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360's-what am I doing wrong?

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

Hey everybody!

I've been trying to land a 360 on skis for awhile now, but I can't quite get it. I'm hoping some more experienced people could maybe point out what I'm doing wrong. I've read a lot of forums and stuff, and I've basically gotten the same message from all of them-at the lip of the jump, pop and turn your head and upper body, keep your head pinned until you see the landing and then get ready to land. Is this right? What helped you "just do it", so to speak?

 

here's a video of me trying some 3's on dry land, in ski boots. Any suggestions?

(the video was still finishing "tidying up" when I posted this)

 

https://secure.vimeo.com/37334735

thanks in advance

post #2 of 9

You've gotta just commit to it. Try it on a kicker or a whoop or any small launch on a trail. Set your body for the spin, initiate, and then just make sure your head is turned. your body will follow your eyes. if you try and look as far behind you, your body will go that way naturally. attempting this on a day with fresh snowfall is ideal. 

post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 

So when I'm spinning, to me at least all the stuff flashing by is super confusing and blurred-do you pay attention to it or do you just ignore it until you see your landing?

Also, how do I make sure, when going off a kicker, that I don't end up dong a 360 at the angle I went off the jump and landing on my rear?

post #4 of 9

To make sure you do not do the 360 at an angle, be sure you are entirely off of the jump before you start to turn. Most people learning to do a 360 rush it, and turn while their skis are still partially on the jump. That will throw you totally off balance. 

 

Just ignore all the blurry stuff; focus on looking for your landing. 

post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 

thanks hudsonhacker, so I set the rotation on the jump, but shouldn't start to actually rotate until I'm airborne?

post #6 of 9

Your upper body/head should be already rotating before you pop off the jump.  It's all about commitment and hitting a jump big enough to do a slow 360.  

 

Here's a Video, clean, simple and effective.

 

 

post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 

Got it! Very helpful video, thanks.

 

 

Thanks for all the helpful suggestions, I'm going to give some 3's a shot tomorrow! I'll report back.

post #8 of 9

There's a discussion of the physics behind "Twisting Actions" in Ron LeMaster's Ultimate Skiing on pages 13 and 14. It uses the example of a skier doing a 360 off a jump and has a photo montage of the same. You might find it interesting. 

 

LeMaster agrees with huhh, or vice-versa. Regardless, the physics agree with both.  ;-)

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Originally Posted by huhh View Post

Your upper body/head should be already rotating before you pop off the jump.  It's all about commitment and hitting a jump big enough to do a slow 360.  

 

Here's a Video, clean, simple and effective.

 

 



Sorry OP, Huhh and I have discussed this before.

 

Huhh, this time even your video disagrees with what you say! In the video he says 'lead with your head AFTER you pop'. At least in this video he actually does a decent 3, but the instruction is terrible, love the talk through 'pop like that, then just land and ride away', no kidding, I always forget about landing and riding away, damn!

 

Probably the best 'how to' video I have seen is this one, actually got a bit of progression and some good tips. As they say, it's best to start small, don't 'hit a jump big enough to do a slow 360' before you have done them small first, unless you really enjoy pain.

 

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