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post #31 of 60
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Originally Posted by Eagles Pdx View Post

 


It does provide the Google Earth file, email it to yourself.

 

That will show the overlay on the satellite view of the mountain and includes a "Preview" video file that takes you on your ski runs on the mountain.


Yes, it does have the KMZ file which you can use in Google Earth, but that isn't quite the same thing as integrating a resort trail map into the app, so that your 'run' data would show that your second run of the day was on "Andy's Encore" at Copper Mountain, rather than just 'Run 2'.  I have taken the GPX output and uploaded it to my cycling site: RidewithGPS.com, and that works quite well too.  On the map display on RidewithGPS.com site, the lifts at Copper are displayed, but the trail names are not.  Running the KMZ file in preview on Google Earth feels a bit like looking at a NASA flyover animation of some strange planet.  Probably works better when you are in some city where their photographers had some street scenes.

 

The Ski Tracks web site lists their accuracy for most of their data to +/- 5% which I find as reasonable for an app of this nature.

post #32 of 60

I've tried many tracking Apps and SkiTracks is certainly one of the best.  The only downside is it doesn't have "Resort Map integration" which you describe.  The .kmz is a "generic" map file.  For integrated resort run data, you'd need to go with SatSki but its resorts are strictly limited to larger destination resorts.  If yours is one of them, however, it's a great app for a few bucks.

post #33 of 60
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I've tried many tracking Apps and SkiTracks is certainly one of the best.  The only downside is it doesn't have "Resort Map integration" which you describe.  The .kmz is a "generic" map file.  For integrated resort run data, you'd need to go with SatSki but its resorts are strictly limited to larger destination resorts.  If yours is one of them, however, it's a great app for a few bucks.

 

SatSki seems to have checked out.  I have their GPS device and iPhone app and was a big fan but they seem to have disappeared. Their Facebook page where they used to answer questions is now something with LuvTheSnow.com.  They were supposed to have a Mac viewer app a couple years ago but that never happened.  It's like development and support just stopped.

 

Of course what they had was nice and did provide the resort overlay.  It looks like it will still do that.  I might crank up the iPhone app and see what it does.

 

I moved on to SkiTracks since SatSki went dark and, other than the resort overlay, SkiTracks seemed a better program.

post #34 of 60

Ah, good point.  I forgot about that.  I got the SatSki app awhile ago, and when I mentioned it to my wife recently for her iPhone 5, she said she couldn't find it.  SkiTracks definitely gets the nod.  

 

The other options is to see if a particular mountain has their own app.  Many of the larger resorts do, but for those that don't we're out of luck.

 

Perhaps in the not too distant future, the features/abilities we want will mesh, and it'll be commonplace.  Not yet though, it seems.

post #35 of 60

This app is also for Android as well. I used it over a trip two weeks ago and it delivered!  Didnt drain my battery all that much either, and the battery on my Razr generally sucks.  If I just turned data and wifi off and kept only the GPS on, I used it all day and still had a good 30-40% battery life left when we left. We averaged 4.5-5h of ski time for three days. Very cool program, I will definately keep using it

post #36 of 60
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This app is also for Android as well. I used it over a trip two weeks ago and it delivered!  Didnt drain my battery all that much either, and the battery on my Razr generally sucks.  If I just turned data and wifi off and kept only the GPS on, I used it all day and still had a good 30-40% battery life left when we left. We averaged 4.5-5h of ski time for three days. Very cool program, I will definately keep using it

 

On the battery, I use a Mophie which is a combo case and battery.  I put an InvisibleShield on the screen for added protection.  Egrips on the Mophie case for grip with gloves on.  Lots of battery for skiing and fishing apps many of which use GPS. 

post #37 of 60
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On the battery, I use a Mophie which is a combo case and battery.  I put an InvisibleShield on the screen for added protection.  Egrips on the Mophie case for grip with gloves on.  Lots of battery for skiing and fishing apps many of which use GPS. 

 

I wish there was a battery pack like that Mophie for my Razr. I bought it last Jan like 3 weeks before the big battery Razr Max came out. It gets by though, at long as I keep an eye on which services are running.

 

Also along these lines the Ski Tracks has an option to suspend recording at a set battery level. I had mine set to shut down at 30% one day I was on the slopes when I started with all data active. Didnt notice the battery drain until lunch.... But the app shut down when it reached that level and I had enough juice to last until I got back to the car.

post #38 of 60
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Also along these lines the Ski Tracks has an option to suspend recording at a set battery level. I had mine set to shut down at 30% one day I was on the slopes when I started with all data active. Didnt notice the battery drain until lunch.... But the app shut down when it reached that level and I had enough juice to last until I got back to the car.

I'd rather have the phone go belly up vs. lose the recording of part of my day.

 

Garcon! Hold my calls!  I've go voice mail if someone calls while I'm on the slope and my phone is "off".

 

If you've got battery issues, shut everything down, cell network, Wifi, Bluetooth and preserve the battery.

post #39 of 60

No, see thats my point. I accidentally didnt shut everything down and it drained the battery. With all services other than GPS off, it can last a full day 5+ hrs with no problem. Its not the program's fault Im a dummy and forgot to shut off data that one day. I even got most of my recording with it on too, only missed maybe the last 1/4 of a  and it was still over 4 hr

post #40 of 60

There is lots of chat here about integrating the app with resort info. The NAVIONICS SKI app does exactly that. it will give you the names of the lifts and runs you went up and you can even get directions down a hill by run type (Green, blue, Black) to a given spot that you pick on the resort map. Not to mention has weather forecasts from local weather stations. Plus many other features.

post #41 of 60
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There is lots of chat here about integrating the app with resort info. The NAVIONICS SKI app does exactly that. it will give you the names of the lifts and runs you went up and you can even get directions down a hill by run type (Green, blue, Black) to a given spot that you pick on the resort map. Not to mention has weather forecasts from local weather stations. Plus many other features.

 

Great - can't wait until this technology lets people pay even LESS attention to their surroundings while skiing 

 

/Luddite

 

I love technology, but not when it gets in the way of common sense, which seems to be the prevailing trend these days!

 

/Grumpy old man

post #42 of 60

Aragon, you still need to look for the names of the runs and make the turn safely onto the hill. At least your not guessing looking at scrunched up ski map

post #43 of 60

Anyone know the difference between Ski Tracks and Ski Tracks Lite?  Googled around but couldn't find anything other than Lite is free.

post #44 of 60

IIRC,  The lite version only works for a limited number of runs.  Basically it works enough for you to decide if you want to buy it.

post #45 of 60
I am a new skier, and fairly cautious. I've just begun skiing blues at Berkshire East.

Some friends (lifelong skiers, former racers) downloaded Ski Tracks and started competing for MPH. For laughs, I downloaded it and recorded this today:



I'm thinking, really? 50 mph? And my former racer friend clocked sixty-something at Killington? THAT I believe.

Can these numbers be accurate? I'm not that good! I did ski faster than usual, and of course 50 mph was the peak, with the average at 11.3. But still.
post #46 of 60
I suppose there could have been a moment or two when I was going that fast. It just seems so unlikely! Oh, and there's this:


Edited by newboots - 3/13/17 at 7:33pm
post #47 of 60
Thread Starter 

I use Ski Tracks and I think it is accurate within about 5 mph in either direction barring an occasional exception (82 mph once, and no, it wasn't the last run of the day, but I'm still sure I didn't get anywhere near 82 mph).

Exceptions aside, it seems to be pretty steady over time. I've used this app more to keep track of runs, vertical and where I skied than speed, though. I have lots of friends that ski fast, but only a few that ski well. At the end of the day it's the quality of the turns that I try to take away. 

Cheers,

Bob             :beercheer:

post #48 of 60

Thanks, Bob!  Speed isn't my goal; I just drank the Kool-Aid and downloaded, figuring I'd just clock it for the fun of it.

 

As I think back on it, I skied very differently with the app running than I ever do.  I wanted to see how fast I could go, and abandoning my usual caution and (trying to make) lovely turns, I headed straight down most of the trails.  At Berkshire East this is possible because it's virtually never crowded, and this was especially so in the extreme cold we had this weekend.  And I didn't fall.  But that doesn't make it a good idea.  I have far too much to learn, and I'm much too old to ski at this speed without the skill to match.  I'm not going to use Skitracks, for now. It is a little awesome to know I could do it, but I'm not going to go that route!

 

I always thought the line about skiing more dangerously when you wore a helmet was BS.  I just wear a helmet and wouldn't consider skiing without.  But after my day with Skitracks, I can imagine others taking more risks in a helmet. 

 

Anne

post #49 of 60

Anne, I really doubt you have skied at 50mph, that is VERY fast.

 

I used SkiTracks at Wachusett a couple of weeks ago and literally flew down one of the trails.  It clocked us at 45.2mph, which is possible, but probably it was closer to 40.

 

To get a good speed on a sloped surface a GPS device requires connecting to at least 3 satellites to triangulate speed.  On the ground it's accurate.  I've used it in my car and it matches the speedometer.  On a slope I really doubt it, particularly in the netherlands of Western Mass.

 

In any case I'm glad you're feeling confident enough to ski fast!

post #50 of 60

I've also found Ski Tracks to be accurate on average... but it definitely will produce some blips and errors. I had it show me at 30 MPH as I was riding a lift once.

 

And @newboots , I've never hit 50 MPH on mine, even when trying to go fast. Mid-40's is about the most I get making big shallow turns (I've never really straight lined a run to try to go faster).

post #51 of 60

I have been using Ski-Tracks for 3.5 seasons now so well over 100 days.  With that said it seems to do some wonky stuff on the first run of the day when we are at Stratton (we ski there 95% of the time).  I usually get off the mid mountain lift and do a semi traverse to the upper mountain lift.  There is a lot of left/right across the mountain to get to the upper mountain lift and I wonder if that messes with it.  I will very often do the "traverse" and when I get to the upper mountain lift I will text friends to see where they are and notice that Ski-Tracks says I hit 40+ MPH which I think is a bit optimistic...maybe not but it seems that way to me. Other then that glitch it seem fairly accurate to me just because the numbers are consistent through out the day as well as day to day.

 

I know that it may not be 100% accurate but it is fun to see how much vertical you get in on a particular day and what you V-Max is.  

 

Curious what you guys average.  My absolute V-Max is 72.2MPH but that was a full on assault at achieving a high speed in pretty perfect conditions but on average I am usually in the low to mid 60's when conditions warrant.  As for vertical I consider a 22-24K foot day a decent day but a couple weeks ago the little man and I skied on a super good Friday and we got in 34K feet.....He was asleep by 7PM and I was not far behind him.....it was a great day.

 

Cheers,

Jim

post #52 of 60
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Curious what you guys average.  

 

I'm an intermediate skier. And ~18K is a good day for me, and my usual top speed is in the low 40's or upper 30's if conditions aren't as smooth.

 

Anything over 20K is a pretty big day for me... I think my max ever might have been about 24K.  

post #53 of 60
Has anyone used Ski pro? I will be trying it out this week in Vail and Breck
post #54 of 60
Ski pro
post #55 of 60
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Originally Posted by LJH01 View Post
 

Curious what you guys average.  

 

I'm an intermediate skier. And ~18K is a good day for me, and my usual top speed is in the low 40's or upper 30's if conditions aren't as smooth.

 

Anything over 20K is a pretty big day for me... I think my max ever might have been about 24K.  

 

I'm a borderline expert skier and these numbers are similar to mine.  Of course a lot of my days are just mornings or full days with teaching.

post #56 of 60

I don't like that ski tracks uses your location at all times, even if you're not using the app.  That drains the battery, and for paranoid people, it's an invasion of privacy.  They should update the app to only use your location while in use.

 

I use slopes instead.  i found it's just as good, and when having both apps running i found slopes gave more accurate numbers.  ski tracks was inflating the speed badly when the gps signal was lower, but slopes did not.

post #57 of 60
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I don't like that ski tracks uses your location at all times, even if you're not using the app.  That drains the battery, and for paranoid people, it's an invasion of privacy.  They should update the app to only use your location while in use.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Ski Tracks doesn't run in the background on my phone, and I turn location services off when I'm not using a GPS app. What is it doing on your phone? Maybe it can be turned off?

post #58 of 60

@SkiMangoJazz  @dbostedo

 

Thanks, everybody, for the feedback. Very helpful! I doubted that number, as you know, and while I enjoyed going fast on empty trails, I do plan to slow down again and work on my skills. 

 

I'm sure there are factors in calculating speed that influence these numbers, as SMJ points out.  I'm a little relieved that I probably haven't reached the Massachusetts speed limit for straight secondary roads! 

post #59 of 60
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I'm not sure what you mean by that. Ski Tracks doesn't run in the background on my phone, and I turn location services off when I'm not using a GPS app. What is it doing on your phone? Maybe it can be turned off?

 

Yeah, Trace Snow and Ski Tracks are both that way.  A message pops up asking to track you all the time.  Trace Snow doesn't even give you another option, but with Ski Tracks at least you can set it to only be while using the app from the privacy menu on the phone.

 

post #60 of 60
I set Ski Tracks to not allow location when it wasn't being used, but a few days later I got a message that the location function was on. Shut it off in Settings.
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