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super tired calf, sore toes -- form or boot problem?

post #1 of 12
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Hi all, let me start by saying that this is my first ski season and reading these forums has been SUPER helpful for learning about gear and technique. Thanks for that!

 

Now, my issue. Today I got on the slopes and my left calf felt very tired, weak, and kind of achy, I could barely turn to the right. Every time I pushed down with the ball of the left foot to turn it hurt my calf. I called it a day after the one run. I'm wondering whether this is normal tiredness or might be a sign of something I'm doing wrong, or a poor boot fit? Two days ago I didn't ski and yesterday I did a group lesson which involved a fair amount of standing around and stopping to wait for people. Not sure if that's relevant. 

 

As I said this is my first season. I'm 35yo, 5'9", 165lbs in good physical shape. By recommendation here and elsewhere I got custom-fitted boots, size 24.5 Rossingol Experience 110 Sensor 3's. I also got custom inserts. My flipperfoot is short, very wide, and has a high arch, I wear 8.5 mens shoes. The fitter has blown out various parts over the last few weeks to accommodate my wide foot. I'm skiing 150cm Rossy Experience 78's (and ready to graduate to something longer).

 

Right foot, all good. But after 3 or so hours skiing my little and second toe on my left foot ache or sometimes go to sleep, and there is some soreness on the bottom of the foot on that side. The left heel is a bit loose (I can probably raise it 1cm or so, can't do that on my right side). Not sure if any of that is relevant or related. 

 

I'm very comfy on all the greens at deer valley and do lots of easy and moderate blues. I turn a lot on account of being new. I do favor stopping and slowing myself to that side, but not exclusively or anything. So far I've had pretty good instruction and am not in the back seat I don't think.

 

Any advice?

 

Thanks so much!

post #2 of 12

Welcome to Epic.  Hopefully one of the boot fitters will chime in on this but I think your boots may be too small.  I wear an 8-1/2 shoe and ski in 26 boots with Intuition liners which are somewhat thicker than standard liners.  My previous boots were 25.5 but I couldn't use a footbed with Intuition liners so I went up in size.  My son wears a 24.5 boot and while I can get my foot in that size shell it is painful.  I recommend you visit another boot fitter and get  second opinion about shell size.  I think your toes going to sleep is a strong indicator of a too small boot.  As for the pain in the ball of your foot that could be related to your arch not being adequate supported.  Everything just points to your left boot not fitting properly.

post #3 of 12

^^^ Check fitters forum. Only thing to add is that in general, sore calves = sitting back and unconsciously gripping with toes. Not unlikely if this is your first season. If toes also hurt, could be the gripping is creating pressure on them. th_dunno-1[1].gif

post #4 of 12

You have heel lift in your left foot and it's your left calf that hurts. IMO you need to get those heels locked down.

 

I had heel lifting in both boots in an otherwise good-fitting boot and both calves would be sore, particularly the next day. I went to see the best boot fitter in Mammoth, who put me in Zipfit liners. Heel lift gone. Calf pain gone. Doing calf raises in ski boots is not a good thing! wink.gif

post #5 of 12

Sounds like textbook tailgunning.

post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

Sounds like textbook tailgunning.



The search results for "tailgunning" are, ah, um, not particularly helpful in this case. Care to elaborate?

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The search results for "tailgunning" are, ah, um, not particularly helpful in this case. Care to elaborate?



Your not skiing centered or forward. You are leaning back. This uses the back of your calves as a fulcrum, and pushes your toes into the top of your boot.

post #8 of 12

If you're in the backseat, your quads should be burning after just a couple of runs.

post #9 of 12
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Your not skiing centered or forward. You are leaning back. This uses the back of your calves as a fulcrum, and pushes your toes into the top of your boot.

Absolutely, this gives you the feeling that your boot is too short also, which is very common. Get centered over your skis,feel the shin/tongue pressure of your boots and this will help relieve both issues. Hope this helps.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 


My quads are not at all fatigued or sore, even after many runs. However this does seem to be everyone's diagnosis, so I'll try to be more aware today and let you know how it goes! Thanks!

 

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Originally Posted by Daveski7 View Post


Absolutely, this gives you the feeling that your boot is too short also, which is very common. Get centered over your skis,feel the shin/tongue pressure of your boots and this will help relieve both issues. Hope this helps.


 

post #11 of 12
You might want to have your ankle dorsiflexion checked. I would guess your problem side has a tighter Achilles/calf muscle than the good side.
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 

Hey all, I had a lesson yesterday and the instructor and had no calf issue. She said I wasn't egregiously in the back seat except sometimes at the *end* of my turns, so she gave me some drills to keep my weight forward the whole time. And it seems to have worked! Thanks, all!

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