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Wax for hot and dry conditions?

post #1 of 12
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Had some challenging snow conditions few days ago.  Warm temp - mid 40s, but strong, dry wind, making the snow very abrasive.  The snow was a mixture of man-made and about an inch of natural dusting.

 

Maplus Purple RB, which is my universal wax, felt like a sandpaper.  Usually, I'm the first one to glide off the chair lift.. That day I was the last one.  Every single time.

 

So what would you choose for these conditions?

post #2 of 12

Holmenkol Beta

post #3 of 12
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Originally Posted by Denny1969 View Post

Holmenkol Beta


Based on experience or specs?  Holmenkol Beta specs say -4C to -14C, I was at about +5C air temp, snow had to be pretty close to 0.

 

post #4 of 12
If the snow is abrasive you need a harder wax.
post #5 of 12

If you have a super-hard LF wax like Swix LF4 or LF3 in your box, you can add that to your Maplus.  

 

Yes, I speak from experience -  scrape and brush well!

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Originally Posted by incognito View Post  Usually, I'm the first one to glide off the chair lift.. That day I was the last one.  Every single time. So what would you choose for these conditions?


Not being wise: what the guys that beat you off the lift had on may be a good place to start looking. If you don't have access to this info, Cantunamunch (as is often the case) has the right concept. On abrasive snow you wax a lot harder than the charts call for. Japan, with a lot of salt because of the monsoon snow, it a classic case. I, too, speak from experience.

 

post #7 of 12

I too had this experience a few days ago, about a 1/2 inch of new abrasive dusting. I skied to the bottom of the lift and removed both skis and used my leather glove to buff the heck out of them. This seemed to help. The funny thing I experienced also was my skis ran fast on the recently groomed but slowed on the new dusting. I'd agree on using a harder wax, even outside the current temp. range.

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Originally Posted by incognito View Post

Had some challenging snow conditions few days ago.  Warm temp - mid 40s, but strong, dry wind, making the snow very abrasive.  The snow was a mixture of man-made and about an inch of natural dusting.

 

Maplus Purple RB, which is my universal wax, felt like a sandpaper.  Usually, I'm the first one to glide off the chair lift.. That day I was the last one.  Every single time.

 

So what would you choose for these conditions?



 

post #8 of 12
When in doubt use a hard wax.
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by incognito View Post


Based on experience or specs?  Holmenkol Beta specs say -4C to -14C, I was at about +5C air temp, snow had to be pretty close to 0.

 



Based on experience.  The wax has a broader temperature spectrum than listed.  It is also fairly durable.  We have had similar conditions here in California over the past few weeks.  It has been working very well.

 

Dennis

post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

I'll definitely try a harder wax, although Maplus RB Medium is not soft by any means.  I have some Maplus Cold/Hard to try.

 

I usually scrape and brush beyond rec skiing needs (my winter therapy), so I doubt that's the issue.

 

Will have to check the LF3 or LF4.

 

 

 

 

post #11 of 12

I like my Holmenkol Molybdenum Additiv for that sort of thing.

post #12 of 12

I've been using a swix fluoro (not much fluoro) moly base prep wax as a training wax which is in Swix's 7 hardness. I haven't encountered the conditions you mentioned but it has been pretty good in all that I have seen.

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