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post #31 of 53

I have been using custom footbeds for about 20 years now.  I get new ones every 2 boots which is about 8-10 years at about 25-30 days per year.  My first pair were the cork beds, I don't remember what the 2nd pair was and I just had new DFP heat moldable beds made for my Lange RX130's.  I used those as that is what we sell in the shop that I work at.  In my opinion custom footbeds are a must for any serious skier.  They help to keep your foot in a natural position allowing your feet relaxed instead of tensed.

 

Rick G

post #32 of 53
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Superfeet black, about 70 days on them so far.

 

What are you using now?  Have you moved to a different product?  I'm always interested when inventors do that, especially since in this case I spent a couple hundred bucks on InstaPrints a few years ago that were totally unskiable for me..


Instraprints off course. sorry to here ur footbeds were unskiable. Remember the tool (molding machine) is only goood as the monkey (the bootfitter) on the other end of the handel. Did you go back for an adjustment?

 

Jeffrey Rich C. Ped

www.usorthoticcenter.com
 

 

post #33 of 53
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I use rigid medical prescription orthotics, have also used various others. IMO all "custom" heat molded work about the same, OK if you don't need rigid support (and if you do, you already know it). Key is to get someone who understands how to mold it, gets that some arches require more than being unloaded to assume proper conformation. The unmolded, including those that supposedly remember your shape, are basically expensive drugstore inserts, would go with latter if you're strapped for cash. 


Ur right unmolded are useless the same goes for footbeds that are not posted (bottom side filled in and ground flat).

Jeffrey Rich C. Ped

www.usorthoticcenter.com


 

 

post #34 of 53
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I tried a number of footbeds back in the 80s and finally found a great footbed solution via my local podiatrist from Northwest Podiatric Laboratory. They are made from a thin plastic (maybe it is fiberglass or some composite) so they take up less room than stock or cork custom footbeds. I have had the covers replaced once every ten years but they are still going strong.


yes footbeds last a long time in ski boots due to the fact that there is almost not foot movement inside ski boots.

Jeffrey Rich C. Ped

www.usorthoticcenter.com


 

 

post #35 of 53
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Jack Raferty made my first superfeet corks in the early 80's.  I must of put over 1000 days on that pair.  Now I wear orthotics/footbeds in all my shoes and have tried most brands including yours.

 

Some cheapies only last a month, but I would say most average 100 days?



Jacks one of the best. wow 1000 days u got the record.... u should go back and get remolded by jack. a new pair would be more responsive.

Jeffrey Rich C. Ped

www.usorthoticcenter.com

 

post #36 of 53
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I have almost the same setup, but in the Raptor B3 RD with ZipFit GARA liners.
 

 


u guys are long lost sole mates.
 

 

post #37 of 53
Superfeet Full Kork made for me by CEM last February. Probably 30-40 days on them so far.

Full package from Solutions4Feet was Solly Impact 10CS + ZipFit WC + Superfeet Kork. = very happy customer :-)
post #38 of 53
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I used the Sole softec Response (medium cushion) footbeds.  My Full Tilt boots didn't come with footbeds.  (FT apparently assumes that most skiers who buy a decent boot will quickley get rid of the useless footbeds that most boots come with these days).  Since my ski shop was heat molding the Intuition liners that come with the Full Tilts, they first heat molded the footbeds.

 

I've used them for the 2009-10 season, about 20 days.  I missed last year with a broken leg.  I've used them about 15-16 days so far this year.  My bootfitter feels that if you're skiing 20-25 times a year, then Sole or Superfeet or a few others are  fine, more often than that an you probably want a true custom footbed.  So I'll probably be able to justify that soon.

 

I also have custom orthotics (made by a real, live podiatrist in 1986).  They're pretty durable; I still use them in my everyday shoes (no my feet haven't really changed since then).  I used to use them in my ski boots until I got the Full Tilts with the Sole footbeds.


a real live podiatrist as to a dead podiatrist... just jokin
 

 

post #39 of 53
My foot is freakishly wide, has a huge instep, and a high arch. Had been using a completely custom foot bed in my race boots for 3 seasons. Last winter when I got new boots my fitter made a new footbed. I never ended up using them just because there was no room. I've got a Tecnica Inferno and only use the liner, with nothing else in it. Honestly I hardly notice a difference with it not there.
post #40 of 53

I finally retired a set of Korks last year that were made in the late-80s, too.  I, too, got 1000+ days out of them.

 

Instaprints now...about 50 days so far!

post #41 of 53
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My foot is freakishly wide, has a huge instep, and a high arch. Had been using a completely custom foot bed in my race boots for 3 seasons. Last winter when I got new boots my fitter made a new footbed. I never ended up using them just because there was no room. I've got a Tecnica Inferno and only use the liner, with nothing else in it. Honestly I hardly notice a difference with it not there.

They could trim and grind the footbeds to work with ur new boots...tunes would be quicker.
Jeffrey Rich C.Ped.
www.usorthoticcenter.com
post #42 of 53

New boots (Progressor 120) have Conformable custom ski insoles.  10 days or so on them

post #43 of 53
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u guys are long lost sole mates.
 

 



Hehe - I get it.  wink.gifbiggrin.gif

post #44 of 53
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Instraprints off course. sorry to here ur footbeds were unskiable. Remember the tool (molding machine) is only goood as the monkey (the bootfitter) on the other end of the handel. Did you go back for an adjustment?

 

Ah; gotcha.  I wasn't sure by your phrasing if you'd retired them and moved to something else.

 

I went back multiple times, and each time he made them worse.  Eventually I gave up.  Anyway, wasn't looking to hijack your thread with my product experience.  I've since found an excellent fitter and am now set up quite well.

post #45 of 53

I have Surefoots that have been used in several pair of four buckles for a total of maybe 120 days and thinner DownUnders in my Full Tilts. The Surefoot is too thick to fit comfortably under my forefoot (causes cramping) in the Full Tilts. Surefoot was planed and posted by Greg in Vail. Greg's adjustments made more difference than Surefoot's $200 orthotic. I use Superfeet and other off the shelf brands for my street shoes.

I've also tried the Full Tilts with a stiff, recooked Intuition Pro liner but over a day's time it wrinkled up under my foot and made the soles of my feet hurt so I went back to the softer original equip model and the DownUnders.

post #46 of 53
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I have Surefoots that have been used in several pair of four buckles for a total of maybe 120 days and thinner DownUnders in my Full Tilts. The Surefoot is too thick to fit comfortably under my forefoot (causes cramping) in the Full Tilts. 


Surefoot will grind the footbed thinner and/or expand the boot shell to address any such issues.
post #47 of 53

I have very flat feet, and use footbeds in all shoes I wear.  Otherwise I get heel tendinitis very easily.  For the past 5-6 years I have been using Power Step Pinnacle footbeds in my ski boots, Nordica Speed Machine 10s.

 

Another brand I like is Moszkito.  You can order them with varying arch height and heel cup width.   

post #48 of 53

I think I got mine in Spring 2009 and have about 200 days on them

post #49 of 53

When I was in a very reputable boot fitting shop recently (who shall remain nameless), they looked at my footbeds and the following conversation ensued regarding my Instaprints:

 

BF:  "How long have you had these?"

 

Me:  "2 years"

 

BF:  "Really?  Who in the heck made them for you?  They're awful!"

 

Me:  "You did"

 

BF:  "Me??"

 

Me:  "Well, not you...but your shop.  Actually it was ******, sitting over there."  (I point to ******* who looks at me funny)

 

After a few trips to the back and a lot of whispering between BF and the shop manager, my Instaprints were recast and now that they actually support my foot and my arch, a lot of the other issues I've been dealing with are gone.

 

So I guess the moral of the story is it's more about the person making the footbeds than the actual beds themselves.  For the record, I really like ******** but it does make me extra cautious with trusting the bootfitter, since I truly believed I was dealing with one of the best in the country and put a lot of faith (and money) behind that belief on numerous occasions.

post #50 of 53

Brent Amsbury also did mine last season; I have over 100 days on them.  I ski in a Dalbello Krypton Rampage.

post #51 of 53

Mine were Instaprints made by Greg Hoffman. I had about 10 years on them and somewhere over 300 days. I had them 1 year too long but had a new pair made just recently.

post #52 of 53

I had some made by Surefoot in Aspen about 10 years ago, and then 2 years ago Jeff Bergeron in Breck did a little more work on them and Dave Patterson of Vail did some work on my shells.

post #53 of 53

I've got over 1400 days and still counting on some cork/red plastic ones made by Woodsy of Woodsy's Ski and Sports, no longer in business.

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