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post #1 of 7
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Hi, EpicSki members. The first post here...

 

I'm looking for the all-mountain skis for my father.

About him: 47, 160 lbs, 5' 9", intermediate skier

 

He started skiing 4 years ago on the used Atomic SX 1 168 cm. So now is the time for replacing skis.

He's skiing on the groomers and is looking for the stability even on afternoon slopes with ice and soft snow.

So after doing lots of research we have chosen the following skis:

 

K2 Rictor

Salomon Enduro XT 800 (or 850?)

Elan Amphibio Waveflex 12 Fusion

Atomic Blackeye TI

 

You can also add some other skis to the list. And I also want the advice about the length of skis. Would be 167 cm - 168 cm fine?

 

Best regards from Slovakia, Gleb.

post #2 of 7

Where do you normally ski?  The new gear should make skiing a lot easier than what he had on the Atomic SX, especially if softer snow conditions happen frequently.

post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 

He normally skies 85% groomers, 15% ungroomed.

I don't really know if I translated soft snow well smile.gif (I meant snow on the afternoon slopes and snow when the temperatures are higher).

post #4 of 7

I can't speak to the first 3 on your list of candidates, because I haven't skied them.

I did demo the Blackeye TI last year, tho, along with the Atomic D2 VF 82,which has very similar specs. 

I bought the D2 VF 82.

 

I'm the same age as your Dad, and only an 1" taller and 5 lbs heavier, so essentially the same size also.

I found the Blackeye not nearly as versatile or easy-skiing as the D2.  I demoed both on a day when conditions were firm and the only soft(ish) snow was in the trees.  I found the Blackeye and D2 about equal on groomers, but off-piste, the Blackeye seemed twitchy, too hooky, and not that forgiving.  Maybe it was a bad demo tune, but...

 

The D2 did everything I wanted when I wanted, was very versatile, handled all conditions well, was easy to ski, and I was sufficiently  impressed that I bought a pair, which I still have!  I even had them in 3 feet of powder last weekend and was able to make 'em work with an uber-narrow stance and 2-footed steering.  Was it as fun as a fat powder ski?  No, but it was still the most fun skiing I've had in years.

I suggest considering the D2 VF 82 instead of the Blackeye TI.

 

Another awesome choice would be the Rossignol Avenger 82 TI....also a killer ski!

post #5 of 7
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Another awesome choice would be the Rossignol Avenger 82 TI....also a killer ski!

Having recently tried it out, I agree, the Rosignol Avenger 82 TI would be a good choice.
 

 

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Hi, EpicSki members. The first post here...

 

I'm looking for the all-mountain skis for my father.

About him: 47, 160 lbs, 5' 9", intermediate skier

 

He started skiing 4 years ago on the used Atomic SX 1 168 cm. So now is the time for replacing skis.

He's skiing on the groomers and is looking for the stability even on afternoon slopes with ice and soft snow.

So after doing lots of research we have chosen the following skis:

 

K2 Rictor

Salomon Enduro XT 800 (or 850?)

Elan Amphibio Waveflex 12 Fusion

Atomic Blackeye TI

 

You can also add some other skis to the list. And I also want the advice about the length of skis. Would be 167 cm - 168 cm fine?

 

Best regards from Slovakia, Gleb.


Welcome to the forum.

 

I cannot comment on the Elan.  I have experience with the other skis mentioned.

 

The K2 AMP Rictor is a smooth hard snow type ski.  It goes into a turn easily.  It holds said turn.  And it releases smoothly.  The K2 has that Cadillac Escalade feel.  Some like that feel, some want more energy.

 

The Atomic Blackeye Ti is similar to the K2 AMP Rictor, but it feels more grippy and has more energy exiting a turn.  It also feels quicker.  Using the automobile analogy, it is like a Mercedes M-Class with the AMG sports package.

 

I would consider the Salomon Enduro 800 XT to be the most energenic.  It does all turn shapes very well.  Of the three, I enjoyed this ski doing short to medium radius turns the most.  The transition from one turn to the next was effortless.  Using the automobile analogy, the Enduro 800 XT would be a Porsche Cayenne.

 

I would categorize the Salomon Enduro 850 XT out of the hard snow category that the previous skis are in.  The Enduro 850 XT is wider and is more versatile.  It grips nicely on hard snow, but it is versatile enough to ski in variable snow like the end of the day chop and shallow powder.  I enjoyed this model in medium to long radius turns the most.

 

As for length, 167 to 170 sounds about right.

post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 

Thank you for the all of your reviews. They are really helpful.

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