I see the thread is heating up again and could not help but to jump back in.
This thread started as an observation/opinion on (over)development of certain ski area. Then, more ski areas are brought in to the discussion for similar "sins". Then issue of InterConnect took over. Many posts and "insults"/misunderstandings later - we are still at a standstill with two light years apart camps. Environment and business. It strikes me that most people are so far apart. That is not necessarily bad, in order to come to a compromise we have to find our extremes. If you look at "EpicSki" logo on the upper left corner it depicts mountain without any ski lift lines or on-mountain development. on the other hand - without ski lifts and development forum like this would be impossible.
My questions and reasons to jump into this discussion are:
- Does skiing industry that directly depends on environment, have to draw on extracurricular income (real estate, golf, gambling, etc.) to sustain itself without major amends to the environment on which it depends? If so, where is the limit without harming itself?
My 2cents: It is not "either-or" model. In today's business one has to get out of conventional thinking (make money and run) and still successfully operate self sustainable business. (I am curious- is Snowbasin profitable without major on-mountain real estate development?)
-What would the compromise be in any particular situation (Canyons-Solitude connect, further real estate development, watershed issues, road congestion)? Any ideas and why so?
My 5cents: light rail to transport skiers to LCC/BCC with non-combustible engine vehicles used to deliver services/goods and alternative energy powered lifts and villages. It creates jobs in construction, keeps the area "unspoiled" for those who prefer that to urban sprawl/(over)development of Park City side. Many takers there, I bet. The base of LCC/BCC could use some reasonable development like new hotels, restaurants etc. That would be scenic 20 minute ride to the lifts.
-Why do we get to choose from 100 different cereals in grocery store but when it comes to issues that affect all of us more than cereal choices we are limited to 2 extremely opposite sides of the spectrum? It is not "Ferrari" vs."pick-up" choice as somebody mentioned earlier (still think it is hilarious comparison, more like Hummer- not Ferrari)
My 10cents: There are still choices for our skiing pleasure, but if development runs wild without broader public/user impact and is solely driven by desire for profit we will not have even one choice. Our children would be skiing in indoor "ski domes" while real mountains are covered in "tastefully designed 5000 sq.ft. leisure homes" that are sold and resold just because there is a demand for those homes. Business that could not adapt to more "lean and green" business model would ultimately be left behind.
Regarding that ski lift between Canyons and Solitude, Talisker made an "error" by bringing this issue to the Congress. Now US Representative representing my community will be held accountable by voters (BIG city-liberal) if land that belongs to USFS is somehow transferred to private enterprise. Local big-city liberals are just waiting for the bones to fight about, I can envision hipster kid stopping me on the street offering to educate me on this and similar issues. Do not underestimate hipster kids - they fight hard for what they believe in. This is not just a local issue - transfer of USFS lands to private enterprise is not just a local issue as long as that land belongs to USFS (emphasis on US). No lift- it is OK as is, no more development on Federal land - there is enough private land to mess it up. Leave some lands/mountains to serve as a logo inspiration. One can argue that water supply should be a local issue, that community development should be a local issue, transfer of USFS lands to private enterprise is not a local issue.
Unfortunately and sadly, I think that big business would win because of prevailing corruption in our political and business environment.
And now, instead of zeroing in on my post and dissecting it I dare you to come with some suggestions of your own without "assailing" opposite opinion.