped up on my EpicSki Subscription updates. Now, considering new boots again, I clicked on the thread link. I think I'll poke around some more for my new boots. 

 

Sorry for the dust-up.

post #75 of 75
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I was interested in this boot when it first came out, and it popped up on my EpicSki Subscription updates. Now, considering new boots again, I clicked on the thread link. I think I'll poke around some more for my new boots. 

 

Sorry for the dust-up.

 

I still like the Fischer vacuum process.  I'm in my third set of the boots, they fit and ski great for me.

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