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how can this guy get so low with out angulating?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma-dY_qVL9Q&feature=related

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Nice video but if you look closely he angulates. The body leaning into the turn early, then moving into the new turn prior to the skis releasing. Around :16 you can see the "reverse angulation" along with the upper body rotary. As he comes off the high edge angle he also shows a classic angulated position breifly as the body begins to move towards the next turn. Looks fun, thanks for posting it!

JASP

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Originally Posted by justanotherskipro View Post

Nice video but if you look closely he angulates. The body leaning into the turn early, then moving into the new turn prior to the skis releasing. Around :16 you can see the "reverse angulation" along with the upper body rotary. As he comes off the high edge angle he also shows a classic angulated position breifly as the body begins to move towards the next turn. Looks fun, thanks for posting it!

JASP



i can see as he comes off his high edge angle the angulated position now youve pointed it out, but how come his skis dont break from under him because he's not in the c position ie hips inside upper body outside as you could say?

 

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Angulation isn't limited to that classic body position. The skis hold because he still aligns his CoM along the balance axis. It's just in a reversed version where the shoulders and upper body mass are further inside the turn. It reminds me of a motorcycle racing where the rider is further inside the turn than the bike.

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i can see as he comes off his high edge angle the angulated position now youve pointed it out, but how come his skis dont break from under him because he's not in the c position ie hips inside upper body outside as you could say?

 


You will always have a turn radius/speed combo where you can just inclinate and be in balance.  But there is only one combo that works for any given speed etc or radius, so it si very limiting.  But it is certainly doable, as shown here. 

 

We used to do a race drill called "solider turns" so named because you would just inclinate, no pivot, no angulation.  It was so named because you looked like a toy soldier  doing it.  It was popular back when people where transitioning from straight skis to the new "shaped skis".

 

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Note also he is not balancing along the edge of the outside ski.  He has a lot on the edge of the inside ski, which puts much of his weight in the "angulated" side of the lever arm (when referencing the inside ski).  He could in fact make that same size turn at a higher speed if he put more weight on the outside ski.  It reminds me of newbie motorcycle riders getting all bent out of shape to scrape their knee pucks, but still being slow.

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