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K2 Hardside vs Coomback (little help)

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After 12 years, I ready for a new set of skis.  I currently ski a 2000 K2 Mod X (188).  Skiing mostly in Oregon (Cascade Cement).  I enjoy skiing the steep and sinking into long GS turns on groomers.  I definitely need a ski that will bust through the Cascade Cement crud.  Floating in powder is secondary.  Due to price and availability I have narrowed the choices down to the K2 Hardside and  Coomback.  The Hardside seems to have the features that would be the easiest to transition to.  The Coombacks seem so light and flexible.  The Coombacks may have some advantages that could open up more skiing terrain.  I don't like skiing the trees because I have to work so hard to initiate slow, quick turns with the Mod Xs.  On the other hand, I am afraid to give up the joy of riding the edge on a long GS turn.  I am going crazy over this.  Any experienced feedback would be appreciated.

 

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The Coomback has a much softer tip than the Hardside and wants to get on top of crud or bounce around rather than pierce through chunky snow. Also the metal, stiffness and greater camber of the Hardside gives it a more commanding presence in variable snow than the Coomback. The Coomback is great as a do everything ski that doesn't reward aggressive skiing but will never kick your butt, it excels in unbroken fresh snow of any kind. The Hardside can be pushed much harder and has more torsional rigidity thus better edgehold, they also have more energy in them.

 

Coming off a Mod X the Hardside will feel similar but beefier due to the added width yet at the same time be much easier to ski in softer and deeper snow. Mod's will feel like narrow missiles compared to Hardsides. Don't overlook the Sideshow or Aftershock either as both offer better hard snow performance than the Hardside, similar crud performance but less powder prowess. All four are much better off piste than a Mod X.

 

For reference I ski in Washington and own a Sidestash (wider Hardside), owned a Coomba (non-rockered Coomback) and original Morrison (Mod X minus the mod), and spent some time on a Hardside.

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Thank you for the reply.  Your input really helped me confirm my thoughts.  I looked at the Aftershock in the shop.  I was thrown by the price.  When I researched them further, I found the price included the bindings.  They are going for $700 at the local shop.  I don't mind spending an extra $50 at a good local shop that has been serving this area for a long time.  I hope they have a pair of 174s in stock.

 

I went back and looked at my Mod X dimensions.  They were only 70mm at the base.  A jump to 85mm should be the right transition.  The performance of the Aftershocks in softer snow will be a dramatic improvement over my Mod Xs.  I like the dampening feel that the Mod technology provides, which the Aftershock is built on.  I still have a pair of Apache Strykers that I can use in tighter bumps when needed.

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How do you like the SideStash?  I'm torn, I have a pair of Volkl RTM 84's that I use mainly for the front side and am looking to purchase a second pair this season that can be more fun in the trees, on the bumps and in powder when we get it (I live on East Coast, but will get a few Western trips in this season).  Right now considering the Salomon Shoguns (had these 3 years ago), Atomic Ritual or Alibi, K2 Hardside or SideStash.  Any thoughts?

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The Coomback has a much softer tip than the Hardside and wants to get on top of crud or bounce around rather than pierce through chunky snow. Also the metal, stiffness and greater camber of the Hardside gives it a more commanding presence in variable snow than the Coomback. The Coomback is great as a do everything ski that doesn't reward aggressive skiing but will never kick your butt, it excels in unbroken fresh snow of any kind. The Hardside can be pushed much harder and has more torsional rigidity thus better edgehold, they also have more energy in them.

Coming off a Mod X the Hardside will feel similar but beefier due to the added width yet at the same time be much easier to ski in softer and deeper snow. Mod's will feel like narrow missiles compared to Hardsides. Don't overlook the Sideshow or Aftershock either as both offer better hard snow performance than the Hardside, similar crud performance but less powder prowess. All four are much better off piste than a Mod X.

For reference I ski in Washington and own a Sidestash (wider Hardside), owned a Coomba (non-rockered Coomback) and original Morrison (Mod X minus the mod), and spent some time on a Hardside.
As a current (very happy) Coomba skier, I am curious how different the Coomback is and how different it skis. Does it feel similar?
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