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Poll Results: Custom Ski Boots from Sure Foot -- worth it for people with imperfect feet and bodies, or crazy expense for the non serious skiier?

Poll expired: Feb 29, 2012  
  • 35% (24)
    Worth it baby...changed my life!
  • 7% (5)
    So not worth it -- I or my friend did it and it was a disaster!
  • 56% (38)
    Don't know, but I'm curious myself.
67 Total Votes  
post #91 of 118


 

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This is not the thread where we explain everything about life. That's what search engines are for - translating American to English. Goodness, the other way is tough.
 

 

 


It's just that my 1st base is normally a black eye because I try and steam straight in for a home run

 

 

post #92 of 118
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Originally Posted by rossymcg View Post


why do you run bare foot? have you had any injuries from this? the thought of it give me pain
 



 


Why do I run barefoot - good question!! I thought barefoot running was ridiculous at one point, then came full circle.  As a result of trying to learn to run correctly, I've learned that traditional "running shoes" support a way of running that is completely unnatural - landing on your heel and relying on "cushion" in the shoe to absorb the impact. 

 

Running correctly involves landing under your body's center of gravity, hitting forefoot first (but quickly dropping down to your heel).  A thick heel gets in the way, so I went to minimal shoes - then totally barefoot.  Running correctly barefoot actually has been shown to reduce impact by 50% over heel striking in padded running shoes.  Personally, I do it because it feels great, my feet get stronger, I can balance better, and I ran run smoother and farther. Also, you feet instantly tell you if your form is bad.  If you're pushing off too hard, overstriding, or any other multitude of errors you'll feel it in your soles and stop doing it.

 

It's hard to convince people of just how smooth you can run barefoot, even on pavement.  My mom even doesn't believe me.  I hear comments from people along the street too as I run, this weekend I passed a couple of ladies with a few small kids and I heard one of the kids say "Mommy, that guy's barefoot!!!" Then I could hear the two women talk between themselves about how they couldn't imagine that it could be comfortable at all. LOL.  Oh well.

 

If anybody is really interested I go to a forum here http://www.runnersworld.com/community/forums/runner-communities/barefoot-running and Barefoot Ken Bob's web site is a great resource http://barefootrunning.com/.

 

Oh forgot to add: I'm fairly new to this, but the only "injuries" I've had have been some blisters at the beginning.  I've been running on a treadmill all winter, just got outside this last weekend (day after skiing) and it was cold enough that my feet got numb on the bottom at one point! Not so fun, but that's about the worst of it so far.

 

Greg


Edited by SuperGreg - 2/6/12 at 12:42pm
post #93 of 118

Greg you have me  interested, im going to look at a bit of bumf about bf running, someone mentioned chi running to me before, im thinking this is along those lines, some of what youve said makes complete sense,

ive struggled with shin splints in the past and at this moment achillies tendonits, anything has to be worth a go

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Why do I run barefoot - good question!! I thought barefoot running was ridiculous at one point, then came full circle.  As a result of trying to learn to run correctly, I've learned that traditional "running shoes" support a way of running that is completely unnatural - landing on your heel and relying on "cushion" in the shoe to absorb the impact. 

 

Running correctly involves landing under your body's center of gravity, hitting forefoot first (but quickly dropping down to your heel).  A thick heel gets in the way, so I went to minimal shoes - then totally barefoot.  Running correctly barefoot actually has been shown to reduce impact by 50% over heel striking in padded running shoes.  Personally, I do it because it feels great, my feet get stronger, I can balance better, and I ran run smoother and farther. Also, you feet instantly tell you if your form is bad.  If you're pushing off too hard, overstriding, or any other multitude of errors you'll feel it in your soles and stop doing it.

 

It's hard to convince people of just how smooth you can run barefoot, even on pavement.  My mom even doesn't believe me.  I hear comments from people along the street too as I run, this weekend I passed a couple of ladies with a few small kids and I heard one of the kids say "Mommy, that guy's barefoot!!!" Then I could hear the two women talk between themselves about how they couldn't imagine that it could be comfortable at all. LOL.  Oh well.

 

If anybody is really interested I go to a forum here http://www.runnersworld.com/community/forums/runner-communities/barefoot-running and Barefoot Ken Bob's web site is a great resource http://barefootrunning.com/.

 

Oh forgot to add: I'm fairly new to this, but the only "injuries" I've had have been some blisters at the beginning.  I've been running on a treadmill all winter, just got outside this last weekend (day after skiing) and it was cold enough that my feet got numb on the bottom at one point! Not so fun, but that's about the worst of it so far.

 

Greg



 

post #94 of 118

The foot surgeon doing my custom orthodics said he does treats a lot of bare foot running injuries. I asked him because I wanted those groovy toe shoes they sell at REI.

post #95 of 118
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Originally Posted by rossymcg View Post


Greg you have me  interested, im going to look at a bit of bumf about bf running, someone mentioned chi running to me before, im thinking this is along those lines, some of what youve said makes complete sense,

ive struggled with shin splints in the past and at this moment achillies tendonits, anything has to be worth a go


 



Ah, yes chi running and also Pose teach similar methods of running (landing under center of gravity, gentle landing on forefoot, etc).  I like barefoot because it forces you to commit to correct form more, but you can still do it in shoes.  The form really helps with issues such as shin splints, etc.

 

If you're really interested, besides the sites I listed earlier I would *highly* recommend this book by Barefoot Ken Bob: http://www.amazon.com/Barefoot-Running-Step-Shoeless-Technique/dp/1592334652/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1328639639&sr=1-1.

 

Best of luck!

post #96 of 118

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Originally Posted by MoeLarryCheese View Post

The foot surgeon doing my custom orthodics said he does treats a lot of bare foot running injuries. I asked him because I wanted those groovy toe shoes they sell at REI.


You don't need to run to wear VFFs.  I always take a pair backpacking because they're comfy around camp, are useful for wade fishing and also for wet stream crossing.  They're extremely light and after a stream crossing I just clip them on the outside of my pack and they're dry in about an hour.  They're also good for slacklining.  I have a pair a KSOs and a pair of Bikilas and I plan to get a pair of Komodo Sports this spring.

 

post #97 of 118

 

 

Article on running mechanics -- new research on heel-strikers vs. forefoot strikers:  http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/why-runners-get-injured/

post #98 of 118

The thread has drifted, but a really interesting book on barefoot running is "Born to Run" by Christopher McDougall.  I've probably run 100 feet in the last 20 years, yet I found this book to be extremely readable, a compelling story, and quite thought provoking.  It's kind of like the Edge of Never as for it's ability to engage the reader in a story.

 

Mike

post #99 of 118

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Originally Posted by lakespapa View Post

Article on running mechanics -- new research on heel-strikers vs. forefoot strikers:  http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/why-runners-get-injured/

 

As a long time heel striker, that might explain why I used to be injured so much when I ran on a consistent basis, about 40-70 miles/week, and maybe why I ruptured an Achilles tendon three years ago while out for a run.  Too bad that information wasn't around 35 years ago.

 

post #100 of 118

How many Gnar points do you get for running a mile in ski boots?

Additional for rentals.  Less for custom. So there's a reason not to get "custom" boots.

 

post #101 of 118
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Originally Posted by MoeLarryCheese View Post

The foot surgeon doing my custom orthodics said he does treats a lot of bare foot running injuries. I asked him because I wanted those groovy toe shoes they sell at REI.



Yeah, unfortunately many people do "too much too soon", and wearing a shoe like the VFFs instead of going completely barefoot exacerbates the problem.  Most recommendations have you follow a plan to transition to barefooting over about 4+ weeks to get your feet used to it, and then start building up mileage.

post #102 of 118

What about glass and nails on the road? and you know....those punji stick traps.

Not to mention gum, tires, old flares, little stones that could be witches...

post #103 of 118

 

 

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You don't need to run to wear VFFs.  I always take a pair backpacking because they're comfy around camp, are useful for wade fishing and also for wet stream crossing.  They're extremely light and after a stream crossing I just clip them on the outside of my pack and they're dry in about an hour.  They're also good for slacklining.  I have a pair a KSOs and a pair of Bikilas and I plan to get a pair of Komodo Sports this spring.

 

Yeah, they sound good for stream crossings. I use the river sock ones.

 

post #104 of 118

Wow.....this is the most hijacked/off topic tread i've ever seen!

post #105 of 118

Come on...the most?

 

 

Beware the Moon skulls wallpaper in green with suited man smoking

post #106 of 118

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Wow.....this is the most hijacked/off topic tread i've ever seen!

 

Maybe the most off-topic you've seen but there have been worse.  But, why not, the OP was either shilling for Sure Foot or a troll.  We might as well have a little fun.

post #107 of 118

I don't think the op was really either. I think she got a little put off by how much people got into it and somewhat attacked her. I'll inlclude myself in that. The language of the title and the poll sort of created that context. It may have been a legit inquiry.

post #108 of 118

Has anyone else noticed that the OP seems to have disappeared from this thread? No posts since the first page.

post #109 of 118

Move along folks. Nothing to see here. . . 

post #110 of 118
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I don't think the op was really either. I think she got a little put off by how much people got into it and somewhat attacked her. I'll inlclude myself in that. The language of the title and the poll sort of created that context. It may have been a legit inquiry.



poor lady felt pushed out by the epic bullies, she'll probably suffer with sore feet for the rest of her skiing life because we stole her thread and bullied her away

post #111 of 118
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poor lady felt pushed out by the epic bullies, she'll probably suffer with sore feet for the rest of her skiing life because we stole her thread and bullied her away



Exactly.  Looks like she joined Epic just to ask this question.  All of her posts were in this thread.  At one point she commented that the posts were sounding a little hostile.  Great job, guys.

post #112 of 118
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Exactly.  Looks like she joined Epic just to ask this question.  All of her posts were in this thread.  At one point she commented that the posts were sounding a little hostile.  Great job, guys.


It did seem that she hoped we'd tell her that good boot fitting was a scam.  She thought so herself.  It's like walking into a Newt rally and asking pointed questions about the ex-wives.

 

post #113 of 118
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Exactly.  Looks like she joined Epic just to ask this question.  All of her posts were in this thread.  At one point she commented that the posts were sounding a little hostile.  Great job, guys.


Oh, c'mon, there are way, way too many women on this site as it is now.  What this site desperately needs is more middle-aged(ish) dudes of varying degrees of grumpiness, so running her off was indeed a "great job."  rolleyes.gif

 

At least she didn't ask or declare anything about helmet use, which would likely have doomed her to years of therapy....

 

Anyhoo, on a more chipper note, I must point out that this is my 100th post on Epic, and as a Texan would almost certainly exclaim at the moment of such a milestone......

YEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAWWWW!!!

I just KNEW those countless hours huddled over that second-hand computer in my Mommy's darkened basement would eventually pay off - YES!  yahoo.gif

Sooooo, do I win a free toaster or something?

 

post #114 of 118
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Oh, c'mon, there are way, way too many women on this site as it is now.  What this site desperately needs is more middle-aged(ish) dudes of varying degrees of grumpiness, so running her off was indeed a "great job."  rolleyes.gif

 

At least she didn't ask or declare anything about helmet use, which would likely have doomed her to years of therapy....

 

Anyhoo, on a more chipper note, I must point out that this is my 100th post on Epic, and as a Texan would almost certainly exclaim at the moment of such a milestone......

YEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAWWWW!!!

I just KNEW those countless hours huddled over that second-hand computer in my Mommy's darkened basement would eventually pay off - YES!  yahoo.gif

Sooooo, do I win a free toaster or something?

 



 

You've not been contacted by trekchick yet? When I hit 100 big ones she cracked on to me, rumour has it that's the prize, 

post #115 of 118

 

 

Ok, this is the make & model, the archetypical example, the template of The Drifted Thread.  AND it's a Merge.  Or Converge.

post #116 of 118
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You've not been contacted by trekchick yet? When I hit 100 big ones she cracked on to me, rumour has it that's the prize, 

You're welcome!biggrin.gif
 

 

post #117 of 118

Trek, you going for the Everest count this year?

After that, I don't know what the next milestone is. The Mariana Trench?

As for this thread, well you can read it even if you don't post

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Women Without Bones --

The Amazon sheltered many tribes of people from the civilized world. Among them were the primitive Brazilian river dwellers and the Chinese displaced Mud-standers. But perhaps the most frightening tribe known along the Amazon was the Women Without Bones. The Women Without Bones (Humanus De Filet) had been practically disregarded by ethnologists because of their poor posture: who wanted to spend three years studying a bunch of slouchers? But today their curious habits have attracted many American Nutty-Putty hobbyists into their mysterious wilderness. We can look forward to the day scientists will be able to study the Women Without Bones and answer such questions as "What time is it?" and "How come no bones?"
Cruel Shoes, Steve Martin

 

post #118 of 118

wildcat hank - Do you know what shop in either Bethel or Portland this Shawn works at?

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