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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Not completely sure if this should be in General Ski Discussions but I'll try it here.


Like many of you out there I'm a glasses wearer. It's a mixture of a vision problem since childhood and deterioration with age. I've generally managed to get by relying on the brightness of the environment up in the snow but gradually over recent years I've found losing definition more and more of a problem, partticularly in poorer light. On a bright day I can still cope.


I initially bought a pair of Adidas Yodai goggles and put in the optical inserts with my prescription. In good light on a moderately cold day they worked well and it was a revelation to see clearly. I can, however, manage in these conditions as I've already said. As soon as a mist came down or there was any precipitation or even when I was working hard and getting hot, they misted up and made for a very unpleasant ride. I tried treating the lenses of the inserts and goggles but this made very little difference.


I then read a review of the Smith Knowledge Turbo fan on here a while back and parted with £110 (about $175) to buy a pair. I went to Sweden at new year and had no success with them so reverted to no glasses again. They were misting up in all conditions. I've just come back from Austria and tried the Smiths again with no better success. They mist up as soon as I stop even with the fan on full and take a couple of hundred metres skiing to fully clear. Not nice particularly in one of the busiest weeks on the slopes I've ever witnessed! I went back to the Adidas which were ok as the conditions were clear and cold enough up on a glacier.


Is there anybody out there who has had these issues and managed to find a workable solution? I guess the eyes will get worse as I age and I want to find an alternative to relying on good light before that's not enough. 

post #2 of 15

No solutions, just a few anecdotal observations.

I bought new glasses that are a lot smaller than my old glasses.  The fogged up glasses are much less problematic now.


One day I dressed for -40 and it was only -24 C.  I sweated a lot, and my goggles really fogged up.


Are you too warm when you ski?

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 

I think temperature regulation is a contributor as you suggest but as you know it can be difficult over a day to get it right. You are feeling right and then you ski a mogul field and work hard generating loads of heat, then you ride a long chair in the shade. It's not easy but I do think you may be onto something. I'll try to be a bit more aware of keeping my temperature regular. Thanks!

post #4 of 15

I can empathize, big time, as my vision has also gone south with age. Two suggestions, Adie.


1. IF your visual acuity issues can be corrected with contact lenses, then you'll find them to be an ideal solution. The daily wear disposable lenses require virtually no adaptation time, meaning you will not experience any discomfort. The only "hassle," so to speak, is learning how to insert and remove them. The expense is moderate, as well, especially if you only wear them when you ski.


2. You mention that you can see on bright days with your Adidas goggles. I've found that so-called "HI (high intensity) Yellow" lenses are the solution on overcast days. The "HI Yellow" Oakleys I use have an 81 percent light transmission, as compared to levels ranging from 20 to mid-30 percent for darker and mirrored lenses. The difference on flat light days is remarkable.


Seemingly there would two options for HI Yellow. With contacts, a second pair of goggles or goggles with interchangeable lenses (the Oakleys I have come with two sets of lenses). Additonally, the Oakleys do not fog (having vents that function as well as those found on Smith regulators). Alternatively, if contacts do not work for you, perhaps a second pair of prescription goggles with HI Yellow lenses is in order.


Good luck.

post #5 of 15

I'll second the suggestion of contact lenses.  I have tried for decades to use them but found them intolerable, but I tried again at the beginning of this season.  My optometrist said that contact lens technology has improved in the last 2-3 years, and lo-and-behold I'm now able to wear contacts!  It was the best money I've ever spent on anything as far as improving my skiing experience goes.  No more fogging issues!


Now if I were a good surgical candidate I'd have eye surgery in a heartbeat.

post #6 of 15

The post editor is not working this morning so I'll just add another post:


If I were a good surgery candidate I'd have eye surgery in a heartbeat!

post #7 of 15

+1 on the daily wear contacts. I've worn contacts for skiing for 20+ years, but the disposables that became available in the last few years are by far the easiest to wear. And inexpensive too.


I'm very myopic and have astigmatism as well. I can't get contacts that give me good distance AND closeup vision like my glasses, but I can get contacts that provide excellent distance vision only - which is all I need when actually skiing.


For map and menu reading, a cheap pair of reading glasses is a minor inconvenience that's more than worth tolerating for the joys of skiing fog free.

post #8 of 15
Originally Posted by DouglySkiRight View Post

I'm very myopic and have astigmatism as well.

Same here.  I was surprised to find that there was a difference in corrective ability between brands of contacts despite having the same prescription and basic material.  The first brand I tried left lettering very blurry, to where I couldn't read street signs.  My eye doctor tried a different brand and it improved my clarity immensely.  Same Rx though.

post #9 of 15
Originally Posted by Toecutter View Post

Same here.  I was surprised to find that there was a difference in corrective ability between brands of contacts despite having the same prescription and basic material.  The first brand I tried left lettering very blurry, to where I couldn't read street signs.  My eye doctor tried a different brand and it improved my clarity immensely.  Same Rx though.

Hmmm, I didn't know that. In disposables I've only used the brand the optometrist provided (Accu-Vue). They seem great for any distance > 36" or so, but from your post I gather a different brand might be even better... or worse. Something for anyone with vision issues to explore, thanks.




Also, while these lenses are not prone to dislodging it's always possible, and skiing with monocular vision is NOT fun. Each disposable lens comes individually packaged so I carry a spare pair when skiing. Takes up no space, costs nothing and could be a life saver. Just remember to label each one "L" or "R". 



post #10 of 15

I used the Smith turbo fan gogles with glasses underneath and they always fogged too.  I purchased the Smith optical inserts for those same goggles and they have never fogged again. Definitely worht the $100.  I just can't read a trail map without removing my goggles as I didn't want to spend for bifocals.

post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 

Some much appreciated ideas but  I'd still be really interested to hear if anyone has found a good solution other than contacts. A childhood of eye treatment including surgery has left me with eyes that stream at the least little thing and uncontrollable sensitivity. I even struggle with eyedrops for my hay fever. I know this makes me sound like a big whimp but it's just one of those things. I would prefer to avoid the contact route if possible as a result.

post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks RatherPlayThanWork. I was typing when your contribution came through. This sounds like an option. I'll look into it. I didn't even know they did an insert for that goggle.

post #13 of 15

Adie, can really  empathize with your plight....been there, done that.  In the end, only contacts solved the problem for me.  I only wear them for skiing and then only in bad weather.  If you havent already seen it there is/was an excellent recent discussion thread on this very subject.  Lots of good advice from many skiiers who've had to slove the same problem and from an optometrist too who is more than willing to answer your specific case questions if you send him a personal message. Check it out at http://www.epicski.com/t/106555/skiing-with-glasses

In fact if you search on skiing with glasses (and/or other versions of the same subject) you'll find endless discussions on this very subject.

Interesting what RPTW says in post #10 above about inserts working in the Smith Turbo Fans.  Might be related to the relative success some others have had by getting a separate pair of glasses in a small, all plastic (no metal) frame for use with the goggles.  Then again, for some (most?) nothing seemed to work except contacts.

Edited by jdleuck - 2/27/12 at 12:14pm
post #14 of 15

I can also endorse the Smith Rx insert. You'll likely need to order it directly from Smith


I use it in the Prophecy goggle, sans fan. You may want to look at the nose piece of the goggle to make sure the tabs to hold the insert in place are present, but the web page indicates that the insert goes with the Knowledge. It is possible that the insert is less prone to fogging as it is a little bit further from the face/eyes.

post #15 of 15

I use a pair of prescription safety glasses with auto darkening lenses. There is enough air flow past them to keep them from fogging. The only time I use my over the glasses goggles is when it's snowing.

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