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Poll Results: What is the most popular alpine ski sold at Jackson Hole this winter (2011/2012):

 
  • 0% (0)
    Atomic Bent Chetler
  • 0% (0)
    Atomic Blog
  • 2% (1)
    Atomic Access
  • 2% (1)
    Blizzard Bodacious
  • 8% (3)
    Blizzard Cochise
  • 10% (4)
    Blizzard Bonafide
  • 8% (3)
    Blizzard 8.7 Magnum
  • 0% (0)
    K2 Pon2oon
  • 0% (0)
    K2 Sidestash
  • 5% (2)
    k2 Coomback
  • 5% (2)
    K2 Rictor
  • 2% (1)
    Dynastar Legend Big Dump
  • 5% (2)
    Dynastar Legend Pro Rider 105
  • 2% (1)
    Dynastar Legend 94
  • 0% (0)
    Dynastar Legend 84
  • 8% (3)
    Rossignol Experience 88
  • 16% (6)
    Rossignol Experience 98
  • 13% (5)
    Rossignol S7
  • 5% (2)
    Rossignol Super 7
  • 2% (1)
    Volkl Gotama
37 Total Votes  
post #31 of 49

Ha! I should have only considered Rossi, since it is the only brand sold at

both shops.

 

Too bad the rep doesn't know what a good ski it is (or isnt) since he hasn't been on

snow since I have lived here!  That guy is a real piece of work.

post #32 of 49
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post


You would be correct!
The Rossignol Experience 88 has sold more than any other ski at those outlets this year. Word of mouth is great on them but most everyone who is local knows there aren't any left here to buy.
I know that the Kastle 88 and 98 are selling really, really well, but believe it or not quite a few people who covet the skis balk at the price.
Certainly the low snowfall this season is contributing to the popularity of a ski as "narrow" as the E88, but I think it's interesting that a "frontside" ski should be so popular.
THANKS FOR PLAYING!

This season has played hell with lot's of quivers. I'm now on a *gasp* 96 waist ski for daily use.
 

 

post #33 of 49

If you have to ski some truly difficult terrain, you have to get real when you pick the ski. this proves it.

 

a similar trend has not occurred here as no one wants to ride a new ski with such thin coverage, just hangin' with last few years' daily drivers.

post #34 of 49

Hmmm. May say more about the season than the ski. When I was there a couple of years ago, the place was thick with 100+'ers. 

post #35 of 49

Bob, how is the Exp 98 doing in comparison?  Any thoughts?

post #36 of 49
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

Hmmm. May say more about the season than the ski. When I was there a couple of years ago, the place was thick with 100+'ers. 

 

I agree to some extent.  There's no question that lots of new snow sells lots of powder skis.  But I think it goes a little deeper than that.  

 

Perhaps people here in Jackson (and at other Western resorts?) are re-discovering that narrower skis really DO ski a LOT better on groomers and big, hard, bumps in the trees and mogul runs.  They're quicker, more precise, better at carving, less clunky, and just more fun.  

 

Will that become a trend that the ski industry  will notice?  Hard to say.

 

 

 

post #37 of 49
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunnerbob View Post

Bob, how is the Exp 98 doing in comparison?  Any thoughts?


The feedback from the shops seems to be that if you fall in the right demographic for the E98, it's an absolute killer.  Strong, technically proficient, hard-charging skiers really like the ski.  It's a ski that likes to be driven hard, however, and that means it's a little less forgiving or versatile than the E88.  The two are very different skis.

 

post #38 of 49
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

Perhaps people here in Jackson (and at other Western resorts?) are re-discovering that narrower skis really DO ski a LOT better on groomers and big, hard, bumps in the trees and mogul runs.  They're quicker, more precise, better at carving, less clunky, and just more fun.  

 

Will that become a trend that the ski industry  will notice?  Hard to say. Not if Spindrift has anything to say about it. biggrin.gif But yeah, I await the rediscovery of porpoising. Or more likely, the further bifurcation of our sport. Yesterday in NH, was skiing on brutally hard, scrapped off manmade at a cheery -4 degrees and windy. About half those out there were trying to set our edges on 63-72 mm carvers. The other half were on high 80's and up freestyle and park skis. Skiing the same conditions very differently, but managing fine. Less sure it's about "better," or even about skiing per se, and more about how we locate ourselves culturally. You're not going to get a 20-something on an Obsethed to ever enjoy a Titan, anymore than you'll ever see them wearing a Spyder or Kjus. Just won't happen. And the industry pays attention to culture cuz culture = $$...



 

post #39 of 49
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

 

Perhaps people here in Jackson (and at other Western resorts?) are re-discovering that narrower skis really DO ski a LOT better on groomers and big, hard, bumps in the trees and mogul runs.  They're quicker, more precise, better at carving, less clunky, and just more fun.  

 

 

 

 

 


Bob,

Last I remember, you were still looking for that narrower carver than the E88 in the Rossi Line. Did you find one yet? Really, you need to find one. I've always justified my narrow carver love by stating if BP skis narrow in Jackson, I don't need no stinkin fat ski!

 

post #40 of 49
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

I agree to some extent.  There's no question that lots of new snow sells lots of powder skis.  But I think it goes a little deeper than that.

Perhaps people here in Jackson (and at other Western resorts?) are re-discovering that narrower skis really DO ski a LOT better on groomers and big, hard, bumps in the trees and mogul runs.  They're quicker, more precise, better at carving, less clunky, and just more fun.  

 


Good guess, I voted for the E88's too beercheer.gif

16 days in a row today at Whistler. only 1st 3 were on the S3's with the new snow. Hasn't snowed really since then so last 13 on the Titan's, perfect.

I think the fat skis are becoming the new snowboards here. Basically a lot of people ski them and just bulldoze half the mountain off the frontside cause they can't be bothered setting an edge, if they could anyway?
 

 

post #41 of 49
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

Perhaps people here in Jackson (and at other Western resorts?) are re-discovering that narrower skis really DO ski a LOT better on groomers and big, hard, bumps in the trees and mogul runs.  They're quicker, more precise, better at carving, less clunky, and just more fun.

It's
post #42 of 49

I personally have been TRYING to demo powder skis, but found few days where they were the "right" ski for it.  And the few days they might have been the right ski I was too busy enjoying myself on my old Outlaws to fuss around with something new.  

post #43 of 49


 

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Originally Posted by snala View Post

 

I think the fat skis are becoming the new snowboards here. Basically a lot of people ski them and just bulldoze half the mountain off the frontside cause they can't be bothered setting an edge, if they could anyway?
 

 



I think you're right.  Most people on this forum are probably the exception, but the vast majority of skiers most likely benefit from fatties, which make recreational all-around skiing easier.  No need to carve a hard edge, less skillful technique required, and less demanding.  Again, not for the Bears, but for most of the "market" (ie-people to whom these companies are marketed hard), just putz around on the hill on some fatties and call it a day.  Dumbing down things, I think.

post #44 of 49
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Originally Posted by Gunnerbob View Post


 



I think you're right.  Most people on this forum are probably the exception, but the vast majority of skiers most likely benefit from fatties, which make recreational all-around skiing easier.  No need to carve a hard edge, less skillful technique required, and less demanding.  Again, not for the Bears, but for most of the "market" (ie-people to whom these companies are marketed hard), just putz around on the hill on some fatties and call it a day.  Dumbing down things, I think.



Good thing you can make that judgement from......Ontario.

post #45 of 49

Sigh. Your elitism shines through, yet again.  Another attempt as useful discussion again sidetracked by such low brow retorts.

 

Moving along out of this thread......

post #46 of 49
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Originally Posted by Gunnerbob View Post


 



I think you're right.  Most people on this forum are probably the exception, but the vast majority of skiers most likely benefit from fatties, which make recreational all-around skiing easier.  No need to carve a hard edge, less skillful technique required, and less demanding.  Again, not for the Bears, but for most of the "market" (ie-people to whom these companies are marketed hard), just putz around on the hill on some fatties and call it a day.  Dumbing down things, I think.



 



Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunnerbob View Post

Sigh. Your elitism shines through, yet again.  Another attempt as useful discussion again sidetracked by such low brow retorts.

 

Moving along out of this thread......


I figured I would quote you again. Who is the elitist?

 

post #47 of 49

Looking for Block feature.........ah, there it is.

 

Have a nice day.

post #48 of 49

I wonder if last years' most sold was 10-15mm wider.

post #49 of 49
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Originally Posted by supergaper View Post

Ha! I should have only considered Rossi, since it is the only brand sold at

both shops.

 

Too bad the rep doesn't know what a good ski it is (or isnt) since he hasn't been on

snow since I have lived here!  That guy is a real piece of work.



 

That's funny!  I remember doing a demo at Sun Valley 5 or 6 years ago where he was walking around in ski boots all day to make it look like he had or was going to take some runs but never actually did.  Doubt he's skied since..,

 

Douche!

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