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Lifts closing early pet peeve poll

Poll Results: When do they close the lifts at your resort?

 
  • 4% (1)
    They close the lifts 20 minutes early or earilier so that patrol can "clear the hill by closing time"
  • 96% (24)
    They close the lifts at closing time or a few minuts after, not before.
25 Total Votes  
post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

The sign says they close at 4:30, their interwebz site says they close at 4:30.  You race the chair down and get there at 4:26.  The lift is closed.  What's up with that?  Some places they close 15 minutes early!  I paid for 7.5 hours of skiing dammithopmad.gif

 

Option 3 (can't seem to edit the poll:

They close the lifts 0 to 5 minutes early 'cause they're cheap.

 

 

 

post #2 of 26
Lots of resorts, including Breck, close the lifts farther away from the base earlier than the posted general closing time, but keep the base lifts open usually slightly past.
post #3 of 26

Ghost, all things happen for a reason.  You know most accidents happen on the last run right.  If the lift is closed at 4:26pm maybe its a good thing and it was just meant to be.  You had a great day and now you get to ski another day.   Its all good.

 

In my younger days I was a liftie and I had to deal with people yelling at me if I closed the lift 1 minute before they got there.  I never did  have any sympathy for the people complaining about the lift closing too early. 

post #4 of 26
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Originally Posted by catskills View Post

Ghost, all things happen for a reason.  You know most accidents happen on the last run right.  If the lift is closed at 4:26pm maybe its a good thing and it was just meant to be.  You had a great day and now you get to ski another day.   Its all good.

 

In my younger days I was a liftie and I had to deal with people yelling at me if I closed the lift 1 minute before they got there.  I never did  have any sympathy for the people complaining about the lift closing too early. 



Well if you pay for a full day, you should get a full day! I do find that 70% of the skiers are gone by 3pm if not earlier. But then again, some show up after lunch/school/work and want to get some runs in too. I expect to ski till 4.

 

Patrol/mountain workers should do "their job" after the final whistle, which is whatever is called out @ the ticket window. No more, no less.

 

post #5 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by catskills View Post

Ghost, all things happen for a reason.  You know most accidents happen on the last run right.  If the lift is closed at 4:26pm maybe its a good thing and it was just meant to be.  You had a great day and now you get to ski another day.   Its all good.

 


Wait, if to prevent accidents happening at the end of the day is closing earlier than indicated, why not just close at noon? Or not run the lift at all? No lift, no accident!
 

 

post #6 of 26

Thats one of the few good things at the midwest hills I go to, they run until closing time, I've gotten on a few minutes after several times.  

post #7 of 26

Yesterday I skied with a friend who put her daughter in the day-care. When dropping off, they reminded us to be sure to pick her up at 4:45. My friend said, "Your web-site and your ads say day-care closes at 5:00p.m."  The woman told him that they CLOSE at 5:00, so the child had to be picked up at 4:45. 

 

post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by catskills View Post

Ghost, all things happen for a reason.  You know most accidents happen on the last run right.  If the lift is closed at 4:26pm maybe its a good thing and it was just meant to be.  You had a great day and now you get to ski another day.   Its all good.

 

In my younger days I was a liftie and I had to deal with people yelling at me if I closed the lift 1 minute before they got there.  I never did  have any sympathy for the people complaining about the lift closing too early. 



LOL

I did give the lifies a hard time,  I was actually in quite good humour and just having fun with thembiggrin.gif, but they probably thought I was really upset.redface.gif

post #9 of 26

I have no problem with distant lifts closing earlier, provided they are clearly marked (and most are).

I used to see lifts with "bartender clocks" set a few minutes fast, but not so much anymore -- maybe a side effect of all the kids using their phones as watches?  They know what time it is, to within a few seconds.

 

I still remember one last run at one of the upper lifts at Park City where I stopped at the bypass turn off to see if the lift was still open.  The liftee saw me up there and made a big show of laboriously dragging the heavy closed rope across the opening, letting me get one last run.

post #10 of 26

On the other hand, at Taos they say the shuttles to the parking lot till 5 pm.  I got on at 4:45 as the dispatcher was loudly yelling "last shuttle".  Maybe it was a fake, but if I was there at 4:59 and there were no more shuttles, I'd be pissed.

post #11 of 26

Lifts are usually open till the time stated or just past.  It's the early closing runs (gated area's), that tend to close before the posted time.  They are sometimes harder to get to off the lifts, so if the patrol is there 15min early he/she will close it anyways, if you catch them while they close they usually let you go.  Lifts should stay open to the time stated though...most people do call it quits by 3pm but i like to ski till closing and if you time it right you can get a really good long last run.

post #12 of 26

Most of the lifts I've seen that service trails without base lodge access have signs telling people that the lift closes earlier than the resort for obvious reasons.  I can recall a time or two where the resorts tried to shut the remaining main lift down a few minutes early when nobody was in the corral.  When that happens, and you ski up to a roped off corral, just remind the dude that you gave him that cash and he'll give you one more run.

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post #13 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by catskills View Post

Ghost, all things happen for a reason.  You know most accidents happen on the last run right.  If the lift is closed at 4:26pm maybe its a good thing and it was just meant to be.  You had a great day and now you get to ski another day.   Its all good.

 

In my younger days I was a liftie and I had to deal with people yelling at me if I closed the lift 1 minute before they got there.  I never did  have any sympathy for the people complaining about the lift closing too early. 



+1

 

And, I've seen Frozen. I know what happens when you bitch and moan to get in the last run of the day. biggrin.gif

 

post #14 of 26

Doh! Crgildart, you beat me to it!!

post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post


Wait, if to prevent accidents happening at the end of the day is closing earlier than indicated, why not just close at noon? Or not run the lift at all? No lift, no accident!
 

 


Another point is why not just list the time as 4:20 or 4:25 then?

 

I've never really experienced this issue and probably wouldn't care under most circumstances. But, if I were paying a lot of money for ski trip or a long day trip, it might irritate me. One question: What clock were you going by? Maybe your watch was off of the resort's time. Also I've seen resorts with their clocks out of sync, so maybe one said 4:30? It's so close, it could be just a matter of someone jumping the gun or reading an off clock.

 

post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by huhh View Post

 ......if you catch them while they close they usually let you go.  


I was skiing down the ridge above our North Bowl the other day and saw Patrol closing gates into the bowl.  I came alongside him, pointed at the next gate with my pole, and asked him if I could hit  it before he closed it.

He replied, "If you can beat me there, you can!"  I thought, "Crud," but he very clearly allowed me to beat him to the gate, and I got in a really nice last run of the day....all to myself.  smile.gif

The lifts here seem to stay open to the last minute, and they often will let you sneak on while closing up.

post #17 of 26

Last week I went to hop on the chair at 3:55 (closing is 4) to help patrol out with sweep at the end of the day. Lifties told me they had already called last chair, but the closing ropes weren't up and it wasn't closing time yet. Called the top operator told him I was going to be last chair, waited for a couple more guys headed for their last run to load the lift, then loaded at about 3:58 when no other patrons were in sight. Drives me nuts when lifties dont wait the last five minutes just because they want to get out of there. I liftied last year, and yes I was usually ready for the day to end before 4, but if the mountain closes at 4, then the lifts run till 4. Our one lift that doesn't have lodge access closes at 3:30 to give the patrollers time to sweep that side of the mountain, then sweep the front side. Closing time is posted on the white board by that lift and in the area maps. If a main lift was closing 30 minutes before "closing time" I wouldn't exactly be happy...

post #18 of 26

I think the fact that you are arguing 4 minutes is moronic.

post #19 of 26

The sign says "This lift closes at 3:30". Patrol stands there with a watch and gets on for sweep at 3:30 like clockwork. Not before or after, at. The advertised closing time is 3:30, but lift closings are staggered, based on the time of year. The upper mountain closes at 3:00, 3:15 or 3:30, depending on the amount of sunlight available, but it's always posted on the lift each morning. The last lift actually closes at 3:45 or 4:00. Always promptly.

post #20 of 26

That's one reason I like skiing at Stevens.  LIfts close at 10pm.  Problem solved, I'm usually done by then.

 

OK, so the backside lifts close at 3:15pm, in theory.  In reality, they rope off the backside runs around 3:15-ish, and make sure they keep lifts running until everybody's skied down, and patrol does a pretty throrough sweep.   I think yesterday we snuck in one last run right after 3:15 and it was after 3:30 by the time we'd skied down and taken the lift back to the top.    Then, we still had a few more hours of skiing.  

 

I'm spoiled and priveledge, I know it.  But I consider it fair compensation for skiing Cascade Concrete and having to drive 1 1/2 to 2 hours to get there.

 

 

 

 

post #21 of 26

HERE, at least, they close the TRAIL that goes to the lift in the back at the time they say the LIFT closes.  Theoretically, they then sweep, so it's unlikely that you'll find yourself stranded.  The big secret here is that one lift actually closes 20 minutes or more AFTER its official (on the map) close time.  The reason is there are a multitude of ways down into the basin it services off the main lift, which does in fact close at 4. But, given the huge number of ways to then depart that lift and end up at this other lift out of the basin, they allow the "receiving lift" to stay open longer than posted.  It's a great way to get an "extra" ride at the end of the day.

 

The lifties HAVE jokingly pretended to close it on me, and told me I skied past closed signs and I'm SOL, but since I knew better, I just laughed.  I know that unless patrol passes you on the groomed run, you're fine.  And they won't pass you, they'll trail behind you, herding you down the hill.  One thing I DO NOT DO is go off the groomed run into the other areas because patrol could easily miss you and there is no cell phone service down there.  Theoretically there is a phone, but I wouldn't trust it and the way out is so tough and long, someone stranded would be in big trouble.  

post #22 of 26

This topic takes on a whole different perspective when the lodge and parking lot are on the TOP of the mountain instead of the bottom!

post #23 of 26


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

The sign says they close at 4:30, their interwebz site says they close at 4:30.  You race the chair down and get there at 4:26.  The lift is closed.

You're in Italy??

 


 

 

post #24 of 26

You know despite your arguments for linguistic exactness, i don't imagine that you'd have been too happy had you gotten on the lift at 4:26 and it had shut down at 4:30 like it is advertised to do. wink.gif

post #25 of 26

I was in Venice and went to the Traghetto stop, which is a gondola rowed by a couple guys that takes you across the Grand Canal. You stand up and they row you across, then they bring people back the other way. This goes on all day. The sign says they close at 16:00 I think it was. So, I get there and it's 3:40. There's a woman in front of me, and she's in a conversation with the gondolier. In my limited Italian I can tell what they're saying.

gondolier: "We're closed!"

woman:     "You close at four!"

gondolier looks at his watch, and with total sincere justification says "It's 3:40!"

- that was the last word

post #26 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcusBrody View Post

You know despite your arguments for linguistic exactness, i don't imagine that you'd have been too happy had you gotten on the lift at 4:26 and it had shut down at 4:30 like it is advertised to do. wink.gif

 

ROFLMAO  -  Got to remember that one. 

 

Yeah sure you can get on but management tells us to stop this lift at 4:30pm sharp even if you are still on the lift.   Then smile with an evil laugh.  That would confuse the hell out of most customers.   eek.gif 

 

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