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Your not applying pressure to the front of the ski to turn at all, you see it on the snow (or lack thereof) coming off of the the ski.  The reason you bend forward (upper body) is to try and apply this pressure and your bum sticks out to compensate.  Press a little with the knee (shin) and bring the shoulders back, bum will automatically come in.  Easy way is to relax and ski upright resting slightly on the shins as you ski, the balance you ultimately achieve (ideally neutral) will be the better (upper body closer to vertical) stance. The still photo you provided clear shows an almost vertical lower leg.  This video also shows a slight slide in the tails indicating  wt slightly back (again bum sticking out) 


I agree with EPIC slide slip, both directions 10 to 20 feet each side, each run.  Try to slide without dropping tips or tails, and without drifting front or back.   Not as easy as it sounds. You'll notice the difference in both stance and turns once you hit that neutral point.  (Still do this a couple of times everytime I ski, instant feedback, instant correction, instant neutra, perfect balance).


You're trying to the right thing with the wrong body parts.




post #32 of 36
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Originally Posted by Metaphor_ View Post

Hi Chilehed, 


First off, congrats on posting a video and withstanding all the critique. Feedback here can sometimes be overwhelming!... 


...imagine you have a sign on your chest, and think about showing it off to everyone -- you can't show it off if you're piked over!...


...I'm not sure what you're wearing around your hips (fanny pack?) but my suggestion is if you can ski without it, do so - gear tends to shift people's balance point... 

Yeah, even when you've asked for criticism and it's given well, it can be difficult to hear. Part of the human state. 

Sign on your chest, legs upright, this image, that image... the one that helps me the most I came up with on my own: there's this other rhythmic activity I like doing with my wife. While I'm doing it am I folding myself up with my butt to the rear, or am I opening up and driving my pelvis forward? It's kind of like that.


On patrol I gotta have my pack. Never know when I'll get a call.

Originally Posted by epic View Post

I'm going to disagree with the idea that your boots are too stiff. If anything it looks to me like they could be too soft. The reason I asked about what you feel in your feet is that it looks to me like you are leaning on your boots way too much and don't have "neutral". I'd still like you to think about the questions I asked you next time you are skiing. Not right ow while you are sitting in front of your computer, even so, the answer you gave that you are on your balls and absolutely pressing on the tongues is what I'd expect to hear. I'd like you to try and ski with your weight more evenly distributed from your toes to your heels, and with your ankles soft, but not with your shins pressing hard on your boots. I'd like you to try skiing with the boots unbuckled so that the tongue can't hold you up, but you'll have to stand on your own too feet. Try some sideslips and pivot slips. If you took video, of them, and were doing them successfully, I think your stance will look different. Your knees will probably be less bent, your femurs more vertical.

I'll try it tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post

I think the bootfitters would have an interesting day with you.  I'm a bit curious if you have limited dorsiflexion.  If you sit in a chair with your feet flat on the ground and a 90-degree bend at the knee, how high can you flex your foot?  This gas-pedal movement is essential to being able to be forward, without bending at the waist to get there.  I agree with Epic the boots are probably not the problem, but then again, they may not be helping either.

Just measured it with my drafting triangles, it's right around 30 degrees. Standing up and doing a deep squat my lower leg gets to about 45 degrees.

post #33 of 36
Originally Posted by chilehed View Post
Just measured it with my drafting triangles, it's right around 30 degrees. Standing up and doing a deep squat my lower leg gets to about 45 degrees.


Well, we can eliminate ROM (range of motion) as a root cause.

post #34 of 36

"While I'm doing it am I folding myself up with my butt to the rear,"


Yes that is what you are doing skiing.  Do this more in the upper and lower legs and less in the upper legs and body.  On the extreme, upper body remains vertical and moves up and down only, motion occurs in legs, balance remains same, pressure applied with shin or rear of lower leg for wt and un-wt, front to back balance.


The Side Slip exercise will correct this by insuring your understanding of neutral balance, because it forces the above extreme.



Sorry for the typos earlier, kids around, multi tasking.



post #35 of 36
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Originally Posted by oldschoolskier View Post

"While I'm doing it am I folding myself up with my butt to the rear,"


Yes that is what you are doing skiing.


Yeah, yeah, I got it already... it was a rhetorical question.


Had a productive day, unfortunately wasn't able to video but the feedback's helped a bunch. After my normal warmup (1,000 steps, shuffles, sideslips, etc) I skied with loose boots, with poles and arms behind my back, worked on raising my inside hip and shortening the inside leg, letting my hip joints move more freely, opening up and getting my pelvis forward like giving it to my wife, getting my upper body to not follow the skis, better arm motion with the pole plants... holy crap, that was a lot of stuff! I think I even managed to put it all together reasonably well on a few turns towards the end of the day. Was told I looked 1,000% better.


Was talking about boot stiffness with one of my trainers and he let me borrow his Lange Blaster 100's for a while. They're a LOT softer than my Atomics, and I really liked it. Wasn't getting banged around so hard in the crud, was much better balanced and I guess that I was pressuring the tips a lot better 'cause I high-sided a number of times when they squirted out in the transitions. Was a blast. And I got some residual good out of it when I put my own boots back on,... but I'm still pretty sure that I'm springing for a pair of softer boots this year.


I'll keep working on it all, but again, thanks for the help. Hopefully the season will last longer than it looks like it will, otherwise I may be done in a couple of weeks unless I can go up north.

post #36 of 36

If you like the fit of your boots, you might talk to a fitter about softening yours up instead of buying softer.  My guy always says he can make a boot a lot softer if needed; not the reverse.

But I'm only reporting what I've heard; I'm only an expert on this on the internet. smile.gif

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