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post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 

Hi, everyone.

 

My daughter (14 y.o. 5 1/2 ft, 140 lbs)  has been on an alpine racing D-team for the past three years.   It's a fairly mellow environment rather than a hard-core team, which is a good fit for my kid, whose main ambition has been to learn how to ski fast, though she's learned to enjoy the technical challenge posed by the gates. 

 

This kid has been (to put it mildly) change-averse, to the point where she has been on the same 150cm Atomic Race 10 Jrs for all three years (!) despite being a good bit bigger now than she was at 11.  But just a few weeks ago, we had a breakthrough:  she tried my beginner skis from a few years ago, which are 161 cm Volkl carvers, (Tiger Motion, which is stiffer than entry level Tiger, WAY stiffer and heavier than her Race 10s, but quite a bit less stiff than something like the RaceTiger).   And she loves them.    "I can go FAST on these!"  (well, yes, when you're not totally overpowering the ski, that's a bit easier...).

 

So, now we're in the market for new skis for her---the carvers are sufficiently beat up that even if they were suitable for racing, she really ought to get something else.  The question, of course, is what?   Race stock doesn't seem appropriate.  She's not that good, not getting up on edge enough to apply that much force.  Besides, if she's got a quiver, it will only be because she keeps my old carvers, so we need a ski that she can enjoy just skiing around on.

 

So, are we talking something like a cheater GS?  One of the various hard-snow carving options around 75-80 underfoot?  The coaches say she's up to a 165cm GS ski  (though slalom is still kind of a problem, because she doesn't put enough pressure on the tips, even on the 150s).

 

Any and all suggestions welcome.  I'm going to ask the coaches, too, but there's an awful lot of expertise on this board, regarding what's out there and how it works.   And thanks for reading, if you made it this far.

 

post #2 of 5
Thread Starter 

[Apparently I can't (?) edit a thead-starting post, so here is a correction.]

 

Going by what the coaches said, my guesses were way off. What she actually needs is more like a soft slalom ski, e.g. an Atomic SL-9, (or maybe the newer Race ST?).   That gives me something to get started with, so I'm off to troll through ski reviews.

 

 

post #3 of 5

"Kinda" is hard to decipher, but would suggest reposting this in the Instruction/Coaching forum, if the object is expert advice about actual junior racing ski. May or may not be a recreational slalom carver, depending on level etc. OTOH, if this is more about recreational racing for a club/school etc., this is reasonable forum. IME (limited), Rossi and Dynastar makes some nice softer rec racing skis. See a lot of them on kids in youth racing programs. (Realizing that "softer" is another loaded term, but relative to say Blizzard or Atomic.) 

post #4 of 5

What the &^%$ is with all the posts about Atomic being stiff? The junior race skis are suited for the size and ability of the skier using them. Even the FIS and non-FIS skis are much softer than a decade ago, and got even softer when Doubledeck was used. Most of the people who have trouble on Atomics have an issue with the loft, not the flex..

 

At 5'-6" & 140pounds, your daughter is at a size equal to many World Cup athletes. If she can't generate enough tip pressure on what she currently has, she won't be able to with another pair of skis either. Think of the hack golfer who gets a new club and still shanks every shot into the rhubarb. You need to go above the skis to start correcting the issue. My first thought is that the boots aren't working out and are hindering her technical developement.

 

 

post #5 of 5
Thread Starter 

This is indeed more like club racing, so I'm hoping this is the right forum.

 

But the boots are an obvious starting point I had overlooked.  Betaracer, thanks for the reminder on that.
 

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Originally Posted by Betaracer View Post

What the &^%$ is with all the posts about Atomic being stiff? The junior race skis are suited for the size and ability of the skier using them. Even the FIS and non-FIS skis are much softer than a decade ago, and got even softer when Doubledeck was used. Most of the people who have trouble on Atomics have an issue with the loft, not the flex..

 

At 5'-6" & 140pounds, your daughter is at a size equal to many World Cup athletes. If she can't generate enough tip pressure on what she currently has, she won't be able to with another pair of skis either. Think of the hack golfer who gets a new club and still shanks every shot into the rhubarb. You need to go above the skis to start correcting the issue. My first thought is that the boots aren't working out and are hindering her technical developement.

 

 



 

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