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post #31 of 34
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Originally Posted by timski2 View Post

I clean the black off my Moon/Diamond stones by spraying base cleaner on them and let them soak. I brush them clean with a file card. It works well for me. Does anyone else clean their stones and if so i would like to hear how you go about it.



i just use soapy water, fantastic, windex or whatever is lying around and a nylon brush and a quick wipe with a rag.

post #32 of 34

Soap and water is best, a file card will dull your diamonds and change their grit rating (making them finer). Diamonds wear and become finer as you use them. Diaface-Moon Flex are the best, they last the longest, but even with them you need to buy a new coarse diamond (black 100 grit) and use it with the rest of your diamonds. When you get a new 100 grit and compare (feel it) to your old one you will see how much it has worn.

 

I use 100, 200, 400, 600 grit in that order so the new 100 grit becomes the new first diamond the old 100 becomes your second diamond. After the 600 I use two ceramics to get to 1200. The whole process takes less then 10 minutes to do both skis. If you have no burrs caused by hitting rocks skip the first coarse diamond.

 

The reason you have black stuff or fiberglass/plastic/aluminum is you are working on the sidewall not just edge. Get a sidewall planer (96 or 97 degree edge beveler) to cut back the layers above the edge.

 

Any fine file will work, the shorter ones seem to follow the radius of the ski better. File dry, water will rust the file if it does not have enough chromium. Clean files with a file card/brush you can buy at a hardware store.

 

The first time you tune use the sidewall planer (with a panzer file), then use the panzer to set the edge the first time, followed by your regular fine file. For the most part use the sidewall planer only that first time unless you did not remove enough material. The goal is remove the least amount of edge as you can not replace it.

 

Use a file to "set the edge angle" and a diamond to maintain it. During the course of a season you may want to go back to the file once in a while and follow up with diamonds.

post #33 of 34
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Originally Posted by RobertRS View Post

I use 100, 200, 400, 600 grit in that order so the new 100 grit becomes the new first diamond the old 100 becomes your second diamond. After the 600 I use two ceramics to get to 1200. The whole process takes less then 10 minutes to do both skis. If you have no burrs caused by hitting rocks skip the first coarse diamond.

 

You use six different stones on four edges and it only takes 10 minutes? How many passes do you do with each stone? Do you have a guide for each stone so you don't have to switch them out?

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You use six different stones on four edges and it only takes 10 minutes? How many passes do you do with each stone? Do you have a guide for each stone so you don't have to switch them out?


 

 

I use 70mm Moonflex diamonds 200, 400 and 600 in one dedicated SVST guide and it takes me just a few minutes.  Dip in secret sauce (dish soapy water)  2 or 3 swipes each edge with a slight re-alignment of the stone each swipe for even wear.

 

 

 

 

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