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Volkl WC GS Racetiger edge angles ?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

So I found a really cheap price for a pair of new World Cup GS Racetiger skis on Ebay ( $118 I think they have a few more pairs) and I couldn't resit a chance to see what a "world cup race stock ski" would feel like.

I got the skis and they have no finish on them at all including lack of edge grind.

So what angles do you folks recommend I put on them?

I'll be skiing them mostly on icy NE slopes and maybe for NASTAR if I can handle them. If not I'll just take'm out once in a while and see what it's like to try to carve like the big boys :)

post #2 of 20

I ran mine at 3/0.5 and they ran great. Any base bevel below 1* would be satisfactory and useful but the side edge is up to you. start at 2* and move your way to something you like.

post #3 of 20
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Originally Posted by TMAS29 View Post

I ran mine at 3/0.5 and they ran great. Any base bevel below 1* would be satisfactory and useful but the side edge is up to you. start at 2* and move your way to something you like.



Thank you, I think that's what their "retail" race skis are 2 and 1 so you're right I'll start at 2 and see from there!

post #4 of 20

Have them stone ground by a decent shop.

I'd go 0.75 base and 3deg side. If the shop thinks you're crazy, you're at the wrong shop. btw, there's not many great ones.

post #5 of 20

I'd do 0.5 base/ 3 side. If 0.5 feels like too much, you can always back it off from there, but you can't go the other way without another grind.

post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

Have them stone ground by a decent shop.

I'd go 0.75 base and 3deg side. If the shop thinks you're crazy, you're at the wrong shop. btw, there's not many great ones.



yeah no kidding.

post #7 of 20
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I'd do 0.5 base/ 3 side. If 0.5 feels like too much, you can always back it off from there, but you can't go the other way without another grind.


 

That makes sense too and if I'm gonna do this gradually should I also start with a 2 side or do you just feel that 3 is an all around decent edge bevel ?

Also when/if I want to go to .75 should I do that by hand or have them reground?

post #8 of 20


 

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Originally Posted by Jiuk View Post


 

That makes sense too and if I'm gonna do this gradually should I also start with a 2 side or do you just feel that 3 is an all around decent edge bevel ?

Also when/if I want to go to .75 should I do that by hand or have them reground?


I'd just start at 3. As for changing base bevel, the shop would do it by hand. If you have the guides, and trust yourself, you can too.

post #9 of 20

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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

Have them stone ground by a decent shop.

I'd go 0.75 base and 3deg side. If the shop thinks you're crazy, you're at the wrong shop. btw, there's not many great ones.



 

post #10 of 20

You should always quote base bevel first.

so 0.5/3

 

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Originally Posted by TMAS29 View Post

I ran mine at 3/0.5 and they ran great. Any base bevel below 1* would be satisfactory and useful but the side edge is up to you. start at 2* and move your way to something you like.



 

post #11 of 20
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How far back should I de-tune front and back?

post #12 of 20

0.0cm

post #13 of 20

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0.0cm



 

post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
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How far back should I de-tune front and back?



 



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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

0.0cm




Really, no detuning at all ? Then they're done :)

post #15 of 20

NO detuning. If your bevel angles are correct and your edges are burr free, no reason to detune unless you have a stance alignment issue.

 

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Really, no detuning at all ? Then they're done :)


Edited by Atomicman - 1/27/15 at 7:42am
post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 

These are some amazing skis

 

post #17 of 20

Sounds like you already did it, but for anyone else wondering.  0.5 base, 3 side, razor sharp everywhere, no detuning. 

post #18 of 20
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Sounds like you already did it, but for anyone else wondering.  0.5 base, 3 side, razor sharp everywhere, no detuning. 



Yeap that's what I have on them but I think I'll take them to .75 because it feels that at .5 I'm kinda "hindering" them instead of letting them run. I am not sure if that makes any sense but that's what I'm feeling with the skis

post #19 of 20
What is the factory tunning? The base almost seams flat.
post #20 of 20
Lot's of race ski are flat on the bottom from the factory.
You can go ski that after side edge beveling to 3deg. Just be careful.
Recommended is 0.5 -1 deg base bevel. Start low go up if wanted.
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