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Are conditions in your area more dangerous than usual?

post #1 of 11
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Seems like the funked up season is creating some higher than normal hazards in a lot of areas.


In my neck of the woods - central/upstate NY, we've had hardly any natural snow, warm temps that are setting records (55 degrees yesterday, almost the same today), and bucket loads of rain.  We've consistently had a few cold days followed by warm water and rain, then back to a few cold days. So we have lots of ice - real glare ice plus frozen hardback, with trails begin narrower than normal since it's all on melting manmade snow.


I heard several people were taken off the hill on sleds by patrol last weekend - both rec skiers and racers - and if things don't get better I'm sure it will continue. Seems like optimal conditions for some serious accidents.


This is a hella crappy year here. Long range forecasts are showing nothing in the way of snowfall. If the current conditions persist we could close in February, which is completely shocking. 

post #2 of 11

The weak snowpack in the Wasatch of Utah is the worst I have seen in the 11 years that I have been here.  1 avalanche death last week, with a few close calls & partial burials.  I think the number would be even higher in the backcountry, but the avalanche forecasters have done a good job of getting the word out about the danger. 


The season started out slow as far as total snowfall, but coverage in the resorts is fine now with good skiing most everywhere.  Still only about 60% of normal for the season.



post #3 of 11

I don't have anything other than anecdotal evidence, but it does seem that the poor snow conditions are causing problems across the country, even here in the Midwest/Mid-Atlantic. I posted about this earlier, but we just had a death at 7 Springs due to someone skiing in the trees and hitting his head on the rock. There is no coverage except on the runs where there is man-made snow, so people are confused as to how this man ended up in the "woods." Seems he was skiing at a high speed and may have lost control, subsequently hitting his head on a rock. So, who's to say if this was due to conditions or not, but deaths at our local bump are rare, and it seems to fit with the other tragic casualties of this not-so-great season.

post #4 of 11

It's interesting that Billyymc's synopsis of conditions in NY sound exactly like our conditions in So. Oregon with the exception of us not having man-made snow.  Rain injected glare ice/snow with rocks aplenty.  Our only big snowfalls have been followed by mass rains.  I'm not aware of any huge increase in accidents, but the increase in hazards are obvious.  

post #5 of 11

My part of Colorado is way more dangerous this year then last year. There has been a couple deaths caused by small slides and even a couple inbounds.

post #6 of 11

Conditions are outstanding here. Great coverage.

post #7 of 11

Conditions are average to good in Washington / BC.  Up until two weeks ago we had very thin cover, but we've had a large amount of snow recently.  All the holes and creeks are filled in, and the shrubs are covered.  My ski hill has a 94" base, which is about average.



post #8 of 11

Yes. I wasn't going to get personal, but -- my brother and my dad have both been affected, in different ways. My brother has been an avalanche pro for years and years, and never been caught or even close. He's very careful. Last week he was skiing with a friend in an area that they felt was safe, and it was, except there was one little drainage they needed to ski to exit, literally two turns and out, that was a bit worrisome. He ended up triggering something that not only dusted him but propagated 1400 feet up and over into the next drainage. He and his friend were able to avoid what slid, but barely. 


My dad fell almost a month ago (when conditions in CO were super hard), hit his head, didn't think anything of it. Ended up with a chronic subdural hematoma, and had to have holes drilled into his head last night. He is fine, all is back to normal, but his surgeon (who is a skier) said that it has been much much worse than usual for this sort of thing, and he even just quit skiing for a while this season because he'd seen so many injuries due to the hard snow. 


Now we do have snow, but it isn't bonding to anything, and since there was no snow early, they are opening runs that haven't seen any traffic, no skier compaction ... it's crazy. Just be aware.


Currently I'm in the airport on my way to Austria, where they've had tons of snow; someone will probably set something off on top of me-- don't things come in threes?? ;-) My mother must be thrilled.

post #9 of 11
Originally Posted by segbrown View Post

Currently I'm in the airport on my way to Austria, where they've had tons of snow;


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Originally Posted by DSloan View Post




Usually I get on a plane and leave conditions better than those where I'm headed, so I'm not apologizing this time. 

post #11 of 11

My tongue.gif just covers the gamut of reasons why I stick out my tongue (bite my thumb?) at you. It's not specific to leaving bad conditions for better ones, but let's go ahead and include that, too.

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