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Is sidewall planer needed for cap style skis?

post #1 of 10
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Is it appropriate to use a sidewall planer on skis like these (I think this is called "cap" style construction?)  [forgive the rust eek.gif]

 

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Or do you only use it on skis with the sandwich-type of construction / metal top sheet, like this....

 

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post #2 of 10

Plastic cap - yes.

 

Metal cap - you probably want to use a file in a suitably adjusted guide instead.

post #3 of 10

Really?  I would never use my skyver on a cap ski - at least none of the cap skis that have ever crossed my bench.

post #4 of 10

I use a sidewall planer with a plastic cap.

post #5 of 10

I didn't see all that many cap skis (thanks god!) but for example for Atomic race skis, I use it regularly. There's no other way, even though things look different and even though someone might think you can't/shouldn't use it there. But if you want to have enough place to work normally on edge, there's no other way.

post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post

Really?  I would never use my skyver on a cap ski - at least none of the cap skis that have ever crossed my bench.



<shrug> your call.    Mine has worked just fine on everything from Elan MBXs and Rossi DV6s to 9'18s to C9s  to Sugar Daddies to Dynastar hybrid-cap designs.

 

With Volants or Atomic Alu caps or Dynamic Mg-caps  - 5 degree guide and a bastard file.

 

 

Some plastic-cap Atomics have a hard, almost crystalline plastic next to the cap that comes away as chips instead of long curly ribbons.   It's just different, not a problem if you have a steady hand.

 

 

post #7 of 10

I guess I should clarify - what would be the point on a cap ski?  Every cap ski I've ever had cross my bench already had the sidewalls located far off the edges.  I would even hesitate to cut into the cap for fear of jeopardizing the structural integrity of that construction.  Much of the strength of that ski comes from the cap.  With a sidewall construction we're only cutting back the "flashing" that's above the edge.

post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post

I guess I should clarify - what would be the point on a cap ski?  Every cap ski I've ever had cross my bench already had the sidewalls located far off the edges.  I would even hesitate to cut into the cap for fear of jeopardizing the structural integrity of that construction.  Much of the strength of that ski comes from the cap.  With a sidewall construction we're only cutting back the "flashing" that's above the edge.


You're cutting exactly the same "flashing" on a cap ski.  

 

I was going to draw some diagrams and stuff, but I really don't have the time and I see racewax.com have already done the work for me:

 

http://www.racewax.com/category/tuning-tips.sidewall-cutting/

 

 

 

post #9 of 10

OK - I guess on some cap skis it would be necessary to remove the flashing just like on a traditional sidewall construction ski.

 

The only caps I still have left in my quiver are the old Volant Machete series skis and there's nothing on those to remove - you wouldn't be able to cut back a stainless steel cap anyhow!

post #10 of 10

Use round blades on cap skis - they work better than the square blades. Never had to peel back edges on a steel cap - sounds difficult - I think that's why shops have machines to do tunes for you. The Volants I had were the fiberglass sidewall kind.

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