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Had my surgery yesterday.  All went very well. Staff at Yampa Valley were nothing short of excellent. Doctor was pleased with results and not a lot of meniscus damage. I went the route of a femorol block with a spinal block (not sur eof the terms) and with a mild sedative It was the way to go. I even woke up while they were drilling and hammering away and it was pretty cool/ Of course, there is no feeling in your legs. Here's a short video of how the doctor inserts the anchor pins and Allograft.  He used a double bundle. recovery was easy as you don't have that general anesthesia hangover. once the block wears off, the real fun starts.. I go to my first rehab session on Monday

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWG30R6305Q&feature=email

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Glad to hear that there was not much meniscus damage- did they cut out/trim what there was or sew it up?  My PT was awake during (some of) his surgeries, but my Drs encouraged me to go to sleep so I took the wussy way out- good on you to check it out!  Has the block worn off yet?  Mine took a good 24 hours the 2nd time, but the pain was really pretty manageable.  I had left over meds from my first surgery as I only took a few of the stronger ones and less than half the shorter term ones- got off them even quicker the second time around.

 

The scariest part is over- I`ve never been one to hit the gym hard just to work out, but was more motivated with the PT- yes it is some work, but it is nice to see the progress you make each week.  With your attitude, I am sure that you will do great!

 

I wasn`t sure if I wanted to see the video before getting the following message when I clicked on it The site's security certificate is not trusted!

post #3 of 293

Finn, I'm so glad everything went well.  

Heal wellcool.gif

 

Next winter will be known as the winter of Finndog!

 

 

(the video link for me says I need a username and password)

post #4 of 293

Glad to hear it went well, hope you're back to normal in no time!

 

post #5 of 293
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Try the new link above. its on YouTube but its a private, unlisted video If its doest work I will try t0 get another link from him

post #6 of 293

Heal up bud - looking to make some turns with you next season.

post #7 of 293
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Had my surgery yesterday.  All went very well. Staff at Yampa Valley were nothing short of excellent. Doctor was pleased with results and not a lot of meniscus damage. I went the route of a femorol block with a spinal block (not sur eof the terms) and with a mild sedative It was the way to go. I even woke up while they were drilling and hammering away and it was pretty cool/ Of course, there is no feeling in your legs. Here's a short video of how the doctor inserts the anchor pins and Allograft.  He used a double bundle. recovery was easy as you don't have that general anesthesia hangover. once the block wears off, the real fun starts.. I go to my first rehab session on Monday

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWG30R6305Q&feature=email


Amazing video.  Do you know what the material is that they use for the new ACL?  It looks so silky, and micro-fibery.  Odd that there's no blood.  No wonder this stuff doesn't repair itself.

 

post #8 of 293
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its a allograft, aka cadaver.  cheers to the person who gave this up for me.  the leg s tourniqueted so there is no blood flow. 

post #9 of 293

Gee, and I thought I had it tough with my first root canal this week. Speedy recovery. It was a shame this happened but I'm sure you'll be back big time next year.

post #10 of 293

I enjoyed the video.  When I dissected a cadaver, I remember when we were on the knee we cut the ACL, and someone was holding the lower leg, and WHAM, it went flying forward.  Obviously a very small but very important ligament.

 

 

Is there a risk your body will "reject" the cadaver graft?

post #11 of 293
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no, since its basically inert and doest really have blood flow, the body essentially grows over it as I understand. 

post #12 of 293

Finn, do you think you'll be using some kind of compression tight, like Opedix, when you're back on the slopes? 

 

post #13 of 293

Good luck and speedy rehab to you Finn.

 

Will be in your neck o the  woods next week. Sadly, it's looking like summer your way. Not so nice for the Junior Olympians on their way there, but at least it is nice for your gimping around town :-o

post #14 of 293
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sholud not be necessary. compression socks would not have any effect on an ACL

post #15 of 293

Glad to hear it all went well for you.  Good luck with the rehab.  I hope to get some turns with you next year at the 'boat.

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Finn, do you think you'll be using some kind of compression tight, like Opedix, when you're back on the slopes? 

 



 



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sholud not be necessary. compression socks would not have any effect on an ACL



I was thinking more like these.

Skiing and Your Knees

 

post #17 of 293
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hmm, from what i understand, i doubt this product would really help prevent an  ACL tear but what do i know.

post #18 of 293
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Beginning to bear weight on the leg. Working on locking it out straight and getting the quad to fire. I start PT on Monday and I get to take the dressings off tomorrow and shower.  I hate pain meds.    

post #19 of 293
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hmm, from what i understand, i doubt this product would really help prevent an  ACL tear but what do i know.



You know a whole lot more than I do, that's why I asked. smile.gif



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Beginning to bear weight on the leg. Working on locking it out straight and getting the quad to fire. I start PT on Monday and I get to take the dressings off tomorrow and shower.  I hate pain meds.    


Thanks for the progress report.  Knowing you and how much you put into fitness and recovery, I'm betting you'll be back on track soon.

 

RE: pain meds

When I had my crash last summer I tried to not take pain meds but finally gave into it so I could rest and heal.  I found that taking a mild anti inflammatory (ex advil) during the day and then the real pain meds when I went to sleep helped a lot.  

 

 

post #20 of 293
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yeah, I was on Hydro the first day but it gave me a terrible headache and made me very nauseous. I didn't want to go the route of Percaset (sp) due to the "side effects" of severe constipation (come on we're all friends here) I switched over and took the Perc last night and it was much better; I don't get much sleep but at least the pain is tolerable . I am just eating duclolex by the hand full. I think I am past the worst of it now and I took some advil early this AM and nothing all day. hopefully, Tonight will be the last of the Perc. Lets see how I feel after PT..

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yeah, I was on Hydro the first day but it gave me a terrible headache and made me very nauseous. I didn't want to go the route of Percaset (sp) due to the "side effects" of severe constipation (come on we're all friends here) I switched over and took the Perc last night and it was much better; I don't get much sleep but at least the pain is tolerable . I am just eating duclolex by the hand full. I think I am past the worst of it now and I took some advil early this AM and nothing all day. hopefully, Tonight will be the last of the Perc. Lets see how I feel after PT..


I was offered Ulracet but opted for Ultram, which ended up doing the trick for me, without the narcotic side effects, such as constipation.  

 

I had an abdominal surgery when I was 36 and used the morphine IV on demand.  Later when the "side effects" set in, I realized I didn't have the abdominal strength to grunt one out. eek.gif

Hey, we're all friends here! 

post #22 of 293

Since we are all friends, the Percocet (note the spellingsmile.gif) will definitely plug one up and make you miserable.  I recommend taking a mild laxitive (MOM, dulcolax), like you are doing, to help counteract the side-effect.  Don't suffer with the pain.  If you need the meds, you need them.  There is some evidence taking NSAID (i.e. ibuprofen) can inhibit bone healing.  Make sure it is ok with your ortho to take them.  You will probably find that you will be able to make it through the day but need it at night because the throbbing won't let you sleep.  Keep up the good work.  I am sure you will rehab with that Finndog intensity.

post #23 of 293
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yeah, I was on Hydro the first day but it gave me a terrible headache and made me very nauseous. I didn't want to go the route of Percaset (sp) due to the "side effects" of severe constipation (come on we're all friends here) I switched over and took the Perc last night and it was much better; I don't get much sleep but at least the pain is tolerable . I am just eating duclolex by the hand full. I think I am past the worst of it now and I took some advil early this AM and nothing all day. hopefully, Tonight will be the last of the Perc. Lets see how I feel after PT..



I was only on pain meds for three days after my acl reconstruction. Percocet for the first three, then darvocet the next. Turns out im allergic to darvocet, which produced severe nausea. Pretty fun to drive the porcelain bus with one straight leg. Went off the pain meds that morning and the pain wasn't too bad.

 

Anyway Finn, do you think your going to be able to ski in your athletic brace? I gave it a shot a year after my recon and found it uncomfortable and didn't allow me to flex and bend my leg like I needed to. Havn't had an issue with my acl since then.

 

Best of luck to the both of you with your pt and recovery, hopefully your knee is as good as new in a year!

post #24 of 293
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I took one Percocet (thanks John!) last night but I think i'm done with them. Fell asleep at about 8 woke up a couple times but slept through till about 5 which is my normal time. Took off dressings today and took shower. That felt great but the knee is def' unstable and I can't straighten it out yet. Walking better this AM and can stand at the counter to make my Capuccino which is very important... able to walk a few feet without crutches.   Snowy, you shouldn't have to wear a brace ofter the recon and full PT. Did you doctor tell you that you should?  

 

I can't begin to thank Ms. Finn enough for all she has done for me. icon14.gif

 

knee day 3.jpg

post #25 of 293

Hey Finn,

     Did you choose your graft? Or was that your doctors preference? I was reading cadaver is not very common, but I liked the sounds of it. I have surgery on the 19th, but have a pre-surgery appointment the 15th the mull over the grafts with my ortho. 


happy to hear you are doing well. i'm a little nervous, but have been giving my pre-surgery stretches / physical therapy a ton of effort. 

 

brendan 

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I've come to appreciate the value of a good mate.  Not sure how I would have handled my broken ribs if Phil hadn't been so awesome. 

Cheers to Ms. Finn!!beercheer.gif

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I can't begin to thank Ms. Finn enough for all she has done for me. icon14.gif

 

knee day 3.jpg



 

post #27 of 293

Ron, congrats on getting through the surgery.  Are you on the stationary bike yet?

 

This weekend was just a week short of my one year anniversary of my ACL reconstruction.  The weekend before I skied 3 days at Steamboat, and this weekend was 3 days at Big Sky.  Keep up with the rehab (but with moderation) -- there's no reason you won't have a successful summer biking (perhaps not MB'ing) and skiing next winter should be no problem.

 

Mike

post #28 of 293
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my Dr. uses the allograft for older people who aren't going to be as hard on it as pro athlete or a young 20 year old competitive athlete. He uses the double bundle method. He uses a hamstring on pro or competitive Athlete's. I don't know if other doc's use the same anchor method as he does (see video) You need to discuss your options with your surgeon. Keep in mind they do a ton of ACL's up here and work very closely with Steadman. 

 

I can tell you the femoral and spinal block were great; much better than general anesthesia. You can still be rendered "asleep" if you want but there's none of that hangover fog  Just remember that once that block wears off, you need to have your pain meds and ice needs all ready to roll. The first 48 hours after the block wears off are not much fun but it improves quickly. I am off crutches already. I use one for balance only.  Try to work on straightening out the knee and flexing the quad from the get go. It is painful but getting the quad to fire is critical. Your quad will not work after surgery. 

 

Pain meds: I am assuming you have discussed pain control with your dr. If not, you really need to. Controlling pain is key to allowing your body to heal. the issue with constipation is real so be sure you have a couple of packs of stool softener and laxatives ready. Again discuss with your doctor. Your knee will be locked out straight and locked at "0" so make sure you can get to and from the bathroom OK.  

 

Rehab: I had a pre operative rehab session where we completed all paperwork and then had an evaluation of my current condition and then a review of what to expect and a few very important exercises I started the day of surgery. This has already made a difference. Set up the first few appointments. The first rehab session was painful but tolerable. I did not take any pain meds other than advil today. (I have been off prescription meds since Saturday night. ) I don't like them. 

post #29 of 293
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Hey Mike, no, not yet, my knee is locked out at "0". I go to the doc tomorrow and hope to get that opened up a bit but no, I don't know where I got the idea I could ride a bike in under a week?  Maybe at the 2 week mark. I have a already been told no mtn biking for most likely this fall, easy riding probably at the 4-5 month mark. He is conservative and prefers to let the graft heal as long as possible for best long-term results so I am find with that. The issue of course is having to step off or falling on that knee.  

 

I also am going to have to have further treatment of my ankle so I am not sure of when but most likely they are going to MRI it to see what's going on.   

 

CONGRATS TO YOU btw  Good job. Sorry we didn't get a chance to meet. 
 

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Ron, congrats on getting through the surgery.  Are you on the stationary bike yet?

 

This weekend was just a week short of my one year anniversary of my ACL reconstruction.  The weekend before I skied 3 days at Steamboat, and this weekend was 3 days at Big Sky.  Keep up with the rehab (but with moderation) -- there's no reason you won't have a successful summer biking (perhaps not MB'ing) and skiing next winter should be no problem.

 

Mike



 

post #30 of 293
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knee day 4.jpg

 

Day 4- a bit more bruising but to be expected.  

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