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Which ski should I get and is okay to buy demo skis?

Poll Results: Which ski should I pick?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Salomon BBR
  • 40% of voters (2)
    Line Sir Frances Bacon
  • 80% of voters (4)
    Rossignol Experience 98
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Salomon Sentinel
  • 20% of voters (1)
    Volkl Bridge
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Volkl Gotama
  • 20% of voters (1)
    Atomic Theory
5 Total Votes  
post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

I am 170lbs and 6'4". I ski mostly blacks/doubles and am looking for a good all around ski that I can take all over the mountain. I have narrowed it down to the following skis, based on my budget and current availability. All are demos being sold, except for the Atomic Theory's which I would buy new (they are all comprably priced). First off, is there any major problem buying demo skis, I don't have a ton of money to spend on nice new skis. Second and most importantly, which of the following skis are best and how should I pick between them. Let me know if there is more info I should post about how/what I ski. Thanks for the help!

 

 

Salomon BBR

Line Sir Frances Bacon 

Rossignol Experience 98

Salomon Sentinel 

Volkl Bridge 

Volkl Gotama 

Atomic Theory

post #2 of 18

No problem with demo skis. The group you listed are so all over the map that it's really hard to begin to steer you in the right direction. Where are you skiing? How much time on piste vs. off, etc...? Do you ski double blacks with ease, or do you just get down them? Besides deep blower fluff and bluebird, what is your favorite condition? You like bumps? Your area have a lot of crud and chopped up powder 45 minutes after opening on a big snow day?

post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 

I ski almost exclusively at Crystal Mountain in Washington State, although next year I will likely be doing some skiing at Tahoe in California as well. I spend most of my time off-piste, although I want to be able to spend a day on the groomers every now and then with friends that aren't necessarily as experienced. I have been skiing on a 13 year old pair of skis designed for beginners-intermediates so with those, I generally just try to get down double blacks. The last time I went up I demoed some good skis and it basically changed my world! Made skiing the double blacks way easier - not necessarily easy (yet, i plan to improve once i spend a few more days on good skis :) ) but definitely comfortable skiing on double blacks with the good skis. Favorite conditions would probably be soft-pack, exploring new runs off-piste. Not a huge fan of the trees. I don't necessarily enjoy bumps, but I don't hate them either. At Crystal you can usually get far enough away from the crowds to avoid the worst of the crud, but there can definitely be some. I don't know what the crud situation is at Tahoe, but i am sure someone on here does. I hope this is enough info to give you a better idea of what I need, I appreciate it! 

post #4 of 18

As far as buying demo skis, it is just like buying a used car.  For the same model of skis, you may get a steal for a set of skis in great condition that have only been out a few times; or you may get a well-travelled clunker with lots of problems.  The bindings also you need to be careful that they are in good condition.  You're going to have to evaluate the ski, or listen to the shop's self-evaluation of condition.

 

As far as the ski itself, if there is no serious damage, budget for a tuneup and that will fix up most of the ski issues.  

post #5 of 18
+1 on buying demo skis. If they're in good shape, there's no problem at all.

And totally agree with markojp. Your choices are all over the map. It might be helpful, IMO, if you could say why each of those skis are on your list. What is it about each one that makes you think it's a good fit.
post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by kennyatcrystal View Post

 The last time I went up I demoed some good skis and it basically changed my world!


What ski? Knowing this will help find a ski that might be similar on your list. 

 

post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 

I demoed the Volkl Gotama. I loved them off-piste in the pow, but am leaning towards something that can hold up just a bit better on the groomers as well. 

post #8 of 18
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post

+1 on buying demo skis. If they're in good shape, there's no problem at all.
And totally agree with markojp. Your choices are all over the map. It might be helpful, IMO, if you could say why each of those skis are on your list. What is it about each one that makes you think it's a good fit.


I mainly just looked for skis that were well reviewed as doing it all with an emphasis on off-piste skiing. I will say the BBR's are on the list just because they sounded interesting and maybe worth taking for a run to see what they felt like, otherwise, I'm sorry, I know very little about buying skis, maybe you guys could explain the differences between the skis so I can get a better idea of what I should be looking for. I tried to get a waist width of roughly 95-105 because that seemed the best for a ski that was good off-piste and in powder, but could handle the groomers. Otherwise, just reviews and what is available in my length at the Mountain Shop. I am hoping to go up this weekend or early next week and try them all out, but I am trying to eliminate at least a couple first since it would be pretty hard to try out seven skis in one day up on the mountain. 

post #9 of 18

Kenny, I'm going skiing now otherwise I'd answer, but do a quick search. There's a lot written about most of these skis, particularly the E98 (which I'm guessing might not be what you want. If you do try it, don't go longer than 180 at your weight.) A Blizzard Cochise or Bonefide might hit the sweet spot for you and be versatile enough for the wide range of daily conditions you find at CM. I also like the Head Inferno if there are any up there. Maybe the Sentinel. hmmmm.  

post #10 of 18

I'm quite happy with the Demo skis I bought from the Hunter Mountain shop (Atomic GS9s).  They were tuned and waxed beautifully when I got them, and didn't even look used.

 

Condition is everything.

post #11 of 18

I am as much concerned in which bindings are on the demo skis as the skis themselves. I am not a fan of the Look demo binding, it is very heavy. The Marker Griffon (& Jester) demos are the closest to the consumer counterpart version. Now, in your list, the Sentinal and Bridge are probably the most versatile of the skis. 

post #12 of 18

Demo skis are a great way to save money!  I have a bunch for sale over on TGR, check them out!

 

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/241955-FS-2012-2013-Klint-Demo-Skis

 

 

post #13 of 18

I have been very happy with my Bridge's this past year.  I am 5'9" 179# (and losing more hopefully!) and am on 179's.  That being said, I have never skied them in fresh powder yet.  I am sure they wont dissapoint

post #14 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the help guys! Does anyone have opinions on the Atomic Theory skis, as they are the one pair it would be difficult to try.

post #15 of 18

I have skied the Atomic Theory several times this year. They are softer, good in conditions where you need a wide ski (95mm), have a GS turn radius, they naturaly like bigger radius turns. If you know how and get the binding placement right (don't trust the factory line) they can pivot nicely in soft snow. In hardpack and ice they don't have great grip, just OK grip. Basically I liked them and if I wasn't going to ski ice they would be a good ski. They absorb the terrain better than almost any other ski I have been on, but aren't like a soft noodle powder ski. They are very easy to ski, but don't give a lot of snap or spring back to you.  Also, get the 185cm ish length, much better edge hold and top speed than the 175 length. I don't know enough about your other choices to comment on where I would rank these.

 

I bought a pair of Ullr's Chariots from Ski Logik and I would reccomend that over any of your other choices. The Chariot can do anything, anywhere, anytime. Its not the best at any one thing, but it isn't that far from the best in basically every aspect. Most versatile ski you will ever own. You can find a demo for around $500 if you look hard.

post #16 of 18

 

Shilling for your own book maybe?
post #17 of 18

Kenny- You should hit the Crystal Mountain RDL center.  Pay $49 and try as many skis as you want.   I would suggest you test the Dynastar Outland 87 as they have that one and the Rossi E88, E98 and the Sentinel.    I ski Crystal (17 days so far this season) and I'm extremely happy with the Elan Apex for a daily driver which is 88 waist.  It handles everything I throw at it from North and Southback to bump city.  I'm 10lbs lighter and 5" shorter than you but find the 88 does it all with aplomb.  

post #18 of 18

 

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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

 

Shilling for your own book maybe?

 

Looks that way. If you are going to promote your own product, "full disclosure" is preferred, you will receive more respect. Saying "check what I found on Amazon" when it's your own product isn't cool and you will usually get called out on it..as you have here. 

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