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Stockli Skis: "As Elite as They Come"

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Stockli is a 76 year old Swiss company that has always run like, well, clockwork. However, last year they transferred their North American distribution to a new company organized by legendary freeskier Scot Schmidt and partners Dan Burgess and Ian Lamphere. These guys also own Backcountry TV, along with Legend of Aahhhs filmmaker Greg Stump and cinematographer Adam DesLauriers of the famous freeskiing family, and others with similar pedigrees. Stockli's association with this group is bound to revitalize the marketing of the brand, which traditionally has been low-key to the point of nonexistent. Since every pair of Stockli skis is handmade, production is limited to about 50,000 pairs per year and only a handful of select dealers are allowed to carry the brand. Their skis fetch a price that is around $1000 and it's extremely rare to find them discounted anywhere. Stockli has always relied on the fact that, "Once you've owned Stockli, you won't consider any other product."

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As part of their collaboration, Backcountry TV produced an episode called "Empire Builder: Skiing the Rails in the Pacific Northwest" featuring Scot Schmidt and narrated by Micah Black (2011) in which Stockli skis are prominently featured. 

 

As it happened, on the shuttle ride in to the SIA show from the airport we met Erv Wolfe (right), a sponsored skier from Squaw Valley who both appears in the film and wrote and performed two songs on the soundtrack. As he explained to us, this film is not your basic ski porn. There's a plot that reflects the core lifestyle and takes the protagonist/skiers on a quest from Chicago to Seattle in search of powder, and from Crystal Mountain in Washington to Whitefish in Montana along the "haute route" of the renowned Empire Builder train, with stops at Stevens Pass and Leavenworth to sample the goods along the way. Check your TV Guide -- the film airs on national TV through April 15. 

What's New for 2013

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"It looks like a powder ski, but it really isn't. It's an all-mountain blaster." 

Scot Schmidt's signature Pro Stormrider model for 2012-13 has an early rise tip and full camber through the tail. This is "great ski for a good skier." It has no rocker whatsoever. This model is for the more aggressive skier who wants a stable and powerful ski.

 

Also new for 2013 is the Y Series -- with a V-shape like the Salomon BBR -- that are billed as "the next generation of all-mountain skis." That's it to the left of the Stormriders in the collegiate argyles. Here's a recent company video about these skis: 

 

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Love my Stoekli (or Stockli) skis, have purchased four pairs over the past few years, but mey next purchase is a paid of Kastles.  For some reason Stockli seemed a bit slow on the uptake of early rise on their all mountain/off piste skis (don't see any relevence to hard snow carvers). Maybe, cautious and jetting it right?

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I love my XL's, but man that was a dumb video. They really are out of touch at this point. Their wide skis continue to be just race skis made wider, and that just doesn't cut it for most skiers. The DP pro stank and killed so much interest in their powder ski line up that I have no idea if they are making anything better now. 

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Umm, what about the Stormrider 95 and TT 110?  Those are both rocker designs that ski very well - and smoooooooth like a Stockli should.

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Nolo, do you know if the VXL will have early rise next season to go with the new graphics? Taxman, I found the 95 SR totally up to date, IMO they got the front curve and contact point totally right, it's weirdly quick and maneuverable for such a strong ski. Dawg pretty much found the same in his review. DId not ski the 110, but others I know say it's very nice, not a wide race ski at all. Davluri, have you ever skied any of the Rotors, or the new crop of carvers like the CX and SX? Very different from the XL's, which I also owned. 

 

Stockli's are not everyone's cuppa tea, and I have a feeling they still build skis more for the Euro market (which is not a mortal sin, last time I checked), but IMO their conservatism is a lot like Kastle, who resisted even early rise until last season, still limits it to one model line (the BMX's), and will finally introduce full rocker skis next season. Only Kastle's cool and Stockli's, ah, Swiss. th_dunno-1[1].gif

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yes what's new on vxl 2013?

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Damn, my spell check must have been faulty with that previous post  eek.gif
 

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........ Davluri, have you ever skied any of the Rotors, or the new crop of carvers like the CX and SX? Very different from the XL's, which I also owned. 

 

 

The Stormrider XL was the ski the got me hooked on Stocklis (coming of the Volkl AC3).  The most recent purchse (18 months ago) was the Laser SX; a ripper of a hard snow ski.

 

 

 

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Stockli's are not everyone's cuppa tea, and I have a feeling they still build skis more for the Euro market (which is not a mortal sin, last time I checked), but IMO their conservatism is a lot like Kastle, who resisted even early rise until last season, still limits it to one model line (the BMX's), and will finally introduce full rocker skis next season. Only Kastle's cool and Stockli's, ah, Swiss. th_dunno-1[1].gif



Funny thing, my first non-Stockli purchase in five years will be the Kastle BMX 108.   smile.gif  Hopefully Tahoe will have some good off-piste when I get there next month.

 

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Here's another video from SIA from the Skiershop crew.  I was lucky enough to make the trip for Skiershop and Stockli... some good info on the Y in there from Northern California's Stockli rep, Brad.  The interview about the Y is probably towards the end.

 

 

I personally haven't had a chance to ski the Y yet, but I look forward to getting on a pair.  Check out Skiershop.com's blog "Raise the Bar" for more cool insight on next years' gear.

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Can anyone confirm the widths of the new Y skis?

Also is there any flip or rise in the tail?

Thanks!
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The blue Y ski is 77mm at the waist, the green ski is 85mm. The tail is pretty darn flat.

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If I skied more hard snow I'd have more Stockli's in the narrower widths. Their carvers (XL's) are incredible, IMO. Like to try the CX, SX type skis. A friend rides the wider skis they make and he certainly rocks them, they still take power to ski, so they are making  progress in that category.

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"Since every pair of Stockli skis is handmade, production is limited to about 50,000 pairs per year"

 

I  love that quote. How is consistency achieved without the use of ANY machines?

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That was a pretty dumb video.  No information, just two guys who can ski everything on anything.   Byt the marketing taglines (Try Y, or Why Y) are cute.  The BBR-ish shape startes to get popular... I'd go to the new Dynastars (Cham series) before I go to this Stockli.  First of all, the 85 being the widest is a joke for the maritime snowpacks, maybe in cold Swiss Alps that works well,here you would want something wider.    

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I picked up the Stormrider Pro SS earlier this season (178cm - Side Cut = 132 / 101 / 121).   Like an earlier pair of Stockli GS race skis  I owned (and were stolen on the mountain mad.gif), they are skis that demand to be skied hard all the time.  You cannot get lazy on them or you'll hate 'em!   I purchased this model as I didn't want a rockered ski.  As a bigger dude - 6'1" @ 225lb - the slightly softer tip with early rise, wide waist and stiff tail, meet exactly what I was looking for in an all mountain ski for me.  I have skied all over the mountain and been amazed at how they respond.

 

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I'm hoping a pair of Laser SL in 171 shows up some day at a reasonable (not retail) price. Still looking.

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and nothing about a vxl 2013?words.gif

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The blue Y ski is 77mm at the waist, the green ski is 85mm. The tail is pretty darn flat.


Thanks!

Have you had a chance to ski on them yet? Any pics of the rocker / camber profile?

How is the flex compared to let's say a VXl?
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I'm hoping a pair of Laser SL in 171 shows up some day at a reasonable (not retail) price. Still looking.


A 165 would not do?
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A 165 would not do?


The longer length available is what makes it unique for me.  Lots of 165 SL race skis but I like the extra length for general groomer use.

Got a 165 you're looking to sell?

 

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The longer length available is what makes it unique for me.  Lots of 165 SL race skis but I like the extra length for general groomer use.

Got a 165 you're looking to sell?

 


Yes...2010/2011 brand new and never mounted.
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Hi Stevesmith7 , a great site to buy STOCKLI from is www.dwskis.com

They have many models as well as other brands , have always found them to have great service and quick delivery .

 

As for the Skis themselves STOCKLI are without Doubt THE BEST SKIS I've ever used , all of them will blow you away .

I have 11 sets , from 2005 Laser Cross Pros to 2012 FIS DH ,  and look forward to using each and everyone of them !  Ha Ha ...

 As on of the other Post(ers) said though , you will want to be on your game when you Ski them , but if that is something you like in a Ski , that is having to be "Involved" if you know what I mean , you will blown away by them . 

 

 

Good luck ! , I can't wait to read one of your posts after you've had a Ski on them !!

 

Cheers Fatty

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Try Whiteroom (see post 10 above) for Stokli Skis.  He knows his stuff, is a good guy and his service is excellent.

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I picked up the Stormrider Pro SS earlier this season (178cm - Side Cut = 132 / 101 / 121).   Like an earlier pair of Stockli GS race skis  I owned (and were stolen on the mountain mad.gif), they are skis that demand to be skied hard all the time.  You cannot get lazy on them or you'll hate 'em!   I purchased this model as I didn't want a rockered ski.  As a bigger dude - 6'1" @ 225lb - the slightly softer tip with early rise, wide waist and stiff tail, meet exactly what I was looking for in an all mountain ski for me.  I have skied all over the mountain and been amazed at how they respond.

 


I bought these skis after a demo in colorado. At the time I owned the previous SS pro that was a narrower 89mm but thought this wider SS was a much better carver and better in soft snow. My all time favorite. Especially here in the east where our "dumps" aren't exactly blower pow, it blows thru crud and chop and does it smoothly. Out west it makes a great all mountain ski. They would not be my first choice in deep powder skiing, but thats not really what stockli is about.

 

I also own the XXL and Laser SC. The XXL has been my go to ski all season. I just love this ski. I bought them from DW ski for $475. I bought the 09/10 model. They also have the 10/11 model but it is $150 more and its the exact same ski except for the topsheet. The Laser SC at 63mm is a sick ski for the groomers but its very limited elsewhere.

 

Just like an earlier poster, It was the xl that got me hooked too.

 

Best deals I got on them were from DW Skies and Skiershop.

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Try Whiteroom (see post 10 above) for Stokli Skis.  He knows his stuff, is a good guy and his service is excellent.


^^^^^ What he said. DWSkis is fine for older models that never sold out, but current model prices are same as everywhere else, and try to get individualized tuning or reliable mounting from a big online warehouse. Skiershop knows their stuff. 

 

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I'm up on the two sources. JMD got a pair from Skiershop via ebay of last years SLs at a great price. I've skied them which is why I'm looking. DWS has the same model but want about $300 more than the ebay deal which isn't compelling to me. Maybe they'll come down someday.

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Awesome skis with great quality.  Long-lived too...I have skied some after several seasons of usage, and they feel like brand-new.  Some folks find them a bit demanding in certain models, but they all perform at high-octane levels.  I like their skis a ton.  Huge following in Yurp.

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I purchased via DWSKIS as well. They were great to deal with and will buy from them again. I am eyeing the Stormrider 95 for my next pair of Stockli skis.
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I'm up on the two sources. JMD got a pair from Skiershop via ebay of last years SLs at a great price. I've skied them which is why I'm looking. DWS has the same model but want about $300 more than the ebay deal which isn't compelling to me. Maybe they'll come down someday.



I called the ski shop and asked if they would take an offer that was different than their eBay price.  They said they would, I submitted and they accepted.  Never hurts to ask!

 

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Stockli skis are great! Some of the best skis I have ever been on. That Stormrider 95 is incredible, as is the Cross CX, Cross SX, Laser stuff, VXL....They are skier's skis, though.  Not super forgiving, but forgiving enough, and have more horsepower than most, which makes up for it!  

Full selection of 2014 skis available right now from Dawgcatching.com.  PM for current deals and discount codes: save up to 25% on mid-season deals. 

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^^^^^ What he said. DWSkis is fine for older models that never sold out, but current model prices are same as everywhere else, and try to get individualized tuning or reliable mounting from a big online warehouse. Skiershop knows their stuff. 

 


This is true but DWS has some models that are only a season old and skiershop does have killer deals on leftovers.
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