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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Quick question about gear for my situation...

 

I'm 53 and I have started skiing again (after 15 years off) and plan to ski around 20 days a year.  I weigh in at about 185, I'm 5'6", and was an aggressive skier when I last skied.  I liked fast skiing and skied longer skis (last pair elan 204 r3c).  I recently rented some Volkls and really liked them.  They were 156cm long and I though I would need something longer but was really surprised by their performance and really liked controlling the tip pressure from the top of the boot.  Anyway, to make a long story short, I plan to get some good used gear and I'm looking for some recommendations based on how and where I want to ski.  I live in Utah and can ski the usual suspects around the Salt Lake valley. 

 

I would like a quicker turning ski that's stable at moderate speeds and that will ski some crud, bumps and occasional powder...I like skiing groomers and steeper crud...  I guess one ski that will do it all!

 

I don't really want to buy new at my age (for the same reason I don't buy green bananas), so I'll be trying to find some good boards a couple of years old. I've got some Nordica W8's that are still in good shape that I'll still be using.  

 

Any recommendations?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Ed

 

post #2 of 14

58, just went back after 20 yrs off 5'11", 195lbs.  Love my (used) K2 Xplorers in 184 cm, 84mm under foot.  I would just say, wide and a little long are working for me on groomers and Mt Hood 'powder'.  I'm back on the diamonds after less than a full season.  System mounted bindings make buying used an excellent option.  Lotta crazy skis on craigslist, but definitely a few keepers at bargain prices.  Google will take you to reviews of even 4 or 5 year old skis.

 

Go for it!

post #3 of 14

roflmao.gifYou expecting to drop dead at any second?  I'll be 68 this year and bought a new pair of skis at the beginning of last season and will be buying another pair this season, at least if we get more snow.  The skis I'm fairly sure I want haven't been around long enough to find used ones.  Welcome to Epic.  I highly recommend that at the very least you take your boots to a good boot fitter and make sure they actually fit, that the liners aren't completely packed out and that the shells aren't likely to asplode while you're ripping down some groomer.  Go to the "Ask the Boot Guys" forum and read the wikis about fitting and terminology.  Then check the "Who's Who" to see who's near SLC.  Brent Amsbury in Park City is excellent and the fitter I use, even though I'm in Montana.  I know there are a couple of other fitters around SLC but just don't know their names.  Good luck and have fun.

post #4 of 14

 

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I don't really want to buy new at my age (for the same reason I don't buy green bananas)

 

Let's see, 12 years until retirement x 20 days per year plus another 10 years x 75 days per year. Figure 1,000 days in all, I'd go with new. biggrin.gif

post #5 of 14

Besides, are you saving money for your kids to inherit? Let them make their own way.

 

On this forum, 53 doesn't qualify as "older".

post #6 of 14

I would get new.  You aren't getting any younger, so go splurge on gear.  It's fun.

 

With the lack of early season snow, many shops are holding to more gear than they want to for this time of year.  You may see some discounted prices in what some call "March pricing" right now in the tail end of January.  You may even find some previous year models, too.

 

Mtcyclist brought up a good point about boots.  You may want to get them checked out in regards to fit.  If you must use them, make sure that the boot soles aren't worn down.  If they are showing premature wear, you should replace the soles.  You can get replacement Nordica boot soles through the Nordica website.

 

Don't be afraid to longer on the skis.  At 185 pounds, you have the size to bend something longer perhaps around 170ish.  If you had the skis to ski a 204 R3C (fun ski by the way. I still have a pair), you should not have a problem skiing a 170ish modern ski.

 

As for suggestions, you can find some of last year's Volkl AC30 or Dynastar Contact Crosses skis floating around at very good prices.

 

Dennis

post #7 of 14

Check ebay you can get some very good deals if you are patient (just make sure you look at the sellers reviews.) There are a pair of elan apex's 168 on there right now w/ bindings for 329.00- I saw a few ac 30's go for in the 200s. I also saw a brand new pair of volkl Kendo's 2011/12 with demo marker griffons go for $510 the other day. Just be patient and don't get sucked into a bidding war

post #8 of 14

Ebay can be a good source as long as you know what you want and what's being offered.  Denny1969 is right about the ski length.  I'm only 5'8", 150 pounds and I can easily handle 170cm Nordica Steadfasts or Line Prophet 90s.

post #9 of 14

Realskiers web site, subscription reviews (about 20 bucks), reviews go back a few years.  You will save your money when you buy a ski a couple of years old that meets your requirements.  I suggest about 175 cm, 15 ish m turn radius.

post #10 of 14
love what Mtcyclist said...there'll be great used skis in the $350 $500 range with bindings from all the rental shops- Sportsden, Lifthaus,Coles, Jans, starting in April...Volkl kendo fits the bill, and I've read great things here about Nordicas Firearrows... You can by Salomon Z12 bindings, a good, light utility binding as long as you're not racing or hucking cliffs for about $150 online... In fact, EVO.com has a clearance on P-12s for under $100...

The local shops will be marking down skis soon- hell, look for a two year old (new) Volkl Bridge- it'll fit your requirements nicely and all the little dudes will dig the graphics. Dynastar has two nice skis, the Sultan 85& 94 that have been around a few years and have grown up cosmetics...check the SLC shops and see what they have on sale in the 175-177 range.

Pardon the sp and grammar... Typed on a child's I pad....
post #11 of 14
love what Mtcyclist said...there'll be great used skis in the $350 $500 range with bindings from all the rental shops- Sportsden, Lifthaus,Coles, Jans, starting in April...Volkl kendo fits the bill, and I've read great things here about Nordicas Firearrows... You can by Salomon Z12 bindings, a good, light utility binding as long as you're not racing or hucking cliffs for about $150 online... In fact, EVO.com has a clearance on P-12s for under $100...

The local shops will be marking down skis soon- hell, look for a two year old (new) Volkl Bridge- it'll fit your requirements nicely and all the little dudes will dig the graphics. Dynastar has two nice skis, the Sultan 85& 94 that have been around a few years and have grown up cosmetics...check the SLC shops and see what they have on sale in the 175-177 range.

Pardon the sp and grammar... Typed on a child's I pad....
post #12 of 14

55, ski 40-50 days a year and have 3 quivers, one at Whistler, one in SLC, and a least coast group (plus the ones that rotate through Florida on their way to new homes).

 

Buy some skis for gawd sakes. Have some fun. Skiing NEVER gets old, and you can continue to push yourself to bigger and better things all the time.

 

My daily driver is Atomic Access, and I'd say for someone living in Utah that's a good all around ski for what you say you want to do, but everyone likes something different so go demo. At Deer Valley there's a free Rossi demo hut near the Empire Canyon side if you end up there, and most other places put  your dmo cost towards purchase. There's going to be some GREAT deals coming up after this lousy season, so put yourself in a position to take advantage.

post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 

Wow.. thanks for all the info!  I have been skiing my Elans for the past couple of weeks.  Although I can't make the bombers all day long, I was surprised my muscle memory was still remembering what to do for the 12-15 runs I can get in.  I like the suggestion concerning the RC30 or the Dynastars.  I read up on both and they both seem to fit the bill, and, I do plan to ski somewhere between 163 to 170.  My boots feel great but I'll keep a close eye on them... my feet are short and wide (25.5) so I've never see too much buckle-over and that hasn't changed much since I got the boots.  Any suggestions concerning what's a wide boot now-a-days?  I'll wander over to the boot forum and see if I can ascertain that information. 

 

Again, thanks for the responses.

 

Ed

post #14 of 14

being in SLC, I wouldn;t go with anything less than 88 waist - I'd prolly settle into something mid 90's.

and depends on the ski...

a nice medium flex, round about 176 to 184 (again dependin...) is my sweet spot for All Mtn.

I'm not a huge fan of heavy sidecut - prefer a radius of 20 to 28m without a seriously pinched tail. TwinTips definitely OK in the 180's.

I have a pr of Nordica Pro Burners in 178 - great ski, but very hyperactive - requires way too much attention from me.

If I ski them hard all day, I'm just frazzled by day end. I think they're goin on the auction block.

On the flip side, my Fischer Cold Heats in 176 are just as nice but a lot less 'nervous'.

I'm 63, 5' 10"+, 165, a few season on the snow, re-entered old pharte some 3 seasons back.

 

There's some really nice used stuff on the market these days, now that everyone HAS to go to early rise/rocker.

I just bought some mint condition K2 Apache Outlaws in 181 with the Marker System Bindings. Skied them all weekend.

They rock. Not a high energy ski, but never found them behind the curve on tight turns on steep.

They haul freight and blast thru windset crust. not stiff. certainly were very nice in the 4-5 fresh we had on Sunday.

pretty sweet deal for 100 somolians with the binders...

 

boots - worth spending the dosh on that - if necessary.

I have been 2nd guessing my boot selection for a few months. Not because they aren't skiin nice, or fitting well.

I'm just not used to having boots that I put on at 8:20 am and ski all day without one adjustment and be that comfortable...

something must be wrong... must be too big... crazy!

needed a little work to get that way - but a lot less trauma than all my old stiefel.

 

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