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Giro G10 goggles keep sliding back/off when raised over the brow. Any suggestions.

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

I recently purchased my first helmet.  A 2012 Giro G10 (matte grey) (not MX).  It fits fine and is very comfortable.  I also purchased a pair of Scott "Strike" goggles which I also like very much.  I used them both for the first time this weekend.  Separately, I like them both.  Together, I am very frustrated.  With the helmet on and the goggle are over my eyes, everything is great.  Great vision, no air leaks, fogging or other issues.   When I have them up on the helmet "brow" (inside the lodge, waiting in line, in the shade etc., which I do often) they slide up and off the back.  There is no "middle ground" for them.  If they are low enough on the helmet "brow" to NOT snap back, they are solidly obscuring my field of vision.  If they are high enough to be out of my field of vision, they slide off the back.  The helmet is too smooth and slippery and the cotton goggle strap only adds to this.   

 
I have seen some goggles that have either a rubberized strap, or a thin rubber tape on the inside of the strap that appears to add some friction and looks like it might prevent this from happening, but I didn't find that fit me well.  
 
Does anyone know of any way modify the helmet (safely) or modify the goggle strap to make it so that the goggles stay raised on the brow when I need them to and not slide off the back?  If I have to get a new pair, I am sure I can exchange my goggles as they are brand new.  I just didn't want to spend a lot more money and I really like the view and fit of the Scott Strikes. 
 
Thanks...
 
P .../NH  
 

 

post #2 of 18

Welcome to Epic.  Take the helmet and goggles back to the shop where you got them and try other helmets and goggles to see if changing goggles or changing helmets solves the problem.  I have a Smith Variant, no brim, and have never had this problem with either my old Smith Knowledge or my current Bolle X-9 goggles.  I think I've seen gizmos for sale that hold the goggle strap in place on the sides of the helmet so the goggle can't do what yours is doing.  Might have been in Ski magazine.

post #3 of 18

Stop taking your goggles off so much.

post #4 of 18

Duct tape solves many problems, it's the Great Mystery Fixer. wink.gif

post #5 of 18

Get some velcro"Sticky Back" 1 inch squares sold at Home Depot & place on the helmet. They will stick to the fabric of most goggles. My grandkids goggles were always hanging off the back of their helmets until I  put those on. It works for me. 

post #6 of 18

Someone makes clips that attach to the helmet. I can't find them anywhere though searching.

I believe they were offered in the psia catalog at one time. 

The goggle retention issue is a pain. Poc is the worst.

post #7 of 18

Another vote for velcro.  When my helmet clip unscrewed and disappeared, I just got two "heavy duty" velcro circles, the HOOK part (not the fuzzy part) and stuck them on the back of the helmet.  For you, I'd just do it further forward along the normal line of the helmet strap so that the angle of the strap is closer to your face when you put the goggles up, say half way between the back of the helmet and the front edge.  That should make the strap snugger when you pull the goggles up and FOR SURE they won't fall off the back of the helmet.  (Slight chance of them sliding down and wacking your nose, I guess, depending on where exactly you put the velcro pieces.)

post #8 of 18
Thread Starter 

Hey thanks for all (well most) of the good tips.  I must admit, I thought of Velcro, but wasn't sure how I would mount it on the strap.  And then Sibhusky mentioned the HOOK part.  HFWPOH !  Of course, the hook part sticks to EVERYTHING.  It SHOULD stick to the fabric of the strap.  

 

Unfortunately, I bought the helmet online,and the goggles locally.  I am going to take both to the "goggle" store today and see if they have a more "elegant" solution.  If not, I will definitely try the Velcro idea.

 

Thanks to all for the input.

 

Also, I did a search for the little add-on thingies, but wast sure what to search for.   I tried goggle retainer, holder, latex tape, etc.   Couldn't find anything.  if anyone comes up with the device(s), please post here.  Thanks again.

 

P.../NH

post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by pjw73nh View Post

Hey thanks for all (well most) of the good tips.  I must admit, I thought of Velcro, but wasn't sure how I would mount it on the strap.  And then Sibhusky mentioned the HOOK part.  HFWPOH !  Of course, the hook part sticks to EVERYTHING.  It SHOULD stick to the fabric of the strap.  

 

Unfortunately, I bought the helmet online,and the goggles locally.  I am going to take both to the "goggle" store today and see if they have a more "elegant" solution.  If not, I will definitely try the Velcro idea.

 

Thanks to all for the input.

 

Also, I did a search for the little add-on thingies, but wast sure what to search for.   I tried goggle retainer, holder, latex tape, etc.   Couldn't find anything.  if anyone comes up with the device(s), please post here.  Thanks again.

 

P.../NH


Try here. http://www.tognar.com/ski-goggle-stop/
 

 

post #10 of 18

That looks like them! ^^ Goodness, Tognar has them? I searched all sorts of ways and came up with only hard hat clips that are totally different.

I'd use two per side - one up and one down for best hold.

 

TOG-STOP-goggle-stopper-helmet-pads__28884_zoom.jpg

http://www.tognar.com/ski-goggle-stop/

 

Goggle retention is a pet peeve, all the helmets pretty much aren't very good. We've gone backwards. My Ovo helmet was the best. You could wipe out and still have the goggles on the front if it was up.

I really don't get it, when goggles are close to $200, why helmet makers don't take it seriously.

 

edit: Actually, upon further review, it's not what I was thinking about!

Those are truly stops, not retainers for the strap. The one's I've seen allow the strap to go into the clip, and they go onto the sides of the helmet. The shape is very similar though, slighty less long and bigger slice of pizza. oh well!

edit2:

Well, I've found them! (it was the "goggle stop")

Not the exact ones I was thinking about, but a similar style! $6.95. Available in translucent also.

With two per side, they would not come off!

 

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            http://www.fallinesports.com/index.php

 


Edited by Tog - 2/7/12 at 1:22pm
post #11 of 18

Maybe goggle/helmet retention design is for actually wearing the goggle. Shocking.

post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 

Just a follow up. I was cleaning out my garage and found some left over 1.5" 3M anti-slip tape.  It is like sandpaper on one side and adhesive on the other and is meant for outdoor use.  I used a 1.5 sq inch piece on each side in the "strap path".  While I haven't tried the setup "in-vivo", it appears to work very well.  (colors compliment each other too).  I may trim the excess off after the weekend.  I will know more about the functonality after this weekend. If you don't see another update.  Assume it solved my issue.  Thanks. 

 

P .../NH 

 

(On Edit:) PS. Sorry about the size of the pics. They were only 136k combined on my system. 

 

gogg1.jpg

gogg2.jpg


Edited by pjw73nh - 2/9/12 at 8:24am
post #13 of 18

I just got the goggle stops from PSIA.  They work well.  Falline Sports has them.

 

http://www.fallinesports.com/products/

 

They come in different colors so you can coordinate with your helmet.

post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by pjw73nh View Post

Just a follow up. I was cleaning out my garage and found some left over 1.5" 3M anti-slip tape.  It is like sandpaper on one side and adhesive on the other and is meant for outdoor use.  I used a 1.5 sq inch piece on each side in the "strap path".  While I haven't tried the setup "in-vivo", it appears to work very well.  (colors compliment each other too).  I may trim the excess off after the weekend.  I will know more about the functonality after this weekend. If you don't see another update.  Assume it solved my issue.  Thanks. 

 

P .../NH 

 

(On Edit:) PS. Sorry about the size of the pics. They were only 136k combined on my system. 

 

gogg1.jpg

 

 

That's a Poc solution.

You can always just smear silicone adhesive caulk on the inside of your goggle strap and let it dry. Kind of does the same thing.

I prefer the mechanical solution.

 

post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by T-Square View Post

I just got the goggle stops from PSIA.  They work well.  Falline Sports has them.

 

http://www.fallinesports.com/products/

 

They come in different colors so you can coordinate with your helmet.


I have to say. Though I have no use. Whoever designed those did it right.

 

post #16 of 18

No use?

Dude, what about controlling your goggle tan? smile.gif

She gets it, no raccoon eyes for her:

 

alex-kuczynski-young-white-de.jpg

Eric Matheron Balay/FigaroPhoto/Contour Style by Getty Images

post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

No use?

Dude, what about controlling your goggle tan? smile.gif

She gets it, no raccoon eyes for her:

 

alex-kuczynski-young-white-de.jpg

Eric Matheron Balay/FigaroPhoto/Contour Style by Getty Images



I wear my goggle tan like a badge of honor. Though sometimes it's hard to get a good one going in Oregon.

post #18 of 18
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

 

That's a Poc solution.

You can always just smear silicone adhesive caulk on the inside of your goggle strap and let it dry. Kind of does the same thing.

I prefer the mechanical solution.

 



1. Pardon my ignorance. What's Poc.    

 

2.  The anti slip tape worked a little TOO good.  I think that after a season or two it would severely abrade the inside of the goggle strap so I made the purch and got a pair of solid blue goggle stops.   They work perfectly. 

 

If I had a spare set of goggles I could use as a "guinea pig" I would have tried the silicone trick.   I did see a few pairs of goggles that had a very thin silicone type of tape on the inside. But I am not sure it would be the same.

 

Tnx. 

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