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post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 

I'm preparing for the Level II, Part I, Alpine exam this year. 

 

Has anyone taken the exam in the past year or so and can share what optional tasks, e.g. pivit slip, falling leaf, etc., were used for the exam?

 

Also, any tips or insights into recent Part 1 exams would be greatly appreciated.

 

I understand every exam may be a little different, just hoping to garner some more recent insight, as most of the postings here are from five or six years ago.

 

Thanks for any help!

 

Ken

post #2 of 28

What division Dawg?

Have you seen the PSIA-E study guide?

Excerpt:

 

Possible Selected Skiing Tasks
¾ Short radius turns in fall line – maintain constant speed and radius 
¾ Medium radius turns – maintain constant speed and radius 
¾ Free runs 
¾ Lane change – five short turns, change on the 5th turn (width of a grooming lane) 
¾ Medium/Short/Medium (ski an hourglass) 
¾ Short/Medium/Short 
¾ Medium radius turns – moderate speed to VERY slow speed, back to moderate 
¾ Short radius turns accelerating OR decelerating 
¾ Traverse – weight basically even; uphill knee and hip slightly forward 
1. traverse from point A to point B – maintain a straight line 
2. ride the natural sidecut of the ski 
 
Reference Maneuvers 
¾ Skating/stepping/tracking maneuvers 
¾ Wedge Turns 
¾ Spontaneous Christies – vary the turn radius, speed, terrain 
¾ Open Parallel – vary the turn radius 
 
Bumps 
Candidates must be able to ski any intermediate bumps.  The focus will be on accuracy and 
speed control, so as to be able to lead students down the terrain.
 
Versatility 
¾ Falling leaf – alternating diagonal sideslipping 
¾ Ski only on the inside ski – make only slight direction changes on easy terrain; maintain 
 functional alignment of body parts 
¾ Skate down the fall line (on easy terrain) 
¾ Stem christies 
¾ Open parallel turns – NO poles 
 
These exam tasks as well as differing lines, speeds, terrain, turn sizes, and the possibility of 
gates and half pipe make up the Level II Part 1 - Skiing Exam.  Terrain and Mountain conditions 
may or may not be suitable for some of these tasks.   

 

post #3 of 28

I think you left out Leapers. At least I was told we'll have to demo those.

post #4 of 28
Thread Starter 

Rusty ... Eastern Division, and I'm familiar with what the exam guide includes.  I was hoping to hear from some folks who've taken the exam in the past year or so to see which of those skills/tasks were included in the evaluation.

 

Would still like to hear from anyone who took a Level II, Part I exam...Thanks for all replies!!! :)

post #5 of 28

Hi Ken, Do you have someone training you? If not consider taking the Level 2 Exam Prep. You'll get a pretty good feel for how the exam is run in the first day and a half and coaching the second afternoon. The evaluation at the end should be useful. We did wedge turns, skating down the fall line, falling leaf, railroad tracks, short & medium radius turns, skating, A to B traverse, free run and spontaneous christies. The "warm up run" is part of the exam. The examiner could pick eight of any of the tasks Rusty listed.

post #6 of 28

My exam (2004) had the following:

  • Skate down a green fall line
  • Short radius turns on black
  • Lane changes
  • Blue bumps (Be able to lead a class through them, you don't have to hit the zipper line.  You need to be fluid and constantly moving.  No stop and bump shop.)
  • Free skiing
  • Long radius turns
  • Medium radius turns
  • Pivot slips
  • Traverse (both straight and follow natural sidecut)
  • Demo a stem christi (Not part of the reference moves but a challenge to see who could do it.  I did stems and step stems.  Then to I learned to ski in 1965. rolleyes.gif)
  • Spontaneous christis (Practice these and get them right.  All movements are down the hill.  There should be no stemming of the uphill/outside ski.)
  • Wedge turns.

 

All three examiners had us do the same tasks.  However, the terrain was different.

post #7 of 28
Thread Starter 

Jimmy ... I took the Prep Course just before Christmas.  The conditions weren't the best, little snow, an entire afternoon of rain, but we pushed through all of the mandatory skills.  However, of the optional skills, we only went over railroad tracks and skating down the fall line.  We never had a mock evaluation.  We did get a lot of group coaching and insight into what types of things the evaluators look for.  We never did any bumps, falling leaf, lane changes, or traverses.

 

I do have several of our Level III instructors coaching me and am aware of all the possible tasks/skills for the eval.  I'm very interested to hear from others how recent exams have gone.

post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 

T-Square ... Thanks for the recap of your Level II exam, sounds like things haven't changed too much.  It was interesting to read about your stem Christies...sounds like you pulled it off with no problems.

post #9 of 28

Where do you plan on taking it?

 

I am going to be at the one up in Sunday River March 7-8.

post #10 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Where do you plan on taking it?

 

I am going to be at the one up in Sunday River March 7-8.



Vince ... I'm going up to Loon Feb 13-14.  Sorry We'll miss each other.  I'll post some post-eval info when I get back. Good luck to you!!!

 

post #11 of 28
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Vince ... I'm going up to Loon Feb 13-14.  Sorry We'll miss each other.  I'll post some post-eval info when I get back. Good luck to you!!!

 


Good luck to you as well.  Let me know how it goes and what kinds of task they give you.

 

post #12 of 28

So how did it go?

 

What tasks did they have you do?

 

 

post #13 of 28

I was at Loon for the exam as well. Tasks we did were:

 

Wedge turns

Wedge christies

Open parallel turns

Small radius turns accelerating and decelerating

Medium radius turns

Skating down the fall line

Falling leaf

Railroad tracks

Free run

 

I passed!

post #14 of 28

Congratulations!! Now on to the teaching portion.

post #15 of 28

Congrats otnavuskire!

 

When I took the practice exam we had the exact same tasks (except the medium radius turns)... I was sort of expecting lane changes to be in there somewhere, but I guess that can be up to the examiners.

 

By the way who were your examiners?

post #16 of 28

My examiners were Mick O'Gara, Bill Beerman, and Lisa Segal, although an ETS named Chris Dayton ran the show while Lisa scored. Only Mick and Lisa passed me. Bill didn't pass very many people, it seemed.

post #17 of 28
Thread Starter 

Erik...Congrats!!  I didn't do as well.  I know David from our group also passed...do you know if anyone else did? 

 

I think the pass rate overall for our exam was less than 50%.  We had 32 people take the Level II, Part 1.  I think only 10 to 14 or 15 passed.

 

Vince...The Exam Guide specifies the exam can take place on Blue or Groomed Black trails.  The first two examiners, Mick and Bill, took us on the steeps for our short radius turns.  My mountain is on the smaller side with very little in the way of steep groomed trails ... so make sure you pratice speed control for short radius turns on the steepest, groomed trails you can before you get to Sunday River.

 

I enjoyed skiing with you Erik!

 

Ken

post #18 of 28
So no bumps or skiing on the inside ski?

Congrats!
post #19 of 28
Thread Starter 

The bumps were in horrible condition, so in addition to short radius turns, we skied short radius turns with an acceleration and then a deceleration. 

 

The evaluators get together ahead of time and decide on which of the versitility tasks (Exam Guide, p. 20-21) will be used.  In our case it was falling leaf, skate down the fall line, open parallel and railroad tracks.  Different evaluators at a different exam might choose a different set of tasks.

post #20 of 28


 

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Originally Posted by SkiDawg15 View Post

Erik...Congrats!!  I didn't do as well.  I know David from our group also passed...do you know if anyone else did? 

 

I think the pass rate overall for our exam was less than 50%.  We had 32 people take the Level II, Part 1.  I think only 10 to 14 or 15 passed.

 

Vince...The Exam Guide specifies the exam can take place on Blue or Groomed Black trails.  The first two examiners, Mick and Bill, took us on the steeps for our short radius turns.  My mountain is on the smaller side with very little in the way of steep groomed trails ... so make sure you pratice speed control for short radius turns on the steepest, groomed trails you can before you get to Sunday River.

 

I enjoyed skiing with you Erik!

 

Ken



Hey Ken, thanks! I was wondering if you were the same Ken from my group. Sorry it didn't work out for you. Heather from our group also passed, not sure if anyone else did.

 

Another thing that happened was that a few people saw their numbers on the poster with the list of people who'd "passed", only to find out they hadn't passed once they got their evaluation. Needless to say they were very upset. I thought that was pretty unprofessional and sent an email to a couple of the PSIA-E higher-ups about it.

post #21 of 28

Just an update: Passed the L2 Teaching today! There were seven people from Stowe at Sunday River this week taking exams, and all seven passed. Two new L3 certs, two L2 skiers, and three new L2 certs (including myself).

post #22 of 28

Excellent, way to go.That is a great pass rate for all of you.

post #23 of 28
My wife was in a different group at Sunday River this week. She was the only one of 4 that passed and has her silver pin now.

She (and I) teach at Berkshire East, and she also taught and trained at Wachusett.
post #24 of 28

I passed my exam too... I did the skiing level II at Sunday River.

post #25 of 28

Congratulations otnavuskire & vinceK!!!!

 

Wear thonse Shiney new Silver Pins Proudly!!!!!

post #26 of 28

Awesome news! What advice would you pass on to those following in your footsteps?

post #27 of 28

For the skiing exam, make sure you have the low end demos down.

 

For teaching, keep it simple. Focus on one skill and one task to develop that skill for your teaching segment.

post #28 of 28

Good advice here....  In my recent level 2 tele exam I did much better on the high end stuff then the low end demos.  I passed at 2 on the low end and 3 on the high end which is still level 2 standard not 3 even though I am good at bumps, free skiing, and other "fun" stuff.  Ideally your low end demos should reflect the basic movements that are used in the high end skiing and be a gimme, but it is very easy to get complacent with things like wedge turns when you spend everyday teaching high end students.  For the teaching... remember VAK and try to relate your teaching to a specific body part and sensation as well as a single skill.  This covers multiple learning styles and will immediately put you closer to the level 3 standard.  It's best if you realize this and practice it in every lesson.  On exam day it will be easier and more natural AND your lessons will become more effective.  Also make sure you can "connect the dots" between any drills you use and the intended outcome of the teaching segment.  When most examiners ask for clarification, they are trying to help you pass.  Stick to your original thought/lesson plan and resist the urge to use the rope they're feeding you to hang yourself by shifting gears.
 

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Originally Posted by otnavuskire View Post

For the skiing exam, make sure you have the low end demos down.

 

For teaching, keep it simple. Focus on one skill and one task to develop that skill for your teaching segment.



 

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