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post #1 of 11
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Hi All -

First post to this forum - please be kind :)

I just moved back to the northeast from a multi-year stint in North Carolina that saw a significant reduction in my number of on snow days.  Given the low number of days, I made it through those on my old Atomic Beta Ride 11's during trips to the family house in Vermont and on various rentals during the occasional trip out west.  Now that I'm back, looking at a significant increase in number of days, I've decided a gear overhaul was in order.
 

I've taken care of boots, as well as a primary set of ski's for what'll account for 99% of my days: front side Vermont carving.  I'm looking to pair these with a second set and wanted to solicit some suggestions.

 

In theory I'm looking for a "powder" ski - but really an east coast powder ski, that would also function more all mountain for the one or two trips out west we take.  When I say "east coast powder", I'm talking to what we realistically see in the east - we rarely get anything close do what would be defined as deep out west - catching a 15" day is an epic, once every few years thing.  So something to pull out on 4-12" days out here when the carver's are inappropriate, and to travel with that is a little more versatile than the front side carver I'll put most days on.  In the event of something truly epic, either here or out west, I'd just rent a dedicated pair of powder ski's.

 

A few things about me: 5' 8", 165, 34yo, skiing for 29 years give or take

Former expert (two years out from knee surgery - not as aggressive as I used to be) - given surgery I'm now mostly an in bounds guy.

I also have to say I don't have a lot of opinions about feel - I tend to adjust pretty quickly to whatever I'm skiing.

 

Given the number of days this pair will see - I was hoping to pick something up at the end of the season cheap.  Somethings that have been suggested:

Rossignal S3's

DPS Wailer 99's (probably out given cost and likelihood of finding at a discount).

Volkl Bridge or Katana

 

Just looking for some opinions on things I might keep an eye out for to snag.

Thanks

v

post #2 of 11

Movement Source. An amazing ski.  Will do great on anything except East Coast ice but you've already got the carvers for that.  Blows thorough crud, very good in powder, very light and easy to handle in the bumps and does just fine on the groomers.

post #3 of 11

See if you can demo some Nordica Steadfasts, 90mm waist, or Nordica Hell and Back, 100mm waist.  These are lightweight due to no metal, have camber and early rise.  I've skied the Steadfasts and was astounded at how well they carve.  They also handled quite nicely in the bumps and in the trees where the snow varied from maybe 12" to close to 30".  I'm looking to buy a pair of these myself this season.

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See if you can demo some Nordica Steadfasts, 90mm waist, or Nordica Hell and Back, 100mm waist.  These are lightweight due to no metal, have camber and early rise.  I've skied the Steadfasts and was astounded at how well they carve.  They also handled quite nicely in the bumps and in the trees where the snow varied from maybe 12" to close to 30".  I'm looking to buy a pair of these myself this season.



I have a pair of Steadfasts in 178 with Salomon binders for sale.  Cheap.  Skied 3 days.  Great ski.  I just underestimated the effect of the early rise, and they ski too short for me!

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post #6 of 11

I would also add the Blizzard Bushwackers and Bonafides to the list. The Bones might be a better choice for an all mountain ski for when you're out West and would definitely have enough float for most of your east coast powder needs. The Bushwackers are a little softer, though, and you might like those given your size and post-op status.

 

Out of curiosity, in the Völkl line, when the Bridge and the Katana? Those are two pretty different skis and a big jump between the two. The Katana is a pretty fat ski and would be geared more towards powder than all mountain. Bridge fits the all mountain a bit more, IMHO . . .

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Hi All -

Thanks for the recommendations.

 

From the Moment website it doesn't look the Source's are current in the line.  I had wondered about the PBJ's - unfortunately, at least where I'm skiing, brands like Momen'ts are a little harder to come by.

 

RE: the Volkyls - a mistype on my part - should have been the Mantra and Bridge.  Two that have been thrown my way in casual discussions.

 

RE: Blizzards: a local shop at Stratton that I trust had suggested the Bonafides.  Jonathan Ellsworth over at Blister Gear had said there were options that performed better in powder - his vote in the 100mm range would be the DPS Wailer 99 or one of the Rossi's (either the S3's or Scimitar) - but they are a ski with an incredibly strong following and I'm sure the width alone will have enough powder chop for my needs - they are on the short list.

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Hi All -

Thanks for the recommendations.

 

RE: the Volkyls - a mistype on my part - should have been the Mantra and Bridge.  Two that have been thrown my way in casual discussions.

 

RE: Blizzards: a local shop at Stratton that I trust had suggested the Bonafides.  Jonathan Ellsworth over at Blister Gear had said there were options that performed better in powder - his vote in the 100mm range would be the DPS Wailer 99 or one of the Rossi's (either the S3's or Scimitar) - but they are a ski with an incredibly strong following and I'm sure the width alone will have enough powder chop for my needs - they are on the short list.



In regards to the Völkls - that makes more sense. What I will tell you, though, is that I have a very similar build to you - 5'9" and 160 - and I have the Mantras. I LOVED my Mantras. LOVED them. And then I skied the BWs. I found that a slightly softer ski with less metal suited my build a bit better and made the ends of my ski days much more enjoyable. I can't speak to the Bridges - they may fit this bill as well.

 

Also, you are right that there are skis that perform better in powder. But, do you want a powder ski or a mostly all-mountain ski that will work for you in powder? If that's the case, the Bones, Mantras, and a number of others will work. I will say, the DPSes are amazing and, if you can afford them, go for it. I believe I skied the 99s while at Vail on a hard snow day at the Gathering last year. They performed well on hardpack and, I believe, would also fit what you say you're looking for. Just my .02.

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Also, you are right that there are skis that perform better in powder. But, do you want a powder ski or a mostly all-mountain ski that will work for you in powder? If that's the case, the Bones, Mantras, and a number of others will work. I will say, the DPSes are amazing and, if you can afford them, go for it. I believe I skied the 99s while at Vail on a hard snow day at the Gathering last year. They performed well on hardpack and, I believe, would also fit what you say you're looking for. Just my .02.


Probably the later.  I anticipate pulling these out for east coast days from 6-12" (above which we rarely see out here) and then for trips out west where having the carver is just too narrow of an option for the kind of conditions you experience.  So yeah, competency in powder, but I don't need to go nuts with something 110> mm under foot.

 

You aren't the first person to sing the praises of the DSP's to me.  I had a back and forth email exchange with Jonathan Ellsworth from the Blister Gear website and he also said that the Wailer 99 would be a choice I would not regret (he also said I'd love the Wailer 112, but that is probably a bit to far towards the powder spectrum than what I'm looking for).

 

It isn't necessarily affording them that's the issue - it is the principal of owning a $1200 ski that just won't be seeing all that many days - and there is a really slim chance of me finding a demo pair in Vermont (mental note to call the one shops at Okemo that I know sells them to see if they might take my name to buy the demo) - compared to something like a Rossi S3, Bonafide or Mantra that I'll be able to find this summer for marginally more than I'd pay for a fancy pair of basketball sneakers.


Edited by vigga - 2/3/12 at 8:54am
post #10 of 11

I just tried to get my husband to pull the trigger on a set of BEAUTIFUL 112s. Being the financially competent man that he is, his response was, "It wouldn't be the responsible thing to do right now." I am still mourning the loss of a set of skis that wouldn't even have been mine (I really just wanted them in my house so I could stare at them longingly).

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I just tried to get my husband to pull the trigger on a set of BEAUTIFUL 112s. Being the financially competent man that he is, his response was, "It wouldn't be the responsible thing to do right now." I am still mourning the loss of a set of skis that wouldn't even have been mine (I really just wanted them in my house so I could stare at them longingly).


People really love the DPS line - especially the 112's - but they aren't cheap.  I've never actually seen them in person - they aren't all that common in Southern Vermont (a plus in my book actually)

I spoke on the phone and emailed back and forth with Mike Cannon from DPS.  The new 99's are really right in the wheel house of what I'm looking for - a terrific all mountain ski with great powder chops.  If I was as aggressive and competent a skier as I was 5 years ago, I'd be all over 112's, but I just don't hit the kind of terrain anymore that those ski's really accelerate at, even during trips to the west.

 

I just keep coming back to the fact that for literally $300 I can find a pair of barely used demo Rossi's or Volkl's this winter that'll be perfectly adequate for what I'm looking do.

 

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