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Title: 2012 Nordica Steadfast

 

Product:

Length Tested:  170cm

Dimensions/Turn Radius:  132-90-118, 17m radius

Camber:  Early rise tip w/camber

Binding: Marker demo

Mount point: Suggested (boot center)

 

Environment & Conditions:

Location of Test:  Red Lodge Mountain

Number of Runs:  24+ over two consecutive days

Snow Conditions:  Hardpack with snow falling first day, second day 8” new snow

Demo or Own:  demo

 

Tester Info:

Username:  Gerry Rhoades

Age:  67

Height/Weight:  5’8” 150 pounds

Ski Days/Season:  around 50

Years Skiing:  50

Aggressiveness:  Moderately aggressive

Current Quiver:  163cm Volkl Supersport Allstar, 161cm Icelantic Shaman

Home Area:  Red Lodge Mountain, Montana

Preferred Terrain: bumps, off-piste, trees

 

Review:

After skiing the past two seasons on either the Volkls(70mm waist) or the Shamans(110mm waist) I decided it was time to look into an in-between ski, something around 90mm, camber and early rise/rocker tip.  There are a lot of skis that fit that description but the list was narrowed a lot by what I could actually demo:  Blizzard Bushwacker, Line Prophet 90 and Nordica Steadfast.  If I had been willing to drive 200 miles I think I could have demoed the Rossi Experience 88.  I tried the Bushwacker last year and it was a very good ski.  I spent a day on the Line Prophet 90s and they were excellent skis except for one thing.  In a steep narrow chute, they seemed very hooky when trying to make the quick tight turns needed to get down the chute.  Other than that it is a great ski.  I just spent the better part of two days skiing the Nordica Steadfast in just about every possible condition I will encounter at Red Lodge Mountain.  It started snowing about 8:45am on Friday at RLM and finally stopped later that night with about 8” of new snow recorded so I was skiing during and after the storm.  I skied trees with 8-12” of fresh, blue groomers with little to no fresh, black(?) groomers with snow piling up during the storm, hardpack underneath 3-4” of fresh, steep chutes with 6-8” of fresh and it was all good.  To me the Steadfast carves and holds an edge better than either of the other skis.  I would rate them as very similar in the bumps, at least I couldn’t tell any difference but that may be because of technique.  Both the P90 and Steadfasts were easy to maneuver in the trees.  I never skied the Bushwackers in the trees so I can’t compare them.  The real difference between the P90 and Steadfast was in the steep chute where the P90s gave me problems.  Not once did the Steadfast ever seem hooky in there.  Every turn I made was right where I wanted it to be.  I was skiing the chute with someone who is younger than I, skis quite a lot and has skied that run many times and I had to keep waiting for him to catch up, that’s how easy the Nordicas made it.  These skis are just great fun.

 

I’ll have my own pair, 170cm, by week’s end and couldn’t be happier about the choice.  These will be my daily drivers and the Shamans will come out on those days when we get a significant dump or if I go somewhere with lots of really deep powder.   Nordica calls this an “all mountain” ski and in the past that has meant a ski that not really very good at anything in particular.  For me, the Steadfast is truly an all mountain ski, one that could easily become the “one ski quiver.”

post #2 of 9

Nice review and I agree with what you said. I am 5'6", 155-160, skiing for more almost 35 years based in New England. Although I am on free heels for the past 8 years or so, most of my experience was on alpines.  

 

I chose the Steadfast (170cm) as my every day ski and could not be happier. In addition to what you said, the skis handle NE hardpack and ice very well. When on edge and carving, they feel like a race carver, accelerating through the turn, steady and stable at speed. Chopped up crud is breeze too, it just cuts through. Great one ski quiver in New England too. 

 

Thanks for the review.

post #3 of 9

Hello:

 Great info on the Steadfast. It's one of the skis I am looking at as well. I'm 5' 6" approx 150 lbs and was wondering if you tried the 178 cm length as well. I'm trying to decide between the 170 and 178 lengths and want to see if you have an opinion on any differences in handling of the two lengths? I don't intend to be using these to ski at high speeds, and value quickness over high speed stability.  Your thoughts?

 

thanks

post #4 of 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calbearski View Post

Hello:

 Great info on the Steadfast. It's one of the skis I am looking at as well. I'm 5' 6" approx 150 lbs and was wondering if you tried the 178 cm length as well. I'm trying to decide between the 170 and 178 lengths and want to see if you have an opinion on any differences in handling of the two lengths? I don't intend to be using these to ski at high speeds, and value quickness over high speed stability.  Your thoughts?

 

thanks

 if you want the quicker ski get the 170
 

 

post #5 of 9

Thoughts about the differences in stability in junky snow? Is the 170 length deflected much easier in crud vs. the 178?  Is there really much difference in quickness? Is there much difference in edgehold for a 150 lb. rider? I'm looking for general impressions on the differences between the two lengths.

 

thanks

post #6 of 9

With the wideness of the ski and your weight being only 150 (I am the same weight but 3" taller btw, and ski a 170) stability would not be an issue with the 170. The only advantage to going with the 177 (at your size) would be extra float in deeper powder; however if quickness is your preference the 170's will be quicker and I would think in most situations be a better fit for you. However if you are really concerned demo the two. However length is one of the most noticeable things that will change a feel of a ski so a 170 and a 177 (even in the same ski) will perform very differently for you IMHO

post #7 of 9

I agree. I am similar in size at 5'6"/155. The 170 is very stable at speed and has very good edge hold. If it holds in New England, it should be fine in NoCal. It also cuts through crud and remains stable in those conditions. If you want quickness, go with the 170.

post #8 of 9

Thanks,

 

This is the type of feedback I was looking for.

post #9 of 9

HI! I'm almost there for buying the steadfast!!! But I still have some hesitations...All my skis have metal in it and I'm having a little difficulty to buy a no-metal ski... At the same time, I'm searching for a ski a little bit less stiff than my avenger 82 ti for the days where snow is snow ( and not ice...) , for having less trouble in the moguls and when there is fresh snow...lets not forget glades...;-)

My problem is that I don't want to overpower the ski ( 6 feet, 200 pounds and agressive intermediate) but I would like a ski with a nice feeling in fresh snow too... I'm hesitating with the Line Prophet 90...

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

 

Title: 2012 Nordica Steadfast

 

Product:

Length Tested:  170cm

Dimensions/Turn Radius:  132-90-118, 17m radius

Camber:  Early rise tip w/camber

Binding: Marker demo

Mount point: Suggested (boot center)

 

Environment & Conditions:

Location of Test:  Red Lodge Mountain

Number of Runs:  24+ over two consecutive days

Snow Conditions:  Hardpack with snow falling first day, second day 8” new snow

Demo or Own:  demo

 

Tester Info:

Username:  Gerry Rhoades

Age:  67

Height/Weight:  5’8” 150 pounds

Ski Days/Season:  around 50

Years Skiing:  50

Aggressiveness:  Moderately aggressive

Current Quiver:  163cm Volkl Supersport Allstar, 161cm Icelantic Shaman

Home Area:  Red Lodge Mountain, Montana

Preferred Terrain: bumps, off-piste, trees

 

Review:

After skiing the past two seasons on either the Volkls(70mm waist) or the Shamans(110mm waist) I decided it was time to look into an in-between ski, something around 90mm, camber and early rise/rocker tip.  There are a lot of skis that fit that description but the list was narrowed a lot by what I could actually demo:  Blizzard Bushwacker, Line Prophet 90 and Nordica Steadfast.  If I had been willing to drive 200 miles I think I could have demoed the Rossi Experience 88.  I tried the Bushwacker last year and it was a very good ski.  I spent a day on the Line Prophet 90s and they were excellent skis except for one thing.  In a steep narrow chute, they seemed very hooky when trying to make the quick tight turns needed to get down the chute.  Other than that it is a great ski.  I just spent the better part of two days skiing the Nordica Steadfast in just about every possible condition I will encounter at Red Lodge Mountain.  It started snowing about 8:45am on Friday at RLM and finally stopped later that night with about 8” of new snow recorded so I was skiing during and after the storm.  I skied trees with 8-12” of fresh, blue groomers with little to no fresh, black(?) groomers with snow piling up during the storm, hardpack underneath 3-4” of fresh, steep chutes with 6-8” of fresh and it was all good.  To me the Steadfast carves and holds an edge better than either of the other skis.  I would rate them as very similar in the bumps, at least I couldn’t tell any difference but that may be because of technique.  Both the P90 and Steadfasts were easy to maneuver in the trees.  I never skied the Bushwackers in the trees so I can’t compare them.  The real difference between the P90 and Steadfast was in the steep chute where the P90s gave me problems.  Not once did the Steadfast ever seem hooky in there.  Every turn I made was right where I wanted it to be.  I was skiing the chute with someone who is younger than I, skis quite a lot and has skied that run many times and I had to keep waiting for him to catch up, that’s how easy the Nordicas made it.  These skis are just great fun.

 

I’ll have my own pair, 170cm, by week’s end and couldn’t be happier about the choice.  These will be my daily drivers and the Shamans will come out on those days when we get a significant dump or if I go somewhere with lots of really deep powder.   Nordica calls this an “all mountain” ski and in the past that has meant a ski that not really very good at anything in particular.  For me, the Steadfast is truly an all mountain ski, one that could easily become the “one ski quiver.”



 

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