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WTB Twin tip skis 165-175

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

Want to buy a pair of twin tips around 165-175 cm.  New or used is fine.  I ski mainly in Cincinnati so I don't want anything too wide, though I do take a trip out west once a year.  Looking for something with an underfoot between 85-95, maybe a bit wider depending on if its a good deal.  I am 5'10 210 lbs, and intermediate-advanced.  Most of my skiing is all mountain but I am looking to get into some park skiing as well.  I like moguls so I would prefer something that can handle them a little as well.  Nothing too crazy, I cant drop $800 on a setup.  Thanks guys! 

post #2 of 18

I've got a pair of used Stockli Rotor 74 skis, unmounted.  I'm pretty sure they are a 165.  I'll sell them for $100.  They're some of the best skis I've ever used but I just got the new model so these have just been in my garage this season.

 

If you need bindings, I could see if I could wrangle some together for you.  Obviously the price would go up a bit...

post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 

what year and what condition are they in?

post #4 of 18

For your size, go with 175 or a little longer. Remember that twin tips are going to ski short. 165 would probably be too short for you. They would be for me, and I'm an inch shorter and 50+ pounds lighter. I'm probably a little more advanced than you, which comes into play with the length, but for someone your size, definitely go longer.

post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 

okay cool thanks for the help!  i didnt know if getting into the 180 range would be too long.

post #6 of 18

take any SKI advice coming out of Pittsburgh, PA, with a grain of salt...I've lived in Vail my entire life, skied since I was 3, reached top 10 national rankings in ski-racing during my teens (sponsorships, the whole gig), and have since diverted and focused my attention on freestyle and big mountain freeriding.  I'd say I know a thing or two about skiing and ski equipment...I am 5'10 180 lbs, and coming from a racing background, I prefer longer skis.  These Rotor 74s are 159 cm long, which seems short, but don't judge this book by it's cover.  I skied these Rotor 74s for 2 seasons and haven't wanted to stop skiing them.  There's a reason that Stockli only makes these skis in 149 and 159 and that they retail for $1,200...it is because that is as long as you will want/need them and, at $1,200, the construction technology is advanced to the point where these things can dominate anything.  Their relatively short length makes them extremely light and nimble when you're throwing tricks in the parks and makes trick execution THAT MUCH easier.  Their advanced design/construction allows them to carve up groomers and bounce through moguls. 

 

it sounds like you are still early in your freestyle career.  Even if I weren't trying to sell these skis, I would still recommend a shorter ski because it makes everything you do much easier (you don't want a bunch of extra length/weight making your spins/flips etc more difficult, do you?)

 

There's a reason that FIS has length requirements for race skis.  It is because the pros would be using shorter and shorter skis because it makes skiing the same line much easier.

 

I just don't want to see you base an important decision off of warped/incomplete advice.  I'm not 210 lbs. but I probably put more pressure/torque on my skis than most.  If I loved these skis I would assume that you will love them too.

 

the skis are the 2009 model, bases and edges are perfect, a bit of lamination chipping on the top sheet.  

 

And honestly...these retail for $1200.00 and I'm offering them at $100...

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Originally Posted by DSloan View Post

For your size, go with 175 or a little longer. Remember that twin tips are going to ski short. 165 would probably be too short for you. They would be for me, and I'm an inch shorter and 50+ pounds lighter. I'm probably a little more advanced than you, which comes into play with the length, but for someone your size, definitely go longer.



 

post #7 of 18

Take any information coming from someone trying to sell you something with a grain of salt . . .

 

To be fair, coskiguy makes a lot of good points. However, something to consider: someone with his skiing background is going to be adept at handling skis in a variety of situations. Good on him! I am unfamiliar with the Stocklis, so they may be just fine. Do some research and demo if you can before you commit to a ski.
 

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Originally Posted by coskiguy View Post

take any SKI advice coming out of Pittsburgh, PA, with a grain of salt...I've lived in Vail my entire life, skied since I was 3, reached top 10 national rankings in ski-racing during my teens (sponsorships, the whole gig), and have since diverted and focused my attention on freestyle and big mountain freeriding.  I'd say I know a thing or two about skiing and ski equipment...I am 5'10 180 lbs, and coming from a racing background, I prefer longer skis.  These Rotor 74s are 159 cm long, which seems short, but don't judge this book by it's cover.  I skied these Rotor 74s for 2 seasons and haven't wanted to stop skiing them.  There's a reason that Stockli only makes these skis in 149 and 159 and that they retail for $1,200...it is because that is as long as you will want/need them and, at $1,200, the construction technology is advanced to the point where these things can dominate anything.  Their relatively short length makes them extremely light and nimble when you're throwing tricks in the parks and makes trick execution THAT MUCH easier.  Their advanced design/construction allows them to carve up groomers and bounce through moguls. 

 

it sounds like you are still early in your freestyle career.  Even if I weren't trying to sell these skis, I would still recommend a shorter ski because it makes everything you do much easier (you don't want a bunch of extra length/weight making your spins/flips etc more difficult, do you?)

 

There's a reason that FIS has length requirements for race skis.  It is because the pros would be using shorter and shorter skis because it makes skiing the same line much easier.

 

I just don't want to see you base an important decision off of warped/incomplete advice.  I'm not 210 lbs. but I probably put more pressure/torque on my skis than most.  If I loved these skis I would assume that you will love them too.

 

the skis are the 2009 model, bases and edges are perfect, a bit of lamination chipping on the top sheet.  

 

And honestly...these retail for $1200.00 and I'm offering them at $100...



 



 

post #8 of 18

I have a pair of 2008 Head Monster 78s in 177cm that I intend to sell but haven't got around to.  They are in near new condition with less than 10 days on them.  If interested, i'll get some pictures together.  They have Tyrolia adjustable bindings, so no need to remount.  Here's the catlog picture.

monster_78.jpg
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Originally Posted by coskiguy View Post

take any SKI advice coming out of Pittsburgh, PA, with a grain of salt...I've lived in Vail my entire life, skied since I was 3, reached top 10 national rankings in [blah blah blah]


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Originally Posted by DSloan View Post

Take any information coming from someone trying to sell you something with a grain of salt . . .

 

 

Seriously.  I'd take it one step further.  Take any ski advice from anyone with a grain of salt.

 

I'll admit that I have no experience with Stockli at all, however I'd be very skeptical of a 159cm ski that the manufacturer describes as "a comfort-oriented, easy to control ski ideal for all trail conditions" and "designed to be lighter, softer and more flexible, making turn initiation and completion easier for lighter skiers and at slower speeds."  In every marketing speak I've ever heard, that means a beginner/intermediate ski.  If I'm wrong, because I don't know Stockli, fine. But as a 210lb intermediate/advanced skier, I would be wary if I was the OP.

post #10 of 18
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Seriously.  I'd take it one step further.  Take any ski advice from anyone with a grain of salt.

 



Touché.

post #11 of 18

5' 10" and 210 on a 165cm twintip?  Twins ski at least 5cm short, if not 10cm short, so you need to think at least 175 at your size.  The extra length may take a bit of getting used to, but you'll adapt pretty quickly and will be able to ski them for longer as you become more skilled.

 

That said, I have a pair of brand new 181cm Head Blackjack 80s that I could let go for $150 shipped.  Got them a couple of months ago and then found another pair I liked better so I never mounted them.  Also have a pair of Head LD12 bindings that I can throw in for an additional $75.  Good quality binding that has the full diagonal release function.  They are used, but are in like new condition.  Skis are quality all mountain twintips and should be a good fit for what you want to do with them.

 

Here are the skis.

Blackjack 80s.jpg

 

They even still have the sticker on them!

 

Blackjack 80 Tag.jpg

post #12 of 18
Any interest in some unique park skis made in Japan. They are 173s. I bet you won't see many, if any, other pairs out there. They are in great shape (never seen a rail or much other use) and have been mounted once for Griffons (which I have sold). Looking for $100.
700
post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 

bump actually i am looking for something between 170-180  anyone got anything?

post #14 of 18

How about a pair of K2 Revivals. 2010-2011 model, 179cm, with Marker Griffons mounted for 301 BSL. Skied about 12 times and in very good shape.

 

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bump actually i am looking for something between 170-180  anyone got anything?



 

post #15 of 18

How about a pair of Line Prophet 100's in a 179?

post #16 of 18
Anyone still selling?
post #17 of 18
I don't have any twin tips available, but I did see some ninthwards on sale at Levelnine for $169. Pretty good ski for the money.
post #18 of 18

172cm Blizzard Peacemaker in the wrapper -- shipped for 500

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