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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

When you take an inicident report involving an accidental collision, do you record the names of both parties?  As background, 4 weeks ago my wife was skiing at Squaw Valley and on a streep. slick pitch (Siberia) a teenage boy skier lost control and collided with her.  She skied down after a awhile to get off the steep pitch and after inspection by the patroller at that location she had point tenderness in th emid back and tended up going down on a backboard.  Diagnosis ended up being a fracture of the T-5 to T-9 spinous process (small bones coming out of the vertebrae).  I asked Squaw for the inicident report, but the names of the other partires are not listed.  Is this normal? My wife just wanted to let the father know what the doutcome was and that he probably should not have had his son on that hill at that time.

post #2 of 12

I saw a patrol respond to a different collision on Siberia Face and they held the offender for questioning after the man was taken away on the sled.

post #3 of 12
Yes. You get the names of both parties whenever it is possible. You may want to speak to the ski patrol directly.
post #4 of 12
Check the California law. In Colorado, it's an infraction just like an automobile collision and the person at fault is liable. Your wife may be eligible for both any loss (wages, medical expenses) plus "pain and suffering" compensation.
post #5 of 12

Sounds like maybe your wife skied away from the collision site  and got checked out later?  If that is the case, the teenager probably just skied away and never got interviewed and they had no chance of recording his name?  It seems strange that the paperwork would be missing something important and obvious like that at a major resort like Squaw that has a Pro-patrol.  I always try and get another patroller to look over my incident reports to make sure nothing was missed.  

 

I have decided that if I am ever involved in any sort of incident where I even think I might be hurt in any way that I'm going to physically restrain the other person if necessary and make sure that they are held accountable.  I've had too many friends get hurt by other people who left the scene or skipped town leaving my friends with medical bills and lost work.  Conversely if I hurt another person I expect to be held accountable and I ski more carefully because of it.

post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post

I have decided that if I am ever involved in any sort of incident where I even think I might be hurt in any way that I'm going to physically restrain the other person if necessary 

 

Yeah, that's a warm and fuzzy thought.  The only problem with it is that if you're hurt badly enough, or even just temporarily incapacitated, I can tell you from first-hand experience that you won't be able to "physically restrain" a one-legged tree sloth...much less a reasonably fit adult who desperately wants to get the hell out of dodge.

 

The best thing to do the second your shaken wits allow is to get as complete and as detailed a description of the person as possible.  Even if they do stop, make a mental note their description, as they may bail on you at any moment once they get their own wits back and thoughts of possible consequences start swirling around their heads.

 

Most importantly when noting their description, look for anything that's particularly unique, such as a logo sticker on their helmet, patch on clothing, odd colors in odd patterns, unusual equipment, etc......
 

 

post #7 of 12
Yea, the shock and adrenaline may prevent you from realizing something is wrong until laterwhen youtube in the lift line and catch a few seconds. Especially if you have a head injury too, you mayb think you are fine till your friends start commenting why you are repeating yourself over and over again
post #8 of 12

Are you sure you would be able to win a case in court? I would assume that skiing, like any other sport, involves some risks and by skiing, you accept the fact that you maybe hurt. If you were deliberately slammed and hurt is one thing, but if it was an accidental collision? If anything, you trying to physically hold someone in place will probably play against you...

post #9 of 12
Where I work we are told to make every effort to have both parties fill out a report. If one party is not available, we will broadcast the information and look for them. If we still can't find them, we'll document the search and include that with the records. Sometimes, like in the OP, all the info cannot be obtained because both parties are not present or locatable.

All because of lawsuits.

In the OP the skier that continued on after the collision may have missed any chance for collecting the info.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks.  Let me clear up a few points.  When I said my wife skied down, she skied off of Siberia face at the direction of the Ski Patroller who thought it would be safer.  The kid who hit her and his dad skied down as well.  They were apologetic and after my wife skied to the flat pitch after Siberia Face, and the patroller was checking her out, they asked the patroller "Are you done with us?"

 

Also my wife is being reasonable and said she does not intend to sue. 

 

It is true that you never always know immediately if you are hurt or how seriously.  That is why I think they should (if it is not laready protocol) to get the names of all parties involved in an incident.

post #11 of 12

Vermont law requires both parties in a collision to exchange contact information.  From experience, not many skiers know this.

As a patroller, I try to get the information, but the first issue is caring for the injured. Usually I instruct any uninjured collision participants to follow me down to the patrol room "there are forms to fill out".  The first hand exposure to what an injured person experiences is a worthwhile education.

 

Patrol are not Law enforcement officers.

 

The unshaken witnesses to a collision are in perfect position to initiate the information exchange.  Husbands in particular ;-) if they can keep emotions to a civil level.  Seems like it's always the other person's fault ;-)

post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by Cgrandy View Post

 

Patrol are not Law enforcement officers.



Two of the pro patrollers on my hill are deputies, its quite nice to have them on the hill in the case of a disgruntled employee or guest, or a wild animal in the area.

Anyway back to subject, its always procedure to get both parties names and a witness for incidents, even the lifties have forms now.

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